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Topic: A mistery hidden in the Genesis Block - page 2. (Read 22862 times)

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August 28, 2013, 01:56:36 PM
#23
Sergio, if you are still around, have you investigated this anymore and if so what are your findings?
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April 14, 2013, 05:47:53 AM
#22
I think everyone can safely assume that he had access to a larger multiprocessor machine. His rationale might have been that the first block should be a bit "harder" than the consecutive ones. That's all.
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April 14, 2013, 04:06:27 AM
#21
Just cross your fingers ,  maybe it will bring good luck.
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bits of proof
April 12, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
#20
I suggested that perhaps he just left it running, saving the best result, while he did the final preparation for the release.

Didn't he need to mine both block 0 and block 1? And unless he knew the Times headline before it was printed, that means he mined 2 blocks within 6 days, right? Isn't that the point of the headline, to prove that he hadn't premined more than that?
This is an appealing explanation.

He wanted the headline in the genesis. He needed a few days to patch and run the client for a strong POW on it, then deleted the superfluous
 code and started over with block 1,2...
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April 12, 2013, 04:34:02 AM
#19
fef5386ffa462507127b3e315d46567d84858827cee2f8e102788e4064d255c1

RAmen!
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April 12, 2013, 02:41:02 AM
#18
Here is info on that address.  Looks like Satoshi was sending satoshis.

https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


Wow, people are paying homage to Satoshi by sending him bitcoins.  Bitcoin is now a religion.

sent my sacrificial Satoshi

good luck and or something.

fba606d3b48b66c52bb7e6597fe65c976d2da300ff57865c56c60b8840e9fa0b

fef5386ffa462507127b3e315d46567d84858827cee2f8e102788e4064d255c1
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PGP: 6EBEBCE1E0507C38
April 12, 2013, 02:04:06 AM
#17
Here is info on that address.  Looks like Satoshi was sending satoshis.

https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


Wow, people are paying homage to Satoshi by sending him bitcoins.  Bitcoin is now a religion.

sent my sacrificial Satoshi

good luck and or something.

fba606d3b48b66c52bb7e6597fe65c976d2da300ff57865c56c60b8840e9fa0b
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April 12, 2013, 01:47:57 AM
#16
..."By the seventh day Satoshi had finished the work He had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested his miner from all his work. And Satoshi blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it his miner rested [or ceased] from all the work of creating that he had done." (Bitcoin 2:2-3)
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April 11, 2013, 10:35:44 PM
#15


>>> d=int("00000000FFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",16)
>>> g=int("000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f",16)
>>> print (float(d)/float(g))
2536.42629845

The difficulty equivalent of the genesis hash is 2536.42629845

Looking up old hashing results:
AMD Phenom II X4 3GHz
Bitcoin Version 0.3 (Win 32-bit)
4 cores - 2300 khash/s

Difficulty: 2536.4263
Hash Rate: 2.30
Time to generate one block ~54.8 days

The genesis hasher could have been looking for just > difficulty 1, and it spit this lucky hash out, so Satoshi used it to show his awesomeness. He could have been changing the headline every day looking for a big small hash - being able to replace the genesis block would be the ultimate fork.
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April 10, 2013, 10:41:49 AM
#14
Interesting, thanks Sergio.

Knowing how Satoshi operated it was unlikely to be a genuinely separate application. More likely it was just a hacked up version of the app. He wasn't big into modularity or internal APIs.
pc
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April 10, 2013, 09:53:55 AM
#13
I suggested that perhaps he just left it running, saving the best result, while he did the final preparation for the release.

Didn't he need to mine both block 0 and block 1? And unless he knew the Times headline before it was printed, that means he mined 2 blocks within 6 days, right? Isn't that the point of the headline, to prove that he hadn't premined more than that?
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Reverse engineer from time to time
April 10, 2013, 07:36:25 AM
#12
I would really appreciate if my question on the genesis block is also answered https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1782000

I basically ask in the thread how it's made, and how one could also create a genesis block from scratch.
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April 10, 2013, 07:19:57 AM
#11
wow, this makes an interesting story. SDL always comes up with all kinds of in-depth bitcoin knowledge.

that makes me think -> SDL==SN
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April 10, 2013, 06:19:45 AM
#10
Isn't time a variable of the block header to be hashed? If yes, after 2^32 calculation the header changes, and a new round of nonces makes sense.

Other option: after an unsuccess round, he could try a transaction to a different address, so the header also changed.
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April 10, 2013, 02:06:42 AM
#9
Since the genesis block was generated with some external code it may well have been rolling the public key... Even with valid ones— though the output of block 0 is not spendable in any case.

I was aware of the suspiciously high difficulty... and when Bluematt last brought it up in #bitcoin-dev I suggested that perhaps he just left it running, saving the best result, while he did the final preparation for the release.
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April 10, 2013, 01:57:28 AM
#8
"Let there be Bitcoin!
....
By the seventh day Satoshi had finished the work He had been doing; so on the seventh day He rested from all His work."
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División de Poderes s.XXI es Descentralización
April 10, 2013, 01:44:53 AM
#7
"Genesis Block" makes a great title for such a novel.

Could have computed that hash on a powerful computer, maybe in his University Campus, or rented computers in Amazon EC2. But why such a difficulty?
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No Maps for These Territories
April 10, 2013, 12:43:01 AM
#6
Amusing write-up! maybe you should write a mystery novel a la Dan Brown Smiley
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April 10, 2013, 12:33:29 AM
#5
Here is info on that address.  Looks like Satoshi was sending satoshis.

https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


Wow, people are paying homage to Satoshi by sending him bitcoins.  Bitcoin is now a religion.
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April 10, 2013, 12:15:55 AM
#4
Sounds interesting. Can you explain for non-techies? For example, perhaps he performed this procedure multiple times.
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