Topic: A formula for determining Worthiness of Poster (WoP) (Read 555 times)

I liked this one, because bias.
It is kind to me due to my lurking ways, relatively less posts..

What about all the jacks?
I assume I'd be second (after JackJack) but maybe I'm being too modest

@Darkstar_, o_e_i_e_o is in the lead by quite a lot there (merit wise).

@Vod, number of consanents in names times merits (just so oeieo doesn't get in on it)?

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a list of earnt merit/posts would actually be quite an interesting one to calculate (but only using posts since January - or whenever the merit system came out)...

Second place isn't bad when first place has four times as many underscores 

Correct, but there is a large obstacle here. The number of post should be the number of posts from a certain date onwards for all users (Merit System kick-off for example). Otherwise, the ratio works backwards for the people who have been on the forum for a long time, since their current post count will be much higher that someone who started posting on or after the 24/01/2018. Unfortunately knowing the starting post count for all accounts is not feasible, since there is no public snapshot from that date (perhaps a backup that @vod may have could serve).

Alternatively, the average number of posts per day could be derived and used, replacing the total number of posts.

For example (roughly), a person with 1200 posts with a 500 day old account has an average of 2,4 posts per day. Let’s also say that the system has been going on for 9 months (simplifying, 270 days), and that in that period of time he has earned 100 sMerits, then his ratio would be:
100 / (2,4*270) = 0,1543 merits per averaged post.
This avoids needing a snapshot and instead uses a moving daily average (I´d prefer the snapshot though for precision). The only thing is that the ratio would be exact for newer accounts, and using a moving average for older accounts that starts farther back in time (posting habits may have varied).

Top 50 users:

o_e_l_e_o - 1860
DarkStar_ - 342
ui_zakharchenko - 219
d_eddie - 214
Alex_Sr - 207
LFC_Bitcoin - 192
marcus_of_augustus - 186
Joel_Jantsen - 183
Goran_ - 180
Wind_FURY - 169
spartak_t - 160
k_e_k - 158
mu_enrico - 156
ToTheMoon_XOM9IK - 154
Heisenberg_Hunter - 124
Raja_MBZ - 112
_X_X_X_ - 104
Early_Waffle - 100
Star_Bucks - 90
fairy_person - 90
q(O_O)p - 90
ethan_nx - 84
the_doctor - 81
Battlestar_Coin - 78
Daboy_Lyle - 76
yua_na - 75
af_newbie - 73
sell my ac_________nt - 72
Phil_S - 71
bct_ail - 68
cheddur_announce - 67
Juliya_D - 65
r_f_n - 62
irfan_pak10 - 60
BravO_o - 59
EWBF_ - 58
Klara_karlovna - 58
LTU_btc - 54
Silvio_Carlos_Junior - 54
crypto_zoidberg - 52
big_daddy - 52
gruve_p - 51
dr_ropata - 51
Jacky_Chan - 50
sp_ - 50
BFG_O - 50
_church - 50
blue_way - 50
Richard_1 - 48
MJK_Anfaenger - 46

That kind of score system would also discourage people from spamming, since the most posts you have the lower your score gets! That sounds a fantastic formula nutildah! I hope it gets the attention it deserves and hopefully be implemented after a few tweaks.

As already mentioned, I also agree that counting the free merits is not fair, however if counting only the earned merits that'd create the opposite issue. The merit system was introduced on January, so people had about 9 months to earn merits. On the other hand the forums are operating for many years now, therefore some old members have thousands of posts and relative fewer merits, reducing their score because of that is also not fair.

I don't know if it's possible, but the best solution I could think of is if the score could take into consideration the postcount/activity/merit earned of the last 12 months.

Point taken.  They have to be useful metrics.   

In which case, allow me suggest Earned merit x Number of underscores in username.

I always love new metrics. 

It would be trivial for me to display this on BPIP.   Once we decide on a proper formula. 

Fair enough. But the better forumla, as LoyceV has pointed out, would be (Earned merit + 1)/Number of posts. Including airdropped merit and then multiplying that by activity, when they are essentially counting the same thing, puts a massive skew in favor of anyone who was a legendary before the merit system was introduced regardless if they are a one-liner shitposter, as can be seen by the hundreds of members who work out at a score of 1001 (1000 airdropped merit, 0 earned merit, same number of activity and posts, all posts meaningless and simply fulfilling bounty requirements).

I'm also agreed with LoyceV because just see the WoP of following two users.

