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Topic: A little known ASIC benefit. - page 2. (Read 4237 times)

legendary
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July 19, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
#8
Good question. If we assume efficiency of a custom ASIC is 10x that of an FPGA, then mining efficiency (bitcoins mined per amount of energy spent) for a custom ASIC will be exactly the same as that of an FPGA, if difficulty rises by a factor of 10. This, of course, won't happen all at once, but it might be the reason BFL is selling these units so cheaply: they've done the math, and the math ain't promising (if you're a miner). For BFL it's a goldbitcoin mine.

Maybe they get the ASICs in September (and the devices done) and let them rum for 4 weeks till october for 'testing'. But you are right, in the long run, they will make more money selling mining hardware.
legendary
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July 19, 2012, 09:25:39 AM
#7
prohint: if everybody had ASICs, wouldn't the difficulty be very high? And wouldn't that mean you need more ASICs (and more energy) to get the same amount of bitcoins? And wouldn't that mean more heat? just saying.
I think this is more of a pro-question.

Good question. If we assume efficiency of a custom ASIC is 10x that of an FPGA, then mining efficiency (bitcoins mined per amount of energy spent) for a custom ASIC will be exactly the same as that of an FPGA, if difficulty rises by a factor of 10. This, of course, won't happen all at once, but it might be the reason BFL is selling these units so cheaply: they've done the math, and the math ain't promising (if you're a miner). For BFL it's a goldbitcoin mine.
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 12:57:28 PM
#6
prohint: if everybody had ASICs, wouldn't the difficulty be very high? And wouldn't that mean you need more ASICs (and more energy) to get the same amount of bitcoins? And wouldn't that mean more heat? just saying.

but not everyone will have ASICs... and it won't be profitable for people to buy ASICs at some point where we'll be using less electricity for the same amount of bitcoins b/c for every 40 FPGAs or GPUs shutdown, only one ASIC will be purchased/turned on.

not very specific on the numbers, but I think that's true.  However, someone with more time on their hands can do the math.

I'm off the eat pasta!
that will only be during the transition, like from cpu -> gpu. once the majority switched over, the benefits will be lost.
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
#5
prohint: if everybody had ASICs, wouldn't the difficulty be very high? And wouldn't that mean you need more ASICs (and more energy) to get the same amount of bitcoins? And wouldn't that mean more heat? just saying.

but not everyone will have ASICs... and it won't be profitable for people to buy ASICs at some point where we'll be using less electricity for the same amount of bitcoins b/c for every 40 FPGAs or GPUs shutdown, only one ASIC will be purchased/turned on.

not very specific on the numbers, but I think that's true.  However, someone with more time on their hands can do the math.

I'm off the eat pasta!
legendary
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July 18, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
#4
prohint: if everybody had ASICs, wouldn't the difficulty be very high? And wouldn't that mean you need more ASICs (and more energy) to get the same amount of bitcoins? And wouldn't that mean more heat? just saying.
hero member
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July 18, 2012, 12:17:46 PM
#3
Lawl. This could go both ways. Depending upon which side of the law you are on. Wink
sr. member
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July 17, 2012, 08:44:42 PM
#2
With the lower power needed law enforcement will be less likely to confuse your mining farm with a  grow op.

Discuss.


Ummm, but what if my excuse for my grow op was the rack of GPU's?
hero member
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Wat
July 17, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
#1
With the lower power needed law enforcement will be less likely to confuse your mining farm with a  grow op.

Discuss.
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