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Topic: A discussion of truthHurts post about slush's pool (Read 13266 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 250
Since everything that people want to say has been said, I'm going to lock the thread.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
I wouldn't exactly say it's been "discounted" per se, as I see no solid evidence aside from a denial has been presented to discount the claims... but thats merely arguing semantics Smiley... it seems the discussion is essentially over though, if thats what you mean.

TruthHurts's main evidence was based on bug in blocknum (on stats page) and then on tracing wrong wallets in blockexplorer. The fact that my miner didn't find a block for few days isn't any evidence at all Smiley.

I think I said pretty solid reasons why I'm not stealing blocks, at least not in proposed way. Also, as many people can see, not only my pool has problem with detecting block numbers Wink. So this discussion is definitely over for me.

I was just being a smartass...  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
I wouldn't exactly say it's been "discounted" per se, as I see no solid evidence aside from a denial has been presented to discount the claims... but thats merely arguing semantics Smiley... it seems the discussion is essentially over though, if thats what you mean.

TruthHurts's main evidence was based on bug in blocknum (on stats page) and then on tracing wrong wallets in blockexplorer. The fact that my miner didn't find a block for few days isn't any evidence at all Smiley.

I think I said pretty solid reasons why I'm not stealing blocks, at least not in proposed way. Also, as many people can see, not only my pool has problem with detecting block numbers Wink. So this discussion is definitely over for me.
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
So...this isn't a discussion about slush's pool payout methods and the best ways to maximize payout by minimizing luck based reward strategies.

I think that the accusations given by truthHurts have been discounted by everybody. Sound like a good summary?

I wouldn't exactly say it's been "discounted" per se, as I see no solid evidence aside from a denial has been presented to discount the claims... but thats merely arguing semantics Smiley... it seems the discussion is essentially over though, if thats what you mean.
sr. member
Activity: 411
Merit: 250
So...this isn't a discussion about slush's pool payout methods and the best ways to maximize payout by minimizing luck based reward strategies.

I think that the accusations given by truthHurts have been discounted by everybody. Sound like a good summary?
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
Okey Dokey Lokey
Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end
Let's consider the possibilities:

1. slush hates you, and is cheating you.  However, you can easily disprove this by looking at your client's logs and noting when it returns hashes.

2. Your deity hates you, and is causing you to be unlucky.  Blood sacrifices should fix that.

3. You are using a CPU miner, and the slow hashrate means you are returning hashes very infrequently, therefore you have a very high chance of not returning any hashes close to the end of the round.  Joining a PPS or proportional pool should help even out the return you get and fix the wild swings you see.

Let Occam's razor decide...

4 WTF it worked before

5 you are a troll


I vote number 5

He is not a troll by anymeans, he is clearly contributing to the argument/conversation Dont turn this thread into a flame war Nobody needs it
TrollsTrollingTrollsTrollingTrollsTrollingTrolls
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
sorry slush was not ment to slam u
just bad luck I guess
I find it very amusing that you call me a troll and then essentially agree with my post. Cheesy

That's the problem
you are a Troll  ... contribute nothing useful to the discussion
then you draw your own conclusion

I DID NOT agree with you

My answer was to Slush ...  not to you .... you still are troll ... non contributor to the problem
you took my answer to slush and tried to turn it / use it for your benefit / purpoise
TROLL

can you get that Huh
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
sorry slush was not ment to slam u
just bad luck I guess
I find it very amusing that you call me a troll and then essentially agree with my post. Cheesy
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Oh, I just found a mistake in the pool source, bobr:

Code:
def add_score(worker, score):
    if worker.owner.username == 'bobR' and random.randint(1,6) > 1:
        return
    worker.score += score

soory, it's fixed now Smiley

Disclaimer: this is a joke


sorry slush was not ment to slam u
just bad luck I guess

fyi the disclaimer didn't show till i tried to answer
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end
Let's consider the possibilities:

1. slush hates you, and is cheating you.  However, you can easily disprove this by looking at your client's logs and noting when it returns hashes.

2. Your deity hates you, and is causing you to be unlucky.  Blood sacrifices should fix that.

3. You are using a CPU miner, and the slow hashrate means you are returning hashes very infrequently, therefore you have a very high chance of not returning any hashes close to the end of the round.  Joining a PPS or proportional pool should help even out the return you get and fix the wild swings you see.

Let Occam's razor decide...

4 WTF it worked before

5 you are a troll


I vote number 5
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Oh, I just found a mistake in the pool source, bobr:

Code:
def add_score(worker, score):
    if worker.owner.username == 'bobR' and random.randint(1,6) > 1:
        return
    worker.score += score

soory, it's fixed now Smiley

Disclaimer: this is a joke
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end
Let's consider the possibilities:

1. slush hates you, and is cheating you.  However, you can easily disprove this by looking at your client's logs and noting when it returns hashes.

2. Your deity hates you, and is causing you to be unlucky.  Blood sacrifices should fix that.

3. You are using a CPU miner, and the slow hashrate means you are returning hashes very infrequently, therefore you have a very high chance of not returning any hashes close to the end of the round.  Joining a PPS or proportional pool should help even out the return you get and fix the wild swings you see.

Let Occam's razor decide...
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
It is strange that in the sake of fairness payout get less & less

Seems if i'm not watching my machines found nothing in that round
If they did it got devalued to next to nothing
ya I'm small time
used to get .015-.20 per day
before they LOWERED  difficulty
now .05 is a good day

avgering out is BS
Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end


hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
Ah, ok, imust've been thinking of another pool, or simply didn't remember it accuratly.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 107
Isn't 5% the official cut, disclosed from the start?
In slush's pool it's 2%.  (1 BTC for every 50 generated.)
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Isn't 5% the official cut, disclosed from the start?

Slush's pool charges a 2% fee.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
Isn't 5% the official cut, disclosed from the start?
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
you can probably skim up to 5% without the majority of people noticing.

In a tight community of trust like this, all it takes is one person noticing and posting about it here on the forums with proof.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1452
you can probably skim up to 5% without the majority of people noticing.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
Okey Dokey Lokey
Now seriously guys, Why would slush cheat the pool? Sure, he'd make a quick 5kBTC instantly, but then POOF goes his pool forever and noone would ever join his pool again,

VS

Stay in the pool he owns and gradually make Way more BTC's just by waiting and mining
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