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July 03, 2013, 10:56:56 AM
#94
Considering the producing foundry, producing partners, technology used (65 nm) and order size 1.05 million units I have to say that if the screencap is accurate (and I believe it to be) we could be taking about at least 8.000 TH.

No matter the end user this is a damn significant amount of possible hash rate. Of course, more info would babe great.

I do however not believe anyone needs to worry about a 51% attack. With only projected hash rate by year end from KNC, BFL (without ramping up production speed), Bitfury and already sold Avalon chips + ASICMINER we are prob looking at a network hash OVER 20 Petahash by year end anyway. And I consider that a low estimate.

Could you perhaps elaborate on that?  Huh I don't know how that can be a low estimate, the estimates I have seen so far are 1000 TH by fall and maybe 2000-3000 TH by year end. To me 20000 TH sounds a bit much, not on the low end. But perhaps I have less information than you do on the quantities of chips that are supposed to be out there in the wild by year end.

You do the math:

100s of KNC 400 gh/s miners
At least 340 Bitfury 120 gh/s miners
1000s of 5-60 gh/s BFL miners
100+ orders of 10k Avalon 300mh/s chips

If at least 50% of these miners/chips deliver.. Well... You can see for yourself

sr. member
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July 03, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
#93
Seems these chips might be born with non zero counter party risk due to non-disclosure agreement violations.

Interesting nonetheless.
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July 03, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
#92
Considering the producing foundry, producing partners, technology used (65 nm) and order size 1.05 million units I have to say that if the screencap is accurate (and I believe it to be) we could be taking about at least 8.000 TH.

No matter the end user this is a damn significant amount of possible hash rate. Of course, more info would babe great.

I do however not believe anyone needs to worry about a 51% attack. With only projected hash rate by year end from KNC, BFL (without ramping up production speed), Bitfury and already sold Avalon chips + ASICMINER we are prob looking at a network hash OVER 20 Petahash by year end anyway. And I consider that a low estimate.

Could you perhaps elaborate on that?  Huh I don't know how that can be a low estimate, the estimates I have seen so far are 1000 TH by fall and maybe 2000-3000 TH by year end. To me 20000 TH sounds a bit much, not on the low end. But perhaps I have less information than you do on the quantities of chips that are supposed to be out there in the wild by year end.
legendary
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Away on an extended break
July 03, 2013, 10:38:51 AM
#91
I confirm that greaterninja does indeed seem to work in the IC industry. (via a company email I confirmed)
He has requested that I confirm there are at least 3, IC companies involved, but at the request of the OP, that information is confidential.

Thanks,
John
sr. member
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July 03, 2013, 10:10:08 AM
#90
RESERVED

What's up with you, greaterninja? You've been acting very RESERVED lately?
full member
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July 03, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
#89
Probably the twins.

I guess they're more trustworthy than Vleisides.

Those guys try to be in the centre of attention, I doubt they would allow this kind of shoddy pr. How big is the company in terms of revenue?

The production contract states only manufacturing parties, the end-customer is listed as 'non disclosed'.
hero member
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July 03, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
#88
Probably the twins.

I guess they're more trustworthy than Vleisides.

Those guys try to be in the centre of attention, I doubt they would allow this kind of shoddy pr. How big is the company in terms of revenue?
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
#87
Probably the twins.

I guess they're more trustworthy than Vleisides.
full member
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July 03, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
#86
Considering the producing foundry, producing partners, technology used (65 nm) and order size in the millions of units I have to say that if the screencap is accurate (and I believe it to be) we could be taking about at least 1000s of TH.

No matter the end user this is a damn significant amount of possible hash rate. Of course, more info would babe great.

I do however not believe anyone needs to worry about a 51% attack. With only projected hash rate by year end from KNC, BFL (without ramping up production speed), Bitfury and already sold Avalon chips + ASICMINER we are prob looking at a network hash OVER 20 Petahash by year end anyway. And I consider that a low estimate.
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July 03, 2013, 07:28:18 AM
#85
Wait....... Wink
hero member
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July 03, 2013, 06:18:28 AM
#84
Now if you had come along as said the end-user is a government department, or a bank, or Paypal then that would be a real story.   .
legendary
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July 03, 2013, 06:14:17 AM
#83
5 pages already with no real useful information. Ok someone just made a 1 mil custom ASIC chips order. We don't know the lead time, we don't know if the chip is working as intended etc. Miners need prices, time and performance. If you want to stop pre-orders from the other companies then give us more information.
hero member
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July 03, 2013, 03:35:26 AM
#82
65nm asic,

I am not asking for pre-orders or money.   I am Just letting the community know that  a MASSIVE volume has been ordered.  The order is not mine either so don't ask me if I will sell you chips or units Cheesy.  I'm just a worker bee in the bee-hive.

65 mm² Rain Drop,

I am not asking for pre-orders or money. I am just letting the community know that a MASSIVE rain shower has been forcasted. The water is not mine either so don't ask me if I will sell you umbrellas or rain coats Cheesy. I'm just another clown from a random circus.

GO HOME!!! Come back with some real news and don't waste everybody's lifetime!
hero member
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July 03, 2013, 03:23:40 AM
#81
Oh man.. projects like these are going to push the difficulty 200M+ within one year :|

Dude 200M Difficulty is loooong gone within a year!!
newbie
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July 03, 2013, 02:49:48 AM
#80
This reminds me of Daytrading.

Put in a huge order to drive up price then sell. Grin Foundry Bear Trap.

full member
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July 02, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
#79
1m BFL chips is 4000 TH/s ... someone planning a 95% attack?


I have to wonder who is going to buy all these units? Perhaps it is just me but personally I have reached the point of near saturation regarding new ASIC announcements. Everyone and their mother are now ASIC sellers. If this actually happens I think they'll have a hard time selling all that capacity simply because most of us do not have unlimited funds/space to host all these machines and a million chips can mean an awful lot of them. Although, I could just be underestimating the number of people willing to buy ASICs... in my mind the interest will decrease when difficulty will be such that ROI becomes a matter of months (might happen in the next few months).
hero member
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July 02, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
#78
obviously you have time to waste

pot meet kettle.
hero member
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July 02, 2013, 09:35:01 PM
#77
Seriously, why not wait till you can announce it and give real details instead of wasting our time. I wouldn't really want to deal with a company does stuff like this so half-assed anyways. Seems like BFL all over again.

obviously you have time to waste...secondly I am not selling chips like i said.
adi
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July 02, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
#76
Oh man.. projects like these are going to push the difficulty 200M+ within one year :|
hero member
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July 02, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
#75
who the **** cares?  Give us the details or just go away.

what is the point of this thread.

To treat person to 65nm 1TH with civility.  Why no look to horizon?
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