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Banks have tended to be wary of supporting cryptos because they see them as potential competition, but as the popularity of cryptos grows, they will find ways to profit off of them. Also, I believe what will factor in the legal accommodation of cryptos is nations seeing other nations attract wealth due to crypto-friendly legislation. Similar to the cannabis industry, money has a way of building allies.
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In France, we're currently in the middle of a finance bill. It's now clear and decided that Banks/Insurers in France will be able to offer investments tied to cryptocurrencies funds. The new framework is ready and waiting for publication.
It won't target individuals (only if you have a $500k portfolio) but professional investors. Better than nothing, at least cryptos hit the banks here, in 2 years everyone will get access to it, who knows? Private equity investment funds (FPCIs) are also concerned


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This was not the primary objective of the Pact, but insurers will be able to offer products based on crypto-assets. They will be able to do so through specialized funds", confirms the LREM deputy and budget rapporteur, Joel Giraud. The new framework will be operational after the publication of the implementing decrees
https://www.boursorama.com/actualite-economique/actualites/du-bitcoin-dans-les-contrats-d-assurance-vie-une-possibilite-avec-la-loi-pacte-705eeccdd09f914ad3267c10a6409420


I declare today April 13, 2019, France the new crypto heaven, it's official!
investing in a cryptocurrency with a bank might be a good idea because we don't have to take care of complicated things like the required documents and others, with the bank that will help us as lay people who have little knowledge about cryptocurrency. hope this will be implemented in other country soon.
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All that Yellow Jackets protest is about more social money
But France GPD is near zero so that kind of high ROI pension funds can bring some more money to  people.Colonialism ended world is very competitive QE is not bringing any money to real economy so may bitcoin save us
If funds  will be able to manage investing well then there is no problem specially now when market is rebounding after bear time
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@Kakmakr
Not sure why they currently allow only professional investors and individuals with $500k but that's something that will be extended surely to everybody in the near future. As I said this investment product is the most popular in France. In the country, we invest more money in (~1,700 billion euros ) than our saving accounts (~200 billion €). So why not? The government also collect taxes from this product interests, when they will see all these millions coming, their eyes will be like a wet pussy.



I believed they only allow professional and individuals investors with $500,000 because they need serious and business mind people with good net worth which won't end up abuse the scheme. However, the possibility that they will extended it to everybody in the near future is not sure because we are talking about the governments and institutions here.

An institution such as?
I think the reason is that they have kept in mind the potential volatility that can be very high in the crypto market and that's what keeps them there. Especially since this type of product is highly regulated in the country.
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This is a great news now France is the new cryptocurrency heaven and this will give the public access to cryptocurrency from the Bank, the limit of $500k portfolio is a great deal and only few own such portfolio in crypto for now. But despite that this is another great move in the right direction coming from France.
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@Kakmakr
Not sure why they currently allow only professional investors and individuals with $500k but that's something that will be extended surely to everybody in the near future. As I said this investment product is the most popular in France. In the country, we invest more money in (~1,700 billion euros ) than our saving accounts (~200 billion €). So why not? The government also collect taxes from this product interests, when they will see all these millions coming, their eyes will be like a wet pussy.



I believed they only allow professional and individuals investors with $500,000 because they need serious and business mind people with good net worth which won't end up abuse the scheme. However, the possibility that they will extended it to everybody in the near future is not sure because we are talking about the governments and institutions here.
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i don't know whether to be happy about this news or scared about it. mainly because it says "crypto-assets" which sounds to me more like them wanting to enter the altcoin ICO shenanigans and fuel the terrible state that this market has been in for the past 2 years. it is true that there is a lot of money to be made from these scams but they are also enabling them to pull these things off. and the damage of them on the whole market has been dire.
I wouldn't be scared honestly since I doubt they would ever think of legalizing scams after the controversial ICO scams which have been plaguing this market in recent times.

I am happy that they decided to support the crypto ecosystem in some way at the end of the day.
I understand pooya concern because the statement does look skeptical and everything which involve the governments need to be treat with precautions but if you read the OP statement which seems to explain it all, they are actually planning a scheme or a body like the Bitcoin ETF but theirs is for new start up project with the minimum of $500,000 as I understand the OP message.
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@Kakmakr
Not sure why they currently allow only professional investors and individuals with $500k but that's something that will be extended surely to everybody in the near future. As I said this investment product is the most popular in France. In the country, we invest more money in (~1,700 billion euros ) than our saving accounts (~200 billion €). So why not? The government also collect taxes from this product interests, when they will see all these millions coming, their eyes will be like a wet pussy.

@Bitinity
Sorry, I didn't post any source since I couldn't find one in English from my RSS feed. I got the news from a discussion in the French board but I will edit the OP

@pooya87
No, there is no question of offering investment funds in ICOs or others. This financial product is one of the most popular in the country and guaranteed by the state. A banker is not crazy.  This will be done through professionally specialized funds.

