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IamCANADIAN013

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Quote from: cafucafucafu on December 11, 2014, 06:25:46 PM

I have been looking at the gaming websites to see what the reaction to the Microsoft news would be ... and it isn't good!

Have a look at IGN posters http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/11/you-can-now-pay-for-xbox-and-windows-content-with-bitcoin

Other forums have similar reactions. I think we have a lot of teaching to do.

I felt the same way before I actually learned about it. I just thought it was some digital token that you buy. I.e. nerd money. I didn't know anything about the Blockchain.

They're gamers, what did you expect? Most of these people like to tell you how much of a whore your mom is, or how they can kick your as, or... you get the idea. Gaming and flaming come hand in hand for a lot of gamers, LOL! I bet a lot of them are young teens who have very little clue how fiat even works. Likely have had mommy and daddy buy most their stuff for them at this point. Most likely cant grasp the big picture and only see bitcoin for what happened this year, which isn't all that good.

Give them time to learn and get educated from people who know a lot about it. I think a lot of us thought the same way when were first heard about bitcoin and what it was.

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Quote from: Flashman on December 15, 2014, 02:58:21 PM

Quote from: botany on December 15, 2014, 01:09:11 PM

Gamers possibly don't have the ability to think long term. Cheesy

A fact which is frequently used against them. i.e. Preorder game at $70 vs discounted to $30 a few weeks later.

lol so true! took me years to get around that mental block:p

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Hodl!

Quote from: botany on December 15, 2014, 01:09:11 PM

Gamers possibly don't have the ability to think long term. Cheesy

A fact which is frequently used against them. i.e. Preorder game at $70 vs discounted to $30 a few weeks later.

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As a gamer I can tell you there is a lot of 'ready to go' vitriol when it comes to posting around forums.
I always thought gamers would be early adopters, but Ive seen on other websites too how much ignorance there is around BTC. So automatically they turn on the smugger than though, 'I can insult you better cos I know better' crap.
Even if the article includes a basic intro video it doesnt matter, they just love to express their dearest frustrations!
EG http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-12-11-microsoft-now-allows-you-to-buy-xbox-games-with-bitcoin

I dont think its anything to worry about, theyre very fickle and just enjoy the flaming really. Give it some time and they will calm down and find something else to 'hate on' and as BTC gets more integrated they'll flip to the defenders side and many will claim to have been defending it from the start lol.

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Quote from: malaimult on December 13, 2014, 06:33:46 PM

Quote from: teukon on December 12, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

Here we see one reason why a gamer in particular might harbour ill-feeling for Bitcoin. Over the past few years, miners have competed with gamers for graphics cards, pushing up prices in the short-term. Of course, gamers are not excluded from the general observation that almost all adults are completely clueless when it comes to basic economic principles. This simple case of supply and demand quickly drives the hapless individual to an absurd conclusion.

This comes in addition to the usual Bitcoin FUD. You'd think gamers might be more sensitive to baseless media spin given that gaming itself is often attacked in the media as "warping young minds" and "training killers".

Well after GPU mining was no longer profitable the prices for new cards likely declined to "pre GPU mining" levels. The price for used cards (that probably work just as well from a gamer's perspective) would be even lower. Over the long term it probably helped "gamers" more then it hurt them

Gamers possibly don't have the ability to think long term. Cheesy

Most of them may not even have realized that the prices of used cards has come down.

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People are resilient to new things or scared because they dont understand Bitcoin.

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Quote from: teukon on December 12, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

Here we see one reason why a gamer in particular might harbour ill-feeling for Bitcoin. Over the past few years, miners have competed with gamers for graphics cards, pushing up prices in the short-term. Of course, gamers are not excluded from the general observation that almost all adults are completely clueless when it comes to basic economic principles. This simple case of supply and demand quickly drives the hapless individual to an absurd conclusion.

This comes in addition to the usual Bitcoin FUD. You'd think gamers might be more sensitive to baseless media spin given that gaming itself is often attacked in the media as "warping young minds" and "training killers".

Well after GPU mining was no longer profitable the prices for new cards likely declined to "pre GPU mining" levels. The price for used cards (that probably work just as well from a gamer's perspective) would be even lower. Over the long term it probably helped "gamers" more then it hurt them

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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

The opinion of IGN posters, seriously? You care what a group of infants think that spend 50% of their time gaming and the other 50% of their time masturbating in the bathroom with a copy of their dads Playboy magazine?

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Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2014, 10:53:54 PM

Quote from: teukon on December 12, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

I know this is harsh but I don't think that most gamers have the intelligence to come to that conclusion from graphics card prices, especially when you consider their stupid arguments about AMD and Intel or the Xbox and Playstation.

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Quote from: smoothie on December 12, 2014, 06:44:35 PM

"but but but...... why use toilet paper when I have a good green leaf to wipe my ass?"

Grin

In all fairness that good green leaf could be poison sumac.

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Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2014, 10:53:54 PM

Quote from: teukon on December 12, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

Here we see one reason why a gamer in particular might harbour ill-feeling for Bitcoin. Over the past few years, miners have competed with gamers for graphics cards, pushing up prices in the short-term. Of course, gamers are not excluded from the general observation that almost all adults are completely clueless when it comes to basic economic principles. This simple case of supply and demand quickly drives the hapless individual to an absurd conclusion.

