Topic: A Heroin Store (Read 104599 times)
Those caught in the link will become the informants to pass information about the next link, and everything will collapse. I expect any product that can not be delivered can immediately create these negative feelings. The opposite also happened, in which a day or a week later, the BTC I collected was less than I paid for coffee. There will be a lot of pedestrians, each receiving clear, and many packets are moved around between points or are transported by vehicle from one place to another. Packets will not have distinct identity traits, and they will continue to hold in the stream regardless of whether the load means going somewhere. The cars will be cars with predictable routes, city buses, cars of everyday people etc.
posts his own email address to an online forum?
We use our real email IDs on a dozen websites, slip-ups as these are bound to happen. He simply must never have imagined how big his creation would get... or when this specific thread would pin-point his email ID.
Heck he even deleted the post and the account, which was the best thing to do. The only reason Gary Alford was able to get the deleted account's details was because he was able to show his official badge and make bitcointalk's admins do the talking.
Being in that same thread though, is unreal!
The New York Times front page story refers to this forum thread. But what kind of "Drug Lord" orders fake IDs to his home or posts his own email address to an online forum?
See http://www.bitcoinwednesday.com/the-legacy-of-silk-road-part-4/
At least it's nice to see that my predictions were right 
I question that. I see the Feds arrest a guy that lived with roomates, and couldn't really afford a car. One who walked to a internet cafe to access the website for maintaince issues. And yet, the feds say this guy is the one in charge (among at least six admins) and claim that he is the owner of an $80 million encrypted bitcoin wallet that they can't seem to break into.
I, for one, think that this guy was an employee. While he wasn't starving, he certainly didn't act like a guy that had access to 80 million dollars in an untaxable format.
Where did you get this information from? I haven't read anything and am curious on where you pulled the info up about his personal life.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/how-the-feds-took-down-the-dread-pirate-roberts/
At least it's nice to see that my predictions were right
I question that. I see the Feds arrest a guy that lived with roomates, and couldn't really afford a car. One who walked to a internet cafe to access the website for maintaince issues. And yet, the feds say this guy is the one in charge (among at least six admins) and claim that he is the owner of an $80 million encrypted bitcoin wallet that they can't seem to break into.
I, for one, think that this guy was an employee. While he wasn't starving, he certainly didn't act like a guy that had access to 80 million dollars in an untaxable format.
Where did you get this information from? I haven't read anything and am curious on where you pulled the info up about his personal life.
At least it's nice to see that my predictions were right
I question that. I see the Feds arrest a guy that lived with roomates, and couldn't really afford a car. One who walked to a internet cafe to access the website for maintaince issues. And yet, the feds say this guy is the one in charge (among at least six admins) and claim that he is the owner of an $80 million encrypted bitcoin wallet that they can't seem to break into.
I, for one, think that this guy was an employee. While he wasn't starving, he certainly didn't act like a guy that had access to 80 million dollars in an untaxable format.
The Silk Road criminal complaint references this thread - http://www.scribd.com/doc/172764080/Ulbricht-Criminal-Complaint (page 25)
Post #71 quotes a deleted post by a user "altoid" referenced in the complaint. I wonder if the thought experiment discussions in this thread inspired the creation of the Silk Road...
Post #71 quotes a deleted post by a user "altoid" referenced in the complaint. I wonder if the thought experiment discussions in this thread inspired the creation of the Silk Road...
Ugh. The thought makes me shudder.
Back then this forum was a more innocent place, full of dreamers discussing what at the time felt like improbable scenarios out of a William Gibson novel. I was really taken by surprise how soon this fantasy became reality, how soon this whole bitcoin experiment became serious fucking business. Very surreal to read this thread in retrospect. At least it's nice to see that my predictions were right
Yep,
It appears the original reply by altoid has been deleted, though it was quoted multiple times:
Somehow, I'm seeing tremendous increase of popularity of forest sightseeing
So here we go, first Bitcoin drug store.
We're going into deep water faster than i thought then.
I wonder how long will it take for govs to start investigating Bitcoin.
Interesting to read back on the conversation that happened two and a half years ago, and to see how much has changed since.