WoP of Zaarin = [(0+1)/3136]x266 = 0.0848

WoP of krizpogi18 = [(0+1)/2662]x224 = 0.0841

So do you believe the Zaarin is worthy poster than krizpogi18 when comparing just two of them? I believe the answer is No. Zaarin was registered earlier than the other user and where he achieved more activity than krizpogi18. We cannot take the number of activity as a criterion when we calculating the WoP because the activity is the second barrier after merits for avoiding users to rank up just by gaining merits whether truly or abusive manner. If activity barrier isn't there users will ultimately rank up just gaining merits. What theymos has done is put the time factor into the equation when calculating the user rank which stopped the users getting rank up sometimes within one night (we all know merit is trading in the black market). That will give users also extra time for being active and being a responsible member.

In a nutshell, multiplying the activity when calculating the WoP would not yield a good figure for a comparison of users.


Post count of Zaarin is currently 3,136 but not 3,139

I think we don't want to consider the trust when calculating the WoP because trust is nothing to do with the worthiness of the poster. Having a higher trust score doesn't mean the poster is worthy or vice versa. Its ok for when calculating the recognition as done in BPIP

Lowest I see is

Zaarin - 0.08474036214

3,139 posts. no merit

You need more decimal places in your number to see if I win.  

Here is the BPIP top 500 list.  (1,000 was too large for this forum)


