A BOLD player is considered a dangerous player at casinos and sportbooks.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on December 19, 2019, 07:42:31 PM

Whats the difference between a high-roller and a Bold player? Isn't it that both are wagering huge amount of money in one seating? I have seen in casinos that once they noticed a new face inside their casino and wagering huge amount of money, they often offer services like free ride home or maybe a hotel room after they play but, they are watching closely how he play and his bets.

Nothing difference. They both wagered huge amount of money, both were high risk taker. The guy OP was referring to sure was a lucky player. He knows well how the game moves and manage to gain profits fast. We should admit that high bank roll has a higher chance to gain higher profits, too. I've seen bold players in some gambling site who instantly won huge amount of money, the point here is that they can afford to lose the amount they are betting.

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Whats the difference between a high-roller and a Bold player? Isn't it that both are wagering huge amount of money in one seating? I have seen in casinos that once they noticed a new face inside their casino and wagering huge amount of money, they often offer services like free ride home or maybe a hotel room after they play but, they are watching closely how he play and his bets.

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Yet they post this in their own ANN thread

Quote from: acarli on December 12, 2019, 07:37:39 PM

The next 2 players who contact me, will get 25% on any previous losses this month in the form of a bonus. This is for both sports and casino. Any takers?

So they know people will be people and want to continue going back trying to get back the amount they just lost.
This is how the casinos, sportsbooks and the whole gambling industry gets you to ruin you and your livelyhood.
Best to not get taken in with these promotions and promises for loss back crap.
Because they know very well they are the only ones who will win in the long run. Angry

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Quote from: Ucy on December 19, 2019, 05:50:37 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 18, 2019, 06:51:36 PM

And on the casino side being an admin, you shouldn't be nervous if you have found a player like that on your website.

As long as the "dangerous player" isn't a hacker or does not exploit the casino's vulnerability lol.
^This could be some of the things the casinos are worried about. This is probably why they put in some checks to investigate some extraordinary wins before the winners are allowed to withdraw their wins

the whole story i think that is pretty normal , until there is a repeating action over and over again like making big one bet, won it and leave then repeat. that could be something , the meaning of -dangerous- player itself could be interpreted as someone who trying to exploit their casino and it is worth to check.

if he did not make any losses during that period repeatedly , that what makes any casino owner worry.
also pointing about the instant cashout , it has been a risk taking for the casino owner, they do know the consequences about that right?

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Well, I often see people with a Bold personality and I think they could be dangerous because they are the ones that often can perform a task that has a risk and pretty much doesn't have any sign of fear in them, this kind of people they surely know what they are doing and pretty much have confidence in their eyes that they can surely win or surely have the ego to sometimes intimidating their opponent sometimes, because of their Bold personality, Well, I think they can surely use it in live poker matches.

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Quote from: Ucy on December 19, 2019, 05:50:37 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 18, 2019, 06:51:36 PM

And on the casino side being an admin, you shouldn't be nervous if you have found a player like that on your website.

As long as the "dangerous player" isn't a hacker or does not exploit the casino's vulnerability lol.
^This could be some of the things the casinos are worried about. This is probably why they put in some checks to investigate some extraordinary wins before the winners are allowed to withdraw their wins

This kind of players ho can ambushed the house and runaway so quickly are the type of players house owners are avoiding, the system will detect
the behavior of this player and deeply checked if there's no illegal things that's happening from the account. This so called dangerous player is really wise
cashing out the money that he had won not to allow greed to flow and let him lose everything back.

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Quote from: Ucy on December 19, 2019, 05:50:37 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 18, 2019, 06:51:36 PM

And on the casino side being an admin, you shouldn't be nervous if you have found a player like that on your website.

As long as the "dangerous player" isn't a hacker or does not exploit the casino's vulnerability lol.
^This could be some of the things the casinos are worried about. This is probably why they put in some checks to investigate some extraordinary wins before the winners are allowed to withdraw their wins

Yes, that could be the other meaning of being dangerous but base on the explanation he has given. It's more about how open that gambler of taking more risk and he found it to be threatening on their side which I think isn't really.

But as long as the wins didn't go through a shady process, they should grant it automatically. He probably just found a fearless guy that wouldn't stop until taking a decent profit whether it will take a lot of losses. IMHO, there's no need to be scared of that kind of gambler if he's playing fair.

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Quote from: sunsilk on December 18, 2019, 06:51:36 PM

And on the casino side being an admin, you shouldn't be nervous if you have found a player like that on your website.