It appears the original reply by altoid has been deleted, though it was quoted multiple times:
(probably berried in the desert or in a forest)
Somehow, I'm seeing tremendous increase of popularity of forest sightseeing
What an awesome thread! You guys have a ton of great ideas. Has anyone seen Silk Road yet? It's kind of like an anonymous amazon.com. I don't think they have heroin on there, but they are selling other stuff. They basically use bitcoin and tor to broker anonymous transactions. It's at http://tydgccykixpbu6uz.onion. Those not familiar with Tor can go to silkroad420.wordpress.com for instructions on how to access the .onion site.
Let me know what you guys think
Let me know what you guys think
So here we go, first Bitcoin drug store.
We're going into deep water faster than i thought then.
I wonder how long will it take for govs to start investigating Bitcoin.
Interesting to read back on the conversation that happened two and a half years ago, and to see how much has changed since.
The Silk Road criminal complaint references this thread - http://www.scribd.com/doc/172764080/Ulbricht-Criminal-Complaint (page 25)
Post #71 quotes a deleted post by a user "altoid" referenced in the complaint. I wonder if the thought experiment discussions in this thread inspired the creation of the Silk Road...
Post #71 quotes a deleted post by a user "altoid" referenced in the complaint. I wonder if the thought experiment discussions in this thread inspired the creation of the Silk Road...
That's the point. A junkie shooting himself up with coke or a hippie just having a few joints is victimless (though coercion, death and extortion is often a part of producing 'harder' drugs due to the massive profit margins due to illegality -> cycle)
I don't mind if some guy buys pot on Silk Road for bitcoins. If they buy CP I wouldn't want anything to do with them & would hope an undercover busts them eventually (though a very paranoid pedo might be hard to catch).
I don't mind if some guy buys pot on Silk Road for bitcoins. If they buy CP I wouldn't want anything to do with them & would hope an undercover busts them eventually (though a very paranoid pedo might be hard to catch).
Someone was comparing it to heroin above. They are both illegal in most countries.
And it has been pointed out that the two are not comparable despite both being illegal in most countries. One is 'malum prohibitum' (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/malum+prohibitum) and the other is 'malum in se' (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/malum%20in%20se). They don't belong in the same context.
Someone was comparing it to heroin above. They are both illegal in most countries.
How do you cure someone whose urges to screw children wont go away even with chemical castration?
Who are you arguing with, and why are we still talking about this crap? If you want to discuss CP and debate it's virtues and vices, start your own thread. It will make deleting it much easier on us mods.
Until then, this stuff is off-topic. Way off topic.
The heroin store idea was more of a libertarian thought experiment than a serious proposal.
If somebody started discussing a CP store on this forum they would a) very quickly get a really bad reputation and b) probably get banned by the admins.
So why not the same reaction to somebody who discusses a heroin store? Because CP is coercive and selling heroin to adults isn't.
If somebody started discussing a CP store on this forum they would a) very quickly get a really bad reputation and b) probably get banned by the admins.
So why not the same reaction to somebody who discusses a heroin store? Because CP is coercive and selling heroin to adults isn't.
Meh, I don't really care if my neighbor buys stuff to put up his nose. It's his life, and I might think he's ruining it esp. if he can't keep up the habit with legal funds, but it's his life. Who am I to judge him.
If he's paying to see footage of horribly abused or manipulated kids (or even paying someone to do it) then it becomes an issue. I don't need to know the children in question personally to care; I just don't want to live near a person who can without any remorse be turned on by abuse of kids.
I don't care that the abuse already happened and he's just looking at the evidence.
And I wouldn't exactly mind or make the effort to call the cops if someone were to gouge his eyes out with a HIV-infected rusty fork.
I'm no drug advocate.
But I'd claim that most people would say a pedophile is about the worst thing in society, somewhere along with people who kill for fun or torture pets for amusement.
At least you can cure a drug addict.
How do you cure someone whose urges to screw children wont go away even with chemical castration?
I would add, second, learn the limitations of TOR. ie; learn not just how to use it, but how to use it well.
i need a cocaine store but have no idea how to get to silk road ppl help me
i need address with instructions
i need address with instructions
First learn to use TOR. This is not the place to do that. Once you understand Tor you can come back.
yeah, you´re right. i´m sorry!
lol!
Drug addiction is no laughing matter! i need a cocaine store but have no idea how to get to silk road ppl help me
i need address with instructions
i need address with instructions
lol!
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