theymos - 1435.62
ibminer - 1247.00
phantastisch - 1186.00
teramit - 1139.00
sapta - 1122.00
jstefanop - 1114.00
Paashaas - 1105.00
Micio - 1086.00
dbshck - 1083.02
Globb0 - 1082.00
vapourminer - 1071.00
NLNico - 1065.40
VonSpass - 1065.00
nopedope89 - 1060.00
youngwebs - 1056.00
yefi - 1054.32
mmm01 - 1054.00
arulbero - 1053.00
Shawshank - 1052.00
MemoryDealers - 1051.00
casinocoin - 1051.00
Lasergun - 1051.00
mistercashking - 1051.00
Xprim777 - 1046.00
maildir - 1044.00
ErisDiscordia - 1042.00
bitcoin revo - 1042.00
fronti - 1041.54
Dunkelheit667 - 1040.00
eneloop - 1040.00
bcmine - 1037.22
seuntjie - 1033.00
notsofast - 1031.00
UdjinM6 - 1029.00
brutale2 - 1029.00
Spidersbox - 1029.00
GGUL - 1028.00
bitebits - 1028.00
Chefin - 1027.00
SpAcEDeViL - 1026.00
AGD - 1026.00
doc12 - 1026.00
cAPSLOCK - 1024.30
casinobitco - 1024.00
pazor_true - 1024.00
yogi - 1022.00
NattyLiteCoin - 1022.00
pinkman12345 - 1022.00
lavajumper - 1022.00
TheStuhlman - 1021.00
LightRider - 1021.00
CryptoImperator - 1020.00
PoolMinor - 1020.00
infofront - 1019.93
wetsuit - 1019.00
foroplus - 1019.00
A-Bolt - 1019.00
aleix - 1019.00
not.you - 1018.00
ThomasV - 1018.00
sandy-is-fine - 1018.00
Cluster2k - 1018.00
hodlcoins - 1018.00
wosch76 - 1017.00
rb1205 - 1017.00
kenobius - 1016.00
BlueDragon747 - 1016.00
Trading - 1016.00
fairglu - 1016.00
otrkid70 - 1015.00
finist4x - 1015.00
monkeynuts - 1014.00
Adriano - 1014.00
nrd525 - 1013.00
shveicar - 1013.00
ghostlander - 1012.00
protokol - 1012.00
peteycamey - 1012.00
funkenstein - 1011.00
Rux - 1011.00
BG4 - 1011.00
c_lab - 1011.00
jeezy - 1011.00
punkrock - 1011.00
aigeezer - 1011.00
klintay - 1011.00
BitcoinFX - 1010.27
fragout - 1010.00
Wed - 1010.00
IGHOR - 1010.00
jiggytom - 1010.00
Michail1 - 1010.00
Unthinkingbit - 1009.00
fitraok09 - 1009.00
notaek - 1009.00
stingers - 1008.00
FiniteByDesign - 1008.00
silverfuture - 1008.00
domob - 1008.00
IncludeBeer - 1008.00
andme - 1008.00
Aswan - 1008.00
jimbobway - 1008.00
Anduck - 1007.00
Salmen - 1007.00
Conqueror - 1007.00
xcbtrader - 1007.00
rivoke - 1007.00
No_2 - 1007.00
SmokeTooMuch - 1007.00
SUPERANTONIO - 1007.00
martismartis - 1006.00
sawa - 1006.00
Hypolite - 1006.00
maikelblogo - 1006.00
Jookly - 1006.00
Morbid - 1006.00
EbonHawk - 1006.00
vancefox - 1006.00
keystroke - 1006.00
AmDD - 1006.00
mindtrip - 1006.00
IIOII - 1006.00
Qoheleth - 1006.00
elambert - 1006.00
mirny - 1006.00
leopard2 - 1006.00
alpet - 1006.00
elianite - 1005.00
coingamblingreviews - 1005.00
elux - 1005.00
Raize - 1005.00
TheLittleDuke - 1005.00
C10H15N - 1005.00
CosaNostra - 1005.00
Lyricz - 1005.00
raetsch - 1005.00
Seccour - 1005.00
naypalm - 1004.00
stevegee58 - 1004.00
Buratino - 1004.00
minorman - 1004.00
CryptoCanary - 1004.00
xyzzy099 - 1004.00
SgtMoth - 1004.00
TheTribesman - 1004.00
CoinDiver - 1004.00
Frogman - 1004.00
AzzAz - 1004.00
dvd-rw - 1004.00
BrainShutdown - 1004.00
UnDerDoG81 - 1004.00
monsanto - 1004.00
penoze - 1004.00
Jay_Pal - 1004.00
ak111in - 1004.00
Rent_a_Ray - 1004.00
Eliovp - 1004.00
Vin - 1004.00
mdtspain - 1004.00
fredeq - 1004.00
The Bitcoin Co-op - 1004.00
idev - 1003.00
seljo - 1003.00
smracer - 1003.00
Mapuo - 1003.00
noise23 - 1003.00
johny1976 - 1003.00
adamas - 1003.00
TracerX - 1003.00
in100 - 1003.00
SuperClam - 1003.00
DonQuijote - 1003.00
George5 - 1003.00
Kn_os - 1003.00
manrus - 1003.00
110110101 - 1003.00
ZACHM - 1003.00
iikun - 1003.00
MaoChao - 1003.00
nicehash - 1003.00
Relaxedsense - 1003.00
Mota - 1003.00
bitcasino.io - 1003.00
dozerz - 1003.00
l8orre - 1003.00
LiQio - 1003.00
mellon - 1003.00
MirkoIta - 1003.00
Xtc - 1003.00
milly6 - 1002.20
marcetin - 1002.06
skidog - 1002.00
visdude - 1002.00
rockethead - 1002.00
BldSwtTrs - 1002.00
snortex - 1002.00
abercrombie - 1002.00
Mad_Max - 1002.00
cesmak - 1002.00
Ilsk - 1002.00
hunterwolf - 1002.00
BioMike - 1002.00
generalt - 1002.00
maaku - 1002.00
Greglab - 1002.00
Glucose - 1002.00
o_solo_miner - 1002.00
Gronthaing - 1002.00
guwera - 1002.00
shahim - 1002.00
remotemass - 1002.00
leps - 1002.00
lyka - 1002.00
yogibaer - 1002.00
tonyq - 1002.00
anatolikostis - 1002.00
jtoomim - 1002.00
DanielBTC - 1002.00
jsmit332 - 1002.00
lestherat - 1002.00
fornit - 1002.00
abracadabra - 1002.00
pao_de_lo - 1002.00
JuanHungLo - 1002.00
The Frisian - 1002.00
Bitware - 1002.00
MoneroMooo - 1002.00
sturle - 1002.00
Beachguy - 1002.00
filharvey - 1002.00
Ejarwan - 1002.00
mitzie - 1002.00
Sunny King - 1002.00
GrinZ - 1002.00
FandangledGizmo - 1002.00
glub0x - 1002.00
Guido - 1002.00
lukyforvar - 1002.00
buysellbitcoin - 1002.00
Ente - 1002.00
BTCtrader71 - 1002.00
OneHash - 1002.00
penek - 1002.00
Mageant - 1002.00
scor2k - 1002.00
greentea - 1002.00
ofeefee - 1002.00
fast2fix - 1002.00
BitBitCoin - 1002.00
jadefalke - 1002.00
dashingriddler - 1002.00
