Topic: A new Russian-Finnish war is coming - page 2. (Read 425 times)

^^^ I'm sure that the expansion of Nato causes Putin and the Russian leaders to change strategies a little. But the reasons why Russia entered Ukraine are basically two, and the Nato problem is not one of them. The two basic reasons:

1. Since 2014 the Ukraine government has been attacking Russians in the Donbas and Donetsk areas, even though these Russians were Ukrainians as well, and even though non-Russian Ukrainians were being attacked and killed at the same time.

2. Putin was maintaining a corridor to the Black Sea, as a strategic route.

Does Russia have the ability to war against Finland? Yes, easily. Poland and other nearby nations are simply trusting that Russia is not going to attack them. So, they are not ready to fight Russia, just like Finland is not ready.

The point? Russia is not in aggressive war mode. She is simply protecting her own in Ukraine... a police action like the US has been doing around the world for decades. It was Ukraine that started their war with Russia back in 2014. Russia simply responded in 2022, after trying to find ways to peace without military action for years. But Ukraine wouldn't accept peace. They showed they didn't want peace by their 2014 military activities in Donetsk.


Russian Cruise Missile Entered Polish Airspace During 'Massive' Missile Attack On Ukraine

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-cruise-missile-entered-polish-airspace-during-massive-missile-attack-ukraine
Ukraine's military said it was able to intercept 18 of the missiles and 25 drones, but significantly one of the Russian cruise missiles reportedly breached Polish airspace while en route, causing Warsaw to demand answers.

Poland scrambled NATO F-16 jets in response to the breach which it said occurred at about 4:40am near the village of Oserdów on the Polish-Ukraine border.

"The object flew into Polish [air]space near the village of Oserdow (Lublin Voivodeship) and spent 39 seconds in it," Poland's Operational Command said. "It was observed by military radar systems throughout its flight." Over half a minute is a very significant amount of time for a cruise missile to spend over Poland.

Poland's Defense Minister W?adys?aw Kosiniak-Kamysz told reporters in a briefing, "As last night's rocket attack on Ukraine was one of the most intense since the beginning of the Russian aggression, all the strategic procedures were launched on time and the object was monitored until it left the Polish air space."

The incident occurred as other Russian missiles were raining down around the city of Lviv in western Ukraine, and the missile entered up to about one or two kilometers inside Poland, Kosiniak-Kamysz said.

The defense ministry in follow-up stated, "Above all, we call on the Russian Federation to stop the terrorist air attacks on the inhabitants and territory of Ukraine, end the war, and address the country's internal problems."

Since the war began there's been a few similar incidents of an errant missile entering Poland. In one of the most notable, which occurred in November 2022, it was later determined that a stray Ukrainian anti-air missile hit a Polish border village, tragically killing two people.
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  Of course, Putin will not start a war with Finland. I wrote this article to show Putin's lie that he started a war with Ukraine because it was going to become a member of NATO, and in this case its missiles could reach Moscow. But today, due to the fact that Finland is a member of NATO and is much closer from it to Moscow and St. Petersburg, he does not start a war with the Finns, because Finland was not part of his annexation plans, unlike Ukraine.

A new Russian-Finnish war is coming


The only really bad thing about this is, Russia should finnish the war with Ukraine by finnishing them off, before they start another one with Finland.

War may be the last way to resolve conflicts whether verbal or other power, so far this heroic action is very disturbing to my viewer if there is this kind of aggression. too idealistic to seize and defend. the fact is that after death there is a waste. I think Russia is crucial, and what is its goal after victory. civilians need their right to enjoy life and walk as usual. Russia faces the Nato alliance and is it not very risky? yes of course the strength will be so different even though Russia has many spare soldiers.

If there can be a no petition, I will choose not to support the war, bloodshed is an action that cannot be justified, because in conditions of war both parties will feel right and feel their rights.

Not only in this year but in years to come and the rhetoric of the many so called analysts that say they can invade other countries assuming Ukraine is already gone is completely wrong.They rely this argument on the fact that the EU and US support for Ukraine is not at the expected levels yet they have not call it a day and they are not backing off,they are supporting Ukraine for as long as it takes and this only has a tall on the Russian army and economy.

In 2000 and 2002 we have seen terror acts like that on the Crocus City Hall and it is well known tactic from Russia to wage war against Chechnya at that time in 2002 to justify that war,now they want to do the same thing with Ukraine but won't work as ISIS took claim of the terror act.

Meaning what? Shoot himself in the head? That would be the right thing to do.


After reading about the history of Finland I really started to like you as a nation. I feel like you've been mistreated for your actions in the WW2.
IMO Putin has no chance against NATO and you have nothing to worry about. Finland will not be taken in the next 10 years. I won't say anything about another decade, because if Russia gets support from China and they both invade a country, that country won't stand a chance, but until then Finland will have time to get nukes, so I hope you do.

Now you are basically mimicking Russian propaganda. I mean you are using same reasoning they will be using to justify an attack. Putin had reasons to go to war with us before that, as Finland is one of those "Lenin's mistakes" putin wants to fix.

