Topic: A known enemy can easily be defeated - page 2. (Read 317 times)

Did your brother lose coins in the past, or did the scammers just randomly call him about lost coins? I ask you this because whenever newbies lose coins, they are usually too devastated and they post about it in different platforms and also post their contact details for people who can help to reach them, not knowing they are setting themselves up for a second scam.

To add to what other users have already said about the possibility of a second scam, the scammers can also carry out a dust attack on your brother, or an address poisoning scam, were the scammer sends your bro a very small amount of coins with an address very similar to his, and if your bro is someone who copies addresses from transaction history, he can easily fall for it and be scammed again.

One thing I get to wonder about stuff like these when they come up is,

How random can this really be? Was his coin ever lost and even so, how did you get to know and what business is it of yours fo poke nose in my business and lost coin. It doesn’t really add up but, given the fact that I don’t know this person and I don’t know what his got on me to want my public address, I just wouldn’t key in by giving the caller anything related to an address of mine.

What you did isn’t exactly bad, it’s just another way of telling them, they are looking in the wrong hole and when they realize that, wasting all efforts, they would know better to take your details off their log.

Enemies has time limit though it's tough to fight them without courage what many many loss while fights enemies is because of lacking courage but a full courageous person always have victory at the end because enemies can't overwhelmed you instead you do.

Many things is required in the crypto space is all about smartness though the may be smart but you as the real man need be smarter than the enemies you need learn ahead of the strategy they will deploy to treck you before it comes your way and and block them before occurrence.

The saying of those that waiting to the end shall laugh is always a song of any one who surmond courage to fight against enemies because untill you sit up to fight the enemies keeps gaining more strength over you.

Scam is a long process and the first thing they do to a victim is to initiate a trust and that is too blind you from seeing any red flag especially if you are naive and ignorant about blockchain and how transaction works on the network.

Possible scenario, they will asked for your wallet address just to prove they are starting to work only to come back later and ask for payment to buy some software packages to use to help you recover your money. If you send them, that's the beginning of your nemesis because they will request another one from you continuesly until you come to your senses.


I have always seen hundreds of same complaints of the same scams in chain abuse, they complain everyday of the scam and this is to tell you that people just want to invest into crypto but has zero understanding of the safety about their coins and this how they lose money all the time. Ignorance is a big threat to security and that's why too simple scams are paramount everywhere.

It can be a new trick of cheating, cheaters change their tricks all the time. I don't understand how to get back the coins which are missing from our wallet. If there is such an expert then he can try another way but why would he want personal information of the wallet to get back those coins. We must be careful about this because if we do not understand the deception of the deceivers, we will easily be deceived. You should try as much as you can, before taking help from others, you must think about the previous and subsequent issues and then take help. Many may have already been duped by this new scam but those who have not yet been duped beware.

This may not actually be about you this time around, but you can agree that so many have been attacked through related means by many of these fraudsters, we just need to be careful and being observant as well as not to be greedy, also know that we cant have our transaction reversed once it was made, and no recovery service for such.


They cannot do anything only with the use of the wallet address, unless they have the private keys with them, another thing they may try to do is in attacking using a dust transaction method, whereby they will make a deposit later to that same address from a similar one and then wait for such perfect timing that will make them strike an attack the moment he made a mistake of sending through the transaction history wallet address to a wrong identical one from them.

I will rather he should ignore it, that could be a scam. And if he should summit any wallet I guess any transaction with that wallet could be traced. Because it is strange to get a call from a stranger asking you to send something valuable, because that could be another ridiculous way of stealing something most valuable from you, if you aren't being very careful.

I experience this kind of traditional fraud mode almost all the time by sending SMS or telephone calls. For those who do not understand what they are doing, they will be trapped and successfully deceived.
The conclusion that can be drawn is that things related to money have big risks. If Bitcoin is quite careful in public spaces and always ensures that the private key or seed is not stored on an internet-connected storage device.

There are other tricky paths that will lure one into losses but with taking precautions in every single steps, we should become safer on both sides. Your brother should be careful because there's a whole lot of ugly incident outside these walls when it comes to cryptocurrency. On a second thought, he might be a newbie and have no hefty information regarding the space, we just have to do what's right and the pending projects we know or don't have clue about, it's advisable to abstain from them because indulging in them will definitely make one record loss which is the basic thing we're preventing from happening. 

Sending small transactions that is fake to your wallet, would have sounded better like what a scammer would do, that's knowing that when you do see the alert you will be forced to open the wallet and check and may be asked to provide further details in the process thinking recovery of the lost coins is possible.
Well, good advice is free and our OP's brother sure too one well and even if it may prove too difficult and impossible to recover the lost coins, there's always the possibility of a miracle happening and at such, he should avoid such cold calls that have no honest details both in the future and present.

I will advice you tell your brother to disagree with the information that comes from them, because is obvious that those people happens to be a scam, if I May ask did your brother complained to them about his Lost?  How did they get to find out about the Lost? Before you should think of providing the wallet address this are things that need to be considered. is obvious that they intend to do something with it before they ask your brother to provide his wallet address I'm pretty sure they must have planned on what they're going to use it for, of which I don't know their intentions but you just need to tell your brother to be extremely careful.

