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hero member
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December 12, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
#34
Wow...nice work there putting everything into so detail. I wonder how much did the winner actually paid for the bitcoin. I mean how low was that compared if they were to acquire from open market. I expect at least 10% lower
I don't think so. You just can get at that much Bitcoin on the open market, without raising the price.
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December 12, 2014, 09:14:56 AM
#33
Wow...nice work there putting everything into so detail. I wonder how much did the winner actually paid for the bitcoin. I mean how low was that compared if they were to acquire from open market. I expect at least 10% lower
legendary
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December 12, 2014, 08:35:17 AM
#32
Surprised Tim Draper didn't buy more considering his already scalable 25 million dollar "investment"

As far as we know, he could have had bids on the lot, but didn't bid higher than the winners.

Given that he won all the lots in the previous auction, he might have thought he outbid all the others by a large amount.
So most probably he lowered his bids and lost most blocks in the auction.
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December 11, 2014, 09:09:23 AM
#31
Surprised Tim Draper didn't buy more considering his already scalable 25 million dollar "investment"

As far as we know, he could have had bids on the lot, but didn't bid higher than the winners.
sr. member
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December 11, 2014, 07:35:18 AM
#30
Good thread Elvar, some very interesting information!

Surprised Tim Draper didn't buy more considering his already scalable 25 million dollar "investment"
legendary
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December 10, 2014, 07:20:42 AM
#29
So it appears that a Second Market syndicate was the one that got the 9 x 5000 and the one 3000 block.

They won 48000 of the bitcoins and Tim Draper got 2000.
http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-syndicate-bidders-real-winners-bitcoin-auction/

no idea or leak on what it was per BTC yet? (looked thru above thread maybe I missed it?)



it's not known...we still don't know the price Tim Draper paid back in July
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December 10, 2014, 06:53:27 AM
#28
So it appears that a Second Market syndicate was the one that got the 9 x 5000 and the one 3000 block.

They won 48000 of the bitcoins and Tim Draper got 2000.
http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-syndicate-bidders-real-winners-bitcoin-auction/

no idea or leak on what it was per BTC yet? (looked thru above thread maybe I missed it?)

hero member
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December 10, 2014, 06:45:37 AM
#27
And an interesting point there, there's somewhere around 75,000 BTC worth of unfulfilled want there.
legendary
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December 10, 2014, 06:36:07 AM
#26
So it appears that a Second Market syndicate was the one that got the 9 x 5000 and the one 3000 block.

They won 48000 of the bitcoins and Tim Draper got 2000.
http://www.coindesk.com/secondmarket-syndicate-bidders-real-winners-bitcoin-auction/
legendary
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December 09, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
#25
Thanks for the interesting analysis Elwar if the coins are going into Big wallets it means that whoever is stockpiling them will need them for one reason or other, aka bitcoin development.
legendary
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December 09, 2014, 12:02:47 PM
#24
Nice job Elwar! It is interesting to see what can be gleaned from these addresses.
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
#23
Let's start vanitygen for the top one... what say ? Wink

Yay , then good luck  Cheesy. However news for the other names of the auction winners ?

We don't know yet!

Any link showing the auction page?

Not available yet...

I found a few interesting articles :

US to auction 50k Bitcoins : http://www.cityam.com/1417682129/us-government-auctions-50000-bitcoins-seized-online-drugs-marketplace-silk-road

Tim Draper Wins Part of Second Silk Road Bitcoin Auction  : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-05/tim-draper-wins-part-of-second-silk-road-bitcoin-auction.html
http://www.cityam.com/1417872668/tim-draper-revealed-winner-second-us-bitcoin-auction


Latest Federal Bitcoin auction sees low enthusiasm : http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/12/07/latest-federal-bitcoin-auction-sees-low-enthusiasm

"Draper, who bid on behalf of Draper Associates, said in an e-mailed statement that he bid successfully for 2,000 bitcoins at yesterday’s tender. The auction was the second sale after the U.S. Marshals Service sold almost 30,000 bitcoins in June, which Draper won in its entirety. Draper didn’t disclose how much he paid for either winning bid."

FBI coins were suppose to bring the market to 200$ or lower according to bears, we have a price of 350$. Maybe we will get to 600$ or more when the FBI auctions news is old.
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December 09, 2014, 11:38:40 AM
#22
Nice details i tink i've seen some of these transactions go by on blockchain and couldnt help but wonder who was sending such large amounts at once and what they could  possibly be for if not for just money alone
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December 09, 2014, 11:35:23 AM
#21
He announced an intention to distribute 300 coin to each startup he's involved in.... so that might move again soon. Not sure if he has decided to go to 500 each from the way he split there, or that's just how he handles his coins.

Have you a link for this news ? I didn't read this thing.
http://www.coindesk.com/tim-draper-wins-2000-btc-second-bitcoin-auction/
http://www.coindesk.com/boost-vc-invest-additional-300-btc-tribe-5-bitcoin-startups/
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
#20
This is interesting to track over time, thanks for sharing
legendary
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December 09, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
#19
Let's start vanitygen for the top one... what say ? Wink

Yay , then good luck  Cheesy. However news for the other names of the auction winners ?

We don't know yet!

Any link showing the auction page?

Not available yet...
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
#18
Let's start vanitygen for the top one... what say ? Wink

Yay , then good luck  Cheesy. However news for the other names of the auction winners ?

We don't know yet!

Any link showing the auction page?
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
#17
nice analysis but,we won't be able to know who is behind that bitcoins unless they publicly announce it
sr. member
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December 09, 2014, 10:07:25 AM
#16
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7 of the 5000 were combined:
35,000 sent through this address then split up: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1CvBmeNZY7wgg5fyxfNd6vJzHN6EyhrHPs

It seems like most of the coin from this address were sent to this address:  https://blockchain.info/address/3LzDzKkatQRXuQ6UxTcWQLuwuhH5nt7TJc

3LZ received a total of 26,850 XBT on 12-08 from 1CV.  It has a total of 47,089 as of posting, meaning it already had 20,239.

Also, the 1CV account had alot of activity predating 12-08, dating back to an initial 3,000 XBT transaction in May 5 2013.

The current balance of 1CV would seem to make it the 21st largest single address according to this site:  http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top500

So it seems to me like a large chunk of the coin were purchased by a single whale / fund / company.
hero member
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December 09, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
#15
Thanks , but we will never know the names of the other auction winners, I would like to know it.

Bitcoin transaction are transparent so eventually if you are really interested you will know the names. just follow this addresses that was posted here.

Yes I know how the blockchain works, but as you told if they will not say : " I've bought this bitcoin in the fbi auction" we will never know their names.
This bitcoin will most likely end up in a big project eventually and than we can make an educated guess, who put them there. The question is, how long will that take to happen.

Maybe you're right , but I think they will use it only for speculate again.
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