CEX - 1002.00
troleyb?s - 1002.00
Alonzo Ewing - 1002.00
hoop - 1002.00
nikkus - 1002.00
avirdoz - 1002.00
wariner - 1002.00
rigel - 1002.00
HorseRider - 1002.00
ROBERTO - 1002.00
Vorksholk - 1002.00
tigerfree - 1001.00
BitcoinEXpress - 1001.00
DoomDumas - 1001.00
EPiSKiNG - 1001.00
gameristo - 1001.00
shitaifan2013 - 1001.00
natmccoy - 1001.00
mrbodz - 1001.00
pseudonymdude - 1001.00
restless - 1001.00
smaragda - 1001.00
portice - 1001.00
KrLos - 1001.00
CrowdWhale - 1001.00
Tirapon - 1001.00
ceti - 1001.00
Pizpie - 1001.00
gadman2 - 1001.00
WaterLooDown - 1001.00
agswinner - 1001.00
gnargnar - 1001.00
Danydee - 1001.00
Taxidermista - 1001.00
gusti - 1001.00
tobeaj2mer01 - 1001.00
Explodicle - 1001.00
FryguyUK - 1001.00
lame.duck - 1001.00
chris190 - 1001.00
varanvaran - 1001.00
JohnnyBTCSeed - 1001.00
Stealthcoin - 1001.00
bennana - 1001.00
z38630610 - 1001.00
hiddensphinx - 1001.00
BiTJack - 1001.00
Rollin.io - 1001.00
DiCE1904 - 1001.00
ejp - 1001.00
gimre - 1001.00
iamnotcool - 1001.00
SuperTramp - 1001.00
Wei H - 1001.00
jago25_98 - 1001.00
Micky25 - 1001.00
svojoe - 1001.00
jpoker272727 - 1001.00
LTEX - 1001.00
joele - 1001.00
pianist - 1001.00
TTBit - 1001.00
djnocide - 1001.00
c789 - 1001.00
the_poet - 1001.00
edonkey - 1001.00
xsentus - 1001.00
bluedeep - 1001.00
Adamlm - 1001.00
friedcat - 1001.00
snowdropfore - 1001.00
Videlicet - 1001.00
HeroC - 1001.00
Frangomel - 1001.00
asor - 1001.00
blg42598 - 1001.00
ballot - 1001.00
daybyter - 1001.00
donnyespo - 1001.00
Realpra - 1001.00
kalgecin - 1001.00
BRE - 1001.00
MiningBuddy - 1001.00
wknight - 1001.00
redbeans2012 - 1001.00
yohannc - 1001.00
Kazuldur - 1001.00
Dotto - 1001.00
kwukduck - 1001.00
Seal - 1001.00
OnkelPaul - 1001.00
Zubilica - 1001.00
grau - 1001.00
culexevilman - 1001.00
TheKoziTwo - 1001.00
Honest Tim - 1001.00
tkon3 - 1001.00
rebuilder - 1001.00
Cranky4u - 1001.00
cryptasm - 1001.00
super3 - 1001.00
Mjbmonetarymetals - 1001.00
chum_yum - 1001.00
jalmari - 1001.00
numismatist - 1001.00
Liquid71 - 1001.00
ontopicplease - 1001.00
Compa - 1001.00
cluit - 1001.00
First.Bitcoins - 1001.00
Varvarin - 1001.00
luigi1111 - 1001.00
akaBeaver - 1001.00
SolarSilver - 1001.00
desired_username - 1001.00
stan.distortion - 1001.00
Tyke - 1001.00
tiozes - 1001.00
ZyTReX - 1001.00
cokkapaga - 1001.00
Tinua - 1001.00
Mervyn_Pumpkinhead - 1001.00
lucazane - 1001.00
mtbitcoin - 1001.00
cryptmebro - 1001.00
CECVW - 1001.00
tabnloz - 1001.00
Lexis77 - 1001.00
Mobius - 1001.00
Hunyadi - 1001.00
BitcoinPappi - 1001.00
Meech - 1001.00
donk4u - 1001.00
zzaza - 1001.00
MissCrypto - 1001.00
Macno - 1001.00
YarkoL - 1001.00
Gyfts - 1001.00
sureshnsnet - 1001.00
CrazyGuy - 1001.00
pickupcoin - 1001.00
Joe_Bauers - 1001.00
mezmerizer9 - 1001.00
dasource - 1001.00
achimsmile - 1001.00
coolindark - 1001.00
dashminer - 1001.00
bitcoinvest - 1001.00
spiccioli - 1001.00
mistercoin - 1001.00
smartaction - 1001.00
Bimmerhead - 1001.00
hugabase - 1001.00
Praxis - 1001.00
chilly2k - 1001.00
valgfx - 1001.00
keewee - 1001.00
michelem - 1001.00
kingcrimson - 1001.00
CartmanSPC - 1001.00
chopstick - 1001.00
yakuza699 - 1001.00
opossum - 1001.00
Dutchyyy - 1001.00
maxll - 1001.00
redjedievolution - 1001.00
hashman - 1001.00
Samai - 1001.00
weex - 1001.00
merc84 - 1001.00
mirador17 - 1001.00
TheIrishman - 1001.00
erpbridge - 1001.00
Ivanhoe - 1001.00
FUBAR-BDHR - 1001.00
DigitalCurrencyConsultant - 1001.00
richiela - 1001.00
thundertoe - 1001.00
luv2drnkbr - 1001.00
Kanapka - 1001.00
glen123 - 1001.00
wtman - 1001.00
goldmaxx - 1001.00
Chalkbot - 1001.00
ohad - 1001.00
Eisenhower34 - 1001.00
Jan - 1001.00
tyrion70 - 1001.00
koin - 1001.00
chiguireitor - 1001.00
el_rlee - 1001.00
XCASH - 1001.00
blablahblah - 1001.00
M0ndialu - 1001.00
ltcnim - 1001.00
paulthetafy - 1001.00
Epoch - 1001.00
Antioxidant - 1001.00
chinchs - 1001.00
Bitcoinmeetups.org - 1001.00
pinger - 1001.00
Tammy Chan - 1001.00
starsoccer9 - 1001.00
knightlife999 - 1001.00
l3sny - 1001.00
eCoin.eu - 1001.00
Undermood - 1001.00
Jayjay04 - 1001.00
Reynaldo - 1001.00
l8nit3 - 1001.00
DGulari - 1001.00
_mr_e - 1001.00
elite3000 - 1001.00
Komonec - 1001.00
escalicha - 1001.00
coinking - 1001.00
somenick - 1001.00
Vagnavs - 1001.00
Souldream - 1001.00
jyaken - 1001.00
spiderbrain - 1001.00
helloge - 1001.00
johny08 - 1001.00
BAGOBO - 1001.00
bitfreak! - 1001.00
ataranlen - 1001.00
LiteBit - 1001.00
goose20 - 1001.00
Elokane - 1001.00
TKeenan - 1001.00
Timetwister - 1001.00
TippingPoint - 1001.00
xchrix - 1001.00
Kushedout - 1001.00
hashmaster1 - 1001.00
zby - 1001.00
FlensGold - 1001.00
50cent_rapper - 1001.00
Ivanech - 1001.00
egghead123 - 1001.00
Kupsi - 1001.00
clockuniverse - 1001.00
magaura - 1001.00
bclcjunkie - 1001.00
bitcool - 1001.00
farfiman - 1001.00
rlh - 1001.00
Enjorlas - 1001.00