There can be two things, they will surely look the wallet for transactions and balance as a first thing, and then they will probably try to persuade the wallet owner to send them money or maybe the seed phrase so that they can recover his money. An experienced person wouldn't fall for this because they would know it's a scam, but you can't think the same for a newbie who might have lost some money earlier in a scam or something.

These scammers are pretty good at making you feel like they are your friend and well-wishers so that you believe whatever they say, this is the reason why they become successful in scamming newbies most of the time. The good thing is that your brother didn't hide this and followed their instructions and informed you about it.

Your brother did well and you gave a good advice to him but if he gives his real wallet address so they can

- Look at his transactions to see how much money he has or find other people to scam and after they will find a way to grab that money.
- Try to get into his wallet and steal his money.
- Send fake transactions or small amounts of cryptocurrency to confuse him or even can give fake coins so while swapping that coins he may lost all the money.

By giving fake wallet address your brother is avoiding these problems. It is great that you are both being careful and warning others about these scams.

Do you know that when he send his address to them they would asked him random questions to know if he knew where he store his key phrase and even if he can't find they could use indirect ways to enter him of more details and as someone who is desperate to recover his coin he wouldn't know when he may reveal important information to them. Just as people keeps saying that they are holding some specific amount of bitcoin or other coin before you knew you began to get some random messages from people., this mostly happened when someone just create a post about having huge amount of money and he would be looking for a way to do some trade to increase his profits at this moments you would see people sending him pm to help him out without knowing that those people has no good intention for him.

Note any coin that is not in bitcoin address is likely to be scam, let say if they asked him of bsc address, ethereum and polygon address there are every possibility that they would likely send scam token and asked him to gas the address and swap coin, immediately he associate his private keys or seed phrase then automatically the address is being controlled by those people.

All people and platforms that offer wallet or lost currency recovery services are undoubtedly scams. Without a doubt, everyone knows that losing the private key, seed phrases, or currencies inside the wallet are matters that no one can help in returning if lost, but requesting a wallet address by any scammer does not pose any threat, and this is what the scammer wants to make you feel at ease and avoid suspicion from the beginning, and eventually trap you in one way or another.

This could be by convincing the victim to pay the full-service fee or the blockchain, or 50% before starting and 50% after completing the service, or by having the victim install software like TeamViewer so they can control the computer and steal sensitive and important data and hack it, or by sending one of the phishing domains to obtain the victim's seed phrases or private key. Then they might use this wallet to send an On-Chain Message to addresses the wallet owner has previously transacted with, which could belong to friends or acquaintances, and then scam them through the owner's wallet or steal the assets that are still present in other blockchains and NFTs that the wallet owner overlooked. There might be even more advanced scamming methods, so it is best to block incoming calls from such strangers and never comply with their requests.

They who? did they provide any details and where he sent the address was there any clue about the organization was it an official or a random source that asked about the wallet because its very concerning if it was not an official authorities call then you need to be careful because maybe someone from your circle or a person who knows about you directly targeting you.

If it was the official call then there might be some other investigations. Hmm anyway mostly ignore such calls if they are unofficial and if they are official contacts for legal assistance because a professional can guide you better in the legal affairs that which details to be provided and which shouldn't.

Getting the wallet address of a person can cause future scam attacks, which means if your brother had shared his wallet address, then that scammer might try different types of scam attacks on him, like address poisoning, or something else, they will try to fish him so that he would caught up in there honey words. And I don't think they would do any strong damage by only knowing your wallet address unless your brighter is a noob.

Means, it was there first demand, after that they would check it on explorer, and might ask you to download some files, or some software so that you could unlock it by yourself, or they might say, we have unlocked your wallet, and in order to get the seed phrase you have to pay us more etc. etc. They will try to scam, so its better to report them, I found a site, don't know the potential it have but dyor before reporting that call here https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Scammers come up with all kinds of new ways to scam people. There are a lot of ways the scammers can use to steal your money, in this case;

• The scammers can request for personal data and use it for identity theft/fraud.
• They could ask for a fee for their service, and later ask for more fees until the victim is unable to send anymore.

OP, I don’t think this was a random call. You should ask your cousins some questions. Did you lose his coins and how did he lose them? It seems to me that it is the same scammers who stole his coins in the first place that are contacting him for bitcoin recovery service.

I believe that the scammers will want to do anything to gain a victim's trust, so them asking their victim to connect their wallet could be a first step to gain trust, after which they will unfold the second phase of their scam. So I think that it's either of two things, they'll end up asking for outrageous fees, until the victim will get the picture and move on, or they'll coax the victim to unintentionally provide them with sensitive information to hack their wallet. When Bitcoin is sent to a wrong address, it's as good as gone forever, unless the receiver wants to reverse the Bitcoin to the sender, so it's best for the person to move on, instead of contacting these recovery scammers.

Start out if your brother has lost his coins. From there, stitches the people that he has talked with and why that random call knows that he has lost it before.

While there's no problem at all if he sends a random fresh wallet address to that guy. But as Lucius said and explained, that's the start of the scam.

Tell your brother to be wise as lost coins if it's with crypto, they're lost forever.