Before 2014 we (Finland) had semi-good relationship with Russia, but starting from 2014 with the invasion of Krim, relationship with Russia started to decline, and in 2022 it ended.

We knew threat was a possibility as we have been already preparing for it over 70 years by building unbreakable supply chains and huge bunkers. But even though we were preparing, we didn't want to believe Putin would be this crazy, and in 2022, majority of our minds about nato were changed in one day. Before this, majorty of Finnish people didn't want to join into it. We saw a time window to join because we knew russia wouldn't have 2 wars at once. That would have been harder for Putin to justify, as they didn't have build enough propaganda against us yet. (They have been slowly doing that though)

We joined to nato because they saw Russia as a direct threat. We joined to prevent the war as we know Russia haven't attacked to any nato country for a reason.

Before invading Finland, they will try to shake nato alliance in every way they can but if nato holds together, i can't see why would Russia would risk it.

I don't think Russia can engage in any new major wars right now until the conflict with Ukraine is resolved. They have invested significant time and resources, yet they haven't been able to achieve victory over Ukraine. Ukraine, with continued support from the West, remains resilient. While Russia is a formidable country, given the current circumstances, I doubt we will see any new conflicts initiated by them this year.

No doubt Russia is mightier and capable of repeating the same thing but not at the moment and be it any country regardless of it's millitary power can afford to indulge in war or conflicts at multiple fronts hence I don't think Russia will be indulging into any further conflicts and already they are involved in Syrian conflicts hence it would be a red flag.

Russia should stay away from any further conflicts else we would see repeat of USSR collapse wherein they may lose territory regions like Dagestan and Chechnya.

What you say means an effective NATO - Ruzzian war, as Finland and Sweeden are NATO members. I would like to know, in your view, what would be Putin's incentives to try to invade a country that is fully reactive to his regime (politically incompatible), backed up by article five on NATO and owner of quite a decent army of its own. Also, has a common defence policy with Sweden an Norway.

Waiting here for your view on what is in Putin's head on that regard...

Anyway, I don't hope history will repeat itself and we'll have another new war. Conflicts on a global scale are becoming more and more tense as there are many areas in conflict, and if this time Russia and Finland go to war, I think the supporting or opposing sides will really be far away from each other war for a long time. I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding the war, but it seems like some things are cooling off because the attention in the near future will be related to election politics, and perhaps the wars that are brewing will be hard to come by happen early.

@swogerino is right, Finland won't be an easy campaign if Russia ever plans to invade because of that very fact that they've got that record of not yielding any territory to them not to mention that Russia can't probably afford any kind of split in this campaign against Ukraine and it's going to be a mistake for Putin or the Kremlin to even do so because they don't know what's going to happen next, Finland is a member of the EU right? Wouldn't this be a big thing for EU if Russia also starts doing offensive on them? I hope that this is true though, that Russia wouldn't push through any plans against Finland because the more players involved in this war, the more it's likely that we're going to see the doomsday clock get to the last minutes to midnight.

I agree. Even though Putin claimed that he wouldn't tolerate NATO within their borders, I don't think they're capable of waging another war, especially against Finland, which is a wealthy country. The Ukrainian-Russian war has been going on for over two years now, and it's not expected to end anytime soon.

Russia cannot afford another war; they've suffered many casualties and certainly a great deal of financial strain on their economy. I don't think they're going to go for a NATO country; Ukraine isn't in NATO and is a much poorer nation than Finland. They were expecting to conquer the whole country in a matter of a few weeks, but they were ultimately met with huge resistance due to the support from the EU and USA.

I hope that Putin does the right thing.

I highly doubt that Russia is capable of wagering a new war considering that over 2 years have not yield to them any significant result in Ukraine and Ukraine is still standing strong.Russia called a lot of reservists in September 2022 which about 50-60% of them has gone as cannon fodder so far having lost their lives or being heavily wounded from the reports we are seeing from this war.Russian army is very much weakened and their desperation is being shown everyday when they hit civilian infrastructure and kill some low number of civilians rather than hitting at military targets.The Finns now are part of NATO and Russia is not stupid to wage war against a NATO country while their army to be in a very weak state.Russia need at least 30-40 years to be able to recover the losses in manpower and military devices in Ukrainian war.

Alik Bakhshi

A new Russian-Finnish war is coming

        The Russian-Finnish War of 1939-1940 began with an ultimatum from Moscow to transfer part of the territory of Finland to the USSR, namely the Korel Isthmus and islands in the Gulf of Finland in order to ensure the security of Leningrad. In other words, the Finns recklessly placed their country too close to the city of revolutionary glory, which the insidious Finns could subject to artillery fire. As a result of the war, the Finns lost 10% of their territory and Vyborg, the second largest city in Finland. Today the threat from Finland has returned again, which, having become a NATO member, has the opportunity to fire at the same city, now St. Petersburg, with NATO missiles. Due to the fact that the threat situation has returned, we must expect a new ultimatum for the Finns to move the border beyond the flight time, that is, to move the country to the ice of the Arctic Ocean, otherwise they will suffer the same fate as Ukraine.

       03/22/2024