@Haunebu
They didn't decide anything, it's a lucky outcome of this finance bill. We will restore the Gaule empire and use Bitcoin. Forget The Adventures of Asterix this is real life. Step by step, for the moment we are embedding ourselves in the financial system. After that, it will be politics, etc.... We're going to do like the francs Masson. lol


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This is great news for cryptocurrency the first time we see banks seeing cryptocurrency really a good investment for their customers. I think they should have done it sooner. Now that France has become a new paradise for cryptocurrency, hopefully there will be more paradises for cryptocurrency.
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That's good to hear that news. France will become a new country that supports cryptocurrency and finally, the banks will accepting cryptocurrency. I am sure that this will help the crypto world to grow bigger in the next future because if it's successful, then the other country will following France. I hope that soon, and they will realize about that and start to use cryptocurrency too. It's no problem if right now the crypto user comes from the larger amount account because soon, every people in France can use cryptocurrency without a problem.
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In France, we're currently in the middle of a finance bill. It's now clear and decided that Banks/Insurers in France will be able to offer investments tied to cryptocurrencies funds. The new framework is ready and waiting for publication.
It won't target individuals (only if you have a $500k portfolio) but professional investors. Better than nothing, at least cryptos hit the banks here, in 2 years everyone will get access to it, who knows? Private equity investment funds (FPCIs) are also concerned


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This was not the primary objective of the Pact, but insurers will be able to offer products based on crypto-assets. They will be able to do so through specialized funds", confirms the LREM deputy and budget rapporteur, Joel Giraud. The new framework will be operational after the publication of the implementing decrees


I declare today April 13, 2019, France the new crypto heaven, it's official!

Insurers will be able to offer products based on crypto-assets without capital limits
Wait for more EU countries to follow and we will have rock stable bitcoin price
It is nice to see because Macron was so much against crypto as i remember
Go Go Germany.Maybe Norwegian Mega Fund will make some investments in crypto
Link to news here https://messari.io/article/france-amends-insurance-code-to-allow-for-crypto-investments

viva le france vive la roi

this is MASSIVE validation for the entire asset class and HUGELY exciting for the professionalization of crypto asset management.
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That's a good there are so many private investors who have a huge amount of money and can't find a proper and practical tool to invest. These people use only banking system for their investments and would start considering to invest on crypto market via banks.
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All I know is that I know nothing.
some time ago i said that banks and other similar sectors will eventually start getting into this world and adopt bitcoin. well it is starting to happen slowly.
this first step is them entering only from an "investment" perspective but it won't be that long before we start seeing them opening up "bitcoin savings accounts" and lots of other things like bitcoin loans,...
they have no other choice if they want to stay alive.
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In France, we're currently in the middle of a finance bill. It's now clear and decided that Banks/Insurers in France will be able to offer investments tied to cryptocurrencies funds. The new framework is ready and waiting for publication.
It won't target individuals (only if you have a $500k portfolio) but professional investors. Better than nothing, at least cryptos hit the banks here, in 2 years everyone will get access to it, who knows? Private equity investment funds (FPCIs) are also concerned


Quote
This was not the primary objective of the Pact, but insurers will be able to offer products based on crypto-assets. They will be able to do so through specialized funds", confirms the LREM deputy and budget rapporteur, Joel Giraud. The new framework will be operational after the publication of the implementing decrees


I declare today April 13, 2019, France the new crypto heaven, it's official!
Private investors even now can buy some cryptocurrencies. Nothing stops them and those actions are not harmful for the economy while there are usually some legal difficulties with buying a big stash of crypto as a professional investor.
If at lest some of them would start investing into crypto that's definetely would be good because crypto market still needs more volume to become stable. The question is that there might be that serious traditional investors are not interested in cryptocurrencies.
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Still a good and welcoming news for our French crypto enthusiast. As far as I can remember, there are two crypto amendments that was rejected earlier. So I guess someone from behind really work something so that they can really invest on crypto.

Yeah, could be the start of something big in France and it could be the next crypto haven in Europe after Germany.
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When thi s is eventually made official ,we will be needing you to drop the link.
This is a welcomed development .
This will foster mainstream adoption.
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Why do they only allow people with a $500+ portfolio to do this?

This should surely draw in some big capital investments and it will also force the Banks to play fair.  Wink  I hope the US SEC learns something from this and would also follow the same example.  Roll Eyes
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i don't know whether to be happy about this news or scared about it. mainly because it says "crypto-assets" which sounds to me more like them wanting to enter the altcoin ICO shenanigans and fuel the terrible state that this market has been in for the past 2 years. it is true that there is a lot of money to be made from these scams but they are also enabling them to pull these things off. and the damage of them on the whole market has been dire.
I wouldn't be scared honestly since I doubt they would ever think of legalizing scams after the controversial ICO scams which have been plaguing this market in recent times.

I am happy that they decided to support the crypto ecosystem in some way at the end of the day.
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Where can I find the official statement of this news? You did not put any source of this news so better to add the link of the source. Dont force readers to do google search for such news.
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i don't know whether to be happy about this news or scared about it. mainly because it says "crypto-assets" which sounds to me more like them wanting to enter the altcoin ICO shenanigans and fuel the terrible state that this market has been in for the past 2 years. it is true that there is a lot of money to be made from these scams but they are also enabling them to pull these things off. and the damage of them on the whole market has been dire.
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