As long as the "dangerous player" isn't a hacker or does not exploit the casino's vulnerability lol.
^This could be some of the things the casinos are worried about. This is probably why they put in some checks to investigate some extraordinary wins before the winners are allowed to withdraw their wins

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I got the point of the story. You should be fearless in order to win big like those HR player but the fact is only those who have decent amount could act like that. As for the admin, you shouldn't be afraid. You should be happy instead to have such player. Meaning they are trusting your site to bet such amounts but if you will think that's kinda small winning though compared on other sites.

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That's not considered fun playing when you invested huge amount of money, and for veterans player they always make sure that they're getting the most secured bet. These people stayed anonymous and exactly they're playing the type of gambling which they've mastered already. Being dangerous player, I don't think it's effective because in casino whether it's a crypto or fiat gambling, the system was presetted by admins for those who they wanted to win on that machine.

System was presseted by admins? So you are likely saying they are cheating because they can chose on who they wanted to win. LOL. I guess you don't know how gambling works.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on December 14, 2019, 11:47:38 PM

There is something interesting to see about casino live blackjack gambling, they complain a lot in betting and they say something about live blackjack is a scam.

Netent common live blackjack...scam?

I had crossed my mind how many days passed I wanted to place myself as a participant in live blackjack casino, after seeing this my mind changed and I also followed the chat on Netent common live blackjack...scam? My suspicions are getting stronger, I cancel it.

There is nothing scam in Live Blackjack, can't swear on others but I can say that evolution's live blackjack is 100% fair.
At first they have huge studios and thousands of employees, people shuffle cards in live and you see the procedure and it's done the way it's shown, no one is there card magics master and they can't even hire such people because you may find 1-2 person but not thousands with such talent. They don't even need that because live blackjack is played with eight standard 52-card decks and shuffled cards are cut in middle (half played, half - left). Even in card counters room there are cameras to make sure that cards are put provably fair in box for card change procedure that happens once a day and machine counts cards to make sure there are all cards there and there are cameras everywhere, you just can't fake it.
And Casino always has advantage because players act on their hand before the dealer acts on her hand.

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It's a good read actually and thank you for sharing that.

That kind of gambler made up his mind and really has the intention to win no matter what happen. And on the casino side being an admin, you shouldn't be nervous if you have found a player like that on your website.

It means that they are looking on you as trustworthy and basically has the assurance to pay the right amount if ever he wins. You should be prepared to face every kind of gambler no matter how much they gamble and how huge the risk they take.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 18, 2019, 09:15:10 AM

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CAUTION: I am not telling you to do this. I wanted to share an inside perspective on what Betbit.com considers a "dangerous" player and why.

As many know I represent Betbit.com. Recently we have a fearless player from this forum that logs in and wins 200mBTC on a 100mBTC deposit in less than 15 minutes on many occasions. The reason why I am posting is to congratulate him (will not be named) and tell the community a little secret about what brands consider dangerous players.

The players who make admins nervous are those who bet large amounts in short periods of time. It's actually more specific than that. Here's a real-world example that is recent. A player has recently deposited 100mBTC. He plays classic live dealer blackjack (Shameless link insert ). He originally plays with 25mBTC per hand. He doubles down on subsequent bets. First 25, then 50, then 100. He can go higher, but he withdrawals after around 200mBTC.

Bitcoin casinos can get in trouble because the deposits and withdrawals are fast without interference from a human cashier. instant. These players come like Barracudas sttacking prey and leaving quickly having feasted.

Let's go over real quickly why. In small data-sets, there is more statistical variance. More opportunity to go against the theoretic odds. In classic blackjack, playing Basic Strategy, the odds are about 99.4%. The more hands you play, the closer you are going to get to 99.4%. This player defies the odds of small sample sizes.

Don't get me wrong. The player can and does lose on occasion. You can lose everything really fast as well.

We can consider this kind of player as a veteran who has played hundreds of times before and have established a calculated method of betting in this manner, those who play for fun I doubt will do that, but whoever he is I'm pretty sure he is a certified gambler who knows his game very well.

That's not considered fun playing when you invested huge amount of money, and for veterans player they always make sure that they're getting the most secured bet. These people stayed anonymous and exactly they're playing the type of gambling which they've mastered already. Being dangerous player, I don't think it's effective because in casino whether it's a crypto or fiat gambling, the system was presetted by admins for those who they wanted to win on that machine.

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I think the most important thing is that he withdraws after he makes a certain amount. I would think a decent% of gamblers who play that risky would just keep going. I'm sure for casinos or books with large bankrolls this shouldn't be a worry because if he comes back and does these risky sessions he is still playing more hands at a lesser rate of winning.

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So it's more like casinos owners expect the player to lose.
This sum up the simple fact that some casinos owners don't want players cashing out.
The player might be well talented and mastered his game well before playing.
Moreover, I think before conclusion is given, the player should try planning two to three games at a stretch and see if he wins.
That day he won might be one of his lucky days.