This comes in addition to the usual Bitcoin FUD. You'd think gamers might be more sensitive to baseless media spin given that gaming itself is often attacked in the media as "warping young minds" and "training killers".

This is actually a credible reason for gamers to be hostile to Bitcoin.
I was initially surprised by the reaction - I expected indifference, not hostility.
But if Bitcoin miners are pushing up the cost of graphics cards, then it is natural for gamers to be hostile. Grin

It's a very credible reason for them to be hostile, but they're weren't being hostile for that reason, as most of the stupid comments had nothing to do with mining, and more had to do with them believing Bitcoin to be fake money, like the monopoly money comment, and the comments saying farts are worth more, and the comment about making their own digital coin to pay for it.

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Quote from: teukon on December 12, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

Here we see one reason why a gamer in particular might harbour ill-feeling for Bitcoin. Over the past few years, miners have competed with gamers for graphics cards, pushing up prices in the short-term. Of course, gamers are not excluded from the general observation that almost all adults are completely clueless when it comes to basic economic principles. This simple case of supply and demand quickly drives the hapless individual to an absurd conclusion.

This comes in addition to the usual Bitcoin FUD. You'd think gamers might be more sensitive to baseless media spin given that gaming itself is often attacked in the media as "warping young minds" and "training killers".

This is actually a credible reason for gamers to be hostile to Bitcoin.
I was initially surprised by the reaction - I expected indifference, not hostility.
But if Bitcoin miners are pushing up the cost of graphics cards, then it is natural for gamers to be hostile. Grin

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A lot of hostility aka a lot of uneducated people making stupid jokes.

Shows how far Bitcoin still has to grow and how much it needs to educate people, so that it can become more mainstream.

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From the gamespot.com comments:

Quote from: Too-DementeD

... it can also have a real negative effect on actual legitimate currency.

Example. People were bulk-buying AMD GPUs using bitcoins, as they were cheap. What happened? AMD GPU prices in USD/GBP/whatever other REAL currency there are, skyrocketed. I'm sure that's great for AMD and bitcoin users, but it's bad for everyone else.

Here we see one reason why a gamer in particular might harbour ill-feeling for Bitcoin. Over the past few years, miners have competed with gamers for graphics cards, pushing up prices in the short-term. Of course, gamers are not excluded from the general observation that almost all adults are completely clueless when it comes to basic economic principles. This simple case of supply and demand quickly drives the hapless individual to an absurd conclusion.

This comes in addition to the usual Bitcoin FUD. You'd think gamers might be more sensitive to baseless media spin given that gaming itself is often attacked in the media as "warping young minds" and "training killers".

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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

"but but but...... why use toilet paper when I have a good green leaf to wipe my ass?"

Grin

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The people who make those kind of comments against Bitcoin really are just making stuff up, if people are stupid enough to believe them with all the information out there then that's their business, I've given up trying to argue with people who choose to live in an alternate reality and just make shit up, much easier to just mock them because they're so entertaining.

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The mental immune system kicks in with most people who are not receptive to new ideas. Everything about bitcoin is contrary to what they know about the world so they quickly reject it without thinking. We've invited them to the party but they don't think it will be any fun. Good buying opportunity for the smart. A transfer of wealth from the close-minded to the open-minded. Not a bad thing.

The bitcoin experiment is teaching us a lot about human nature.

I will never forget this Time magazine cover from 1995 : http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1995/1101950703_400.jpg

CYBERPORN - EXCLUSIVE: A new study shows how pervasive and wild it really is. Can we protect our kids--and free speech?

I was 13 at the time and on the Internet and I thought, "Wow, these people just don't get it." Actually I found the cover offensive. Same feeling I have now (although now I am not offended by these people, I just see them as ignorant). The sheep must follow, sad as it is. Back then the Internet was a scary thing. It took the average person awhile to catch on but now they are obsessed with it and carry it around in their pockets. Times change quickly and nobody ever looks back.

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Most buyers might be wondering about this:

If i can pay straight away with dollar and get the product shipped out, why would i be bothered to exchange the dollar to btc and then only make the purchase? That's another extra step in the process.

But it's okay. It goes a long way to convince people

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Quote from: cafucafucafu on December 11, 2014, 06:25:46 PM

I have been looking at the gaming websites to see what the reaction to the Microsoft news would be ... and it isn't good!

Have a look at IGN posters http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/11/you-can-now-pay-for-xbox-and-windows-content-with-bitcoin

Other forums have similar reactions. I think we have a lot of teaching to do.

I felt the same way before I actually learned about it. I just thought it was some digital token that you buy. I.e. nerd money. I didn't know anything about the Blockchain.

2 years ago i started some topics in big forums about BTC
guess what happend? all topics got closed ("ponzi","scam" etc)

we need more time for education

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People fear things to what they have never been introduced before. ANything new is bad for a lot of people.

But it doesn't affect the majority only people who use it so it shouldn't have struck up such a fuss.

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