Topic: A Cop just told me, "Freedom doesn't exist anymore." - page 2. (Read 2157 times)

Police in bad mood! Sometimes a policeman has just been upset by some criminals and want to find some ordinary guy to beat 

That's very weird. Basically asking you to spy and report on your neighbors. Has there been a lot of criminal activity in the area? Or any reason for him to ask that? Not that it justifies it but maybe there is some investigation going on in the area?


Did you read his post? That happened after 7:30. Not before 6am when it would be illegal.


Sure. Fuck freedom. Help cause the problems by bombing and robbing others, then give up liberties to stop them trying to get their lives together.

Are you sure about that ?
Some neighbor may have called the cops to complain without the policeman telling you about it.
Besides that, if there's a noise regulation, you can't blame a cop for enforcing it.

Now regarding freedom, you may have heard of thousands of African migrants coming to Europe. If those people were free, there would one thousand of them lining up your street, begging for food.

I don't get how people always get into these confrontations with police, they're all pretty nice. Well maybe, because I'm Canadian but still... when I got pulled over in New York, the officer was pretty chill. Where do you live?

OK.  I should give more back story since I see the folks are getting hostile against me.  Also keep in mind it is a week day and at no point was the time of day mentioned as a factor in the conversation.

I went outside shortly after 7:30.  I cleaned up some debris, trimmed my tree, cleaned up after my dog out back, put my trash can on the curb for the trash man, and then turned on my leaf blower for 5-10 minutes (second time I've ever used my leaf blower).  The interaction with the police officer was after 8:30 and then I immediately wanted to document somewhere what I had just heard (hence the hot headed thread).  I also live in the desert.  It is bright outside by 5am and by 10am it is too hot to be working outside (according to the news, I am not scared to be outside).  That is why the noise ordinance is so early here.  Hearing leaf blowers at 7am is not uncommon in my area, nor is it illegal.  While I don't especially like it, houses here are new and built with so much insulation you can barely hear it inside anyway.  The point of the post wasn't about my unhappy yard cleaning experience, it was that a cop told me to my face that freedom doesn't exist anymore and threatened me with jail if I use a leaf blower (within 5 minutes of the cop leaving, one of my neighbors started blowing off his property).  The cop urged me to install cameras with audio all around my property and to report any of my neighbors for suspicious behavior.  It was a conversation I wish I wasn't a part of.  My comment of, "I'm more of the freedom and privacy type" is what brought out his response.

Pretty crazy morning for just wanting to do a little yard work.

And others should have the freedom not to be woken up by some annoying ass buzzing first thing in the morning.

Whether we like it or not mutual consideration needs to enforced by someone or something otherwise the world would be a shower of shit. It's too densely populated to be any other way these days.

Your telling me a cop just walked up to you and said this without no official noise complaint from a neighbor or someone around you?



People who support police are not short sighted and ignorant. They are worried about their safety and want someone to protect them, their family, and their community from bad people. That being said, there is a correct way to have a police presence and an incorrect way, and unfortunately a lot of police departments are swaying towards the incorrect way (all with "good" intentions, but failing badly and jeopardizing freedom in the process). Politicians are a large part of the problem.

Your situation is a little hard to believe without a complaint from someone else though... unless there are details being left out, like did you forget to get dressed before you went out and started leaf blowing?    

"Hate the cops?  Next time you need help, call a crackhead"  

Of course the time of day had EVERYTHING to do with it. Use your blower at noon time and I'm positive NO-ONE will give you any flak for it.

I think the noise by-law is from 11pm til 8am in Toronto. If I was your neighbor I can guarantee you I wouldn't be happy with having to hear your blower at 7:30am. I wouldn't call the cops or anything, but I might mention to you that I wasn't happy waking up to your noise and ask you if you wouldn't mind doing it a bit later in the future. Personally, I think the noise by-law should be from 8pm til 10am.

At least if anything comes of this situation you found yourself in this morning its a good BCT thread.
 

This guy gets it right here..

Our cops are paid in the top 5% of the entire country... the waiting list is YEARS.. YEARS not months YEARS long.....  Pigs in my country are pampered beyond pampered and believe exactly this.

We are "civilians" aka dirt, peons, nothing.  People of no value or importance.

Sage Carlin on "Rights" - TLDR there's no such thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4

Perhaps.  Something tells me the users who have BTC tied up in my escrow services appreciate my choice not to cause trouble and risk my "freedom" which according to the police, doesn't exist anyway.

Here you've captured the problem with the american anti-government movement. Most americans have very [materially] comfortable lives, full of privileges we fear to lose. We refuse to risk anything, we refuse to make any sacrifice for the greater good. Even those of us who despise the state and the violence it employs won't sacrifice much of anything to better it.

Sacrifice. This is the difference between people like you and I and people like Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning. We are revealed as selfish cowards when held up to that standard.

The story doesn't sound convincing and the statement is not completely true. Freedom never existed in the first place, nor earlier and not now. When there's a Government, it automatically makes us all their bonded laborers who have no freedom. All Policemen are not that bad but 99% are and if they even finds you walking on the street, they threaten to arrest you and extort money. Unless one is powerful like a Lawyer or Minister or someone with a high authority, the person is just slaves.

At least that Policeman had the courage to say the truth. At least he did not try to hide this fact or shield like politicians do. We are actually living in a tied-up free environment. All the control is being done either by politicians or business tycoons.

Hence my post.  Police make and break laws on a daily basis.  I'd rather rant on an online forum than exercise my rights and end up in jail for doing so.  Your "rights" are the way it's supposed to be, not the way it is.

Translation:

"I know my rights, but I'm too afraid of government retribution to exercise them."

No judgement here friend, it's not at all unwise to fear the police these days. But what use are rights if we're all too cowardly to make use of them? Do we even truly have them at that point?

I know my rights.  I don't have any intention of fighting the police or reporting the incident though.  I know they have more important things they should be doing and I know it would only draw negative attention to me.  I'm simply sad at the state of the government and police in my country.  

Again, this was not a noise issue.  There was no noise complaint.

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