WoP = [(Merit + 1) / Posts] x Activity

(648 / 3996) x 728 = 118

I beat vod with 260!

Jet's 244 (Jet Cash)

((30+1)/115)*115.

31 ? hmm.

((30+1)/116)*116.

~31 after this post.

Oh... I was applying the wrong order in the operations and getting a <0. I should have read the post about the brackets first.

WoP = ((Merit + 1) / Posts) x Activity    

That´s much better, yet I am still not worth being listened to anyway  

Sometimes I would say hello people stop spamming the forums. Other times I would say hey people it is just a forum, let's not exaggerate too much. Why so serious?

Best way might use the formula like  (Earned Merit+1)/ (Activity gathered after Jan 24 +1) but I guess it will be difficult to calculate the activity generated by user after Jan 24 due to concept of potential activity.

Concept of number of post created after Jan 24 will fix the calculation for everyone.

 (Earned Merit+1)/ (No. of post created after Jan 24 +1)

This is what I posted in Vod's thread How recognized are you in the bitcointalk world?:
Vod changed the calculation to exclude airdropped Merit.

Then again, by multiplying Posts and Activity, you double count those too.

If this is what you're looking for, why don't you just divide Merit by Posts? Add one to give Newbies an unbiased chance, so:
WoP_2.0 = (Merit earned + 1) / Posts. That would give:
satoshi: 2.10
theymos: 0.33
LoyceV: 0.17
soniclord: 0.00

The drawback is that old posts may be good, but didn't get merited because they're old. Over time, this will become less important.