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Well I would assume so considering long term the casino would always win, so players would try to get up in the short term. Like a player going in a casino and betting $10k on one roulette spin and leaving. Instead of a player coming in with $10k and doing $100 bets.

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If the person tends to continuously win over occasions even during a higher multiple bet, then the problem should be with the code of the gambling website or probably the gambler should have a favorable luck always. Experienced gamblers tend to lose money during multiple and repeated bets and the losing of huge bets always favors the gambling company. On the other hand, if the gambler invests his complete winnings in the gambling game regularly after a winning streak there are higher chances at one point of time the bets will favor the company and subsequently the gambler loses all his money.

Some of them tend to be satisfied with what they have won and would leave with that minimal amount before they lose further in future games. I am always against of investing huge winning bets again in the gambling, rather I would suggest to invest what I can afford to lose and have the rest withdrawn over time. At the same time, winning some games are based on strategies which might help the gambler as well in winning up their bets.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on December 15, 2019, 12:10:34 PM

If it is so, then what's stopping you or anybody else from doing the same thing? Playing high stakes for a round or 2 and walking away the moment you win?
Saying that bold players fare better than others or that they're dangerous to casinos is more of a joke or maybe an attempt to make people try this strategy.
You play slow you lose slow you play fast you lose fast, you cannot cheat math.

It is already a winning move if you can't get affected of the loss you have while playing in gambling sites, most of the time, who we can considered to be bold are the person that isn't learning at all, if you already win, then just be humble and keep your money. The moment you return to the gambling platform in a reason that you still want to incrrease your funds is one of the most common mistakes we do in our school.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 18, 2019, 09:15:10 AM

Quote from: acarli on December 14, 2019, 04:36:02 PM

CAUTION: I am not telling you to do this. I wanted to share an inside perspective on what Betbit.com considers a "dangerous" player and why.

As many know I represent Betbit.com. Recently we have a fearless player from this forum that logs in and wins 200mBTC on a 100mBTC deposit in less than 15 minutes on many occasions. The reason why I am posting is to congratulate him (will not be named) and tell the community a little secret about what brands consider dangerous players.

The players who make admins nervous are those who bet large amounts in short periods of time. It's actually more specific than that. Here's a real-world example that is recent. A player has recently deposited 100mBTC. He plays classic live dealer blackjack (Shameless link insert ). He originally plays with 25mBTC per hand. He doubles down on subsequent bets. First 25, then 50, then 100. He can go higher, but he withdrawals after around 200mBTC.

Bitcoin casinos can get in trouble because the deposits and withdrawals are fast without interference from a human cashier. instant. These players come like Barracudas sttacking prey and leaving quickly having feasted.

Let's go over real quickly why. In small data-sets, there is more statistical variance. More opportunity to go against the theoretic odds. In classic blackjack, playing Basic Strategy, the odds are about 99.4%. The more hands you play, the closer you are going to get to 99.4%. This player defies the odds of small sample sizes.

Don't get me wrong. The player can and does lose on occasion. You can lose everything really fast as well.

We can consider this kind of player as a veteran who has played hundreds of times before and have established a calculated method of betting in this manner, those who play for fun I doubt will do that, but whoever he is I'm pretty sure he is a certified gambler who knows his game very well.

Its sounds really interesting that someone know all the winning skills and has good command over gambling there are so many dangerous gamblers who are now expert. They are not harmfully dangerous but the only reason for calling them dangerous is that other people don’t get opportunity to earn so they are hard competitors.

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OP meant that if you are a fearless gambler, your chances of winning are higher as opposed to a person who do not take big risk in gambling. Although I somewhat agree that you should have appositive mode when you play gambling and should have belief in yourself that you will win but again sometimes the luck even do not help the brave too. It will also make you lose big if you take more risky moves.

Being bold doesn't guaranty you a win, you still have to take a chance, even if you take the game in a calculated way, the chances are still there that you are going to lose, but big bettors can always extend their bet until they reach the win that they want, one of the cases is the martingale method, where doubling your bet for every lost as long as you have funds or can add.

The issues with gambling are that this game is based on luck and is always or you can say usually manipulated by the house. No matter how much calculated you stay, you are always going to fear losses and risk never reduces no matter how you stay active and vigilant about your bets, you cannot control the results. All in all, gamble simply for fun and go with big bets once a week. You cannot control results but can control your game time and greed.

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These same people are sometimes just feeling lucky and trying out all their luck with the spare money they have. They can easily lose that money without hesitations nor regrets that's why they do it swift. They know what they came for, and when they got it, they leave, and that IMO is a rare gambler who has a strict discipline code which a huge portion of the gamblers are lacking.

On dice sites, this always happens though established platforms consider these players as welcome guests and not actually a dangerous entity.

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