A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win - page 9.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on May 25, 2023, 03:38:12 PM

Interesting, the article didn't mention the financial status of the family either they are too rich so they don't need the money or simply due to religious beliefs but I am surprised with the action of boy he bring the money to his family not used in a wrong way or simply wanted to gamble further with that money.

A smart trick to the boy, simply buy Bitcoin with that money and wait for the future to show you the real growth.

I don't think that you can be so rich to reject that kind of money, especially in Nigeria. Maybe millionaires in USD terms, not in Nigerian currency, could actually reject it and live good, but even if you're far above the average income in the country, that should be huge money for you. A life changing sum of money.
How much he'd be able to improve his life, or the life of his whole family? Probably by a lot.

If you don't want the money for yourself, do something good for others. Help your neighbors, put it in a school fund for your child, or in a savings account so that your kid doesn't have to beg anyone for money when he makes bad choices in life. Don't throw it away or give it back to the casino.

If I were the kid and my father said that the money won't enter his house, I'd agree with him and put it in the bank Cheesy

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Interesting, the article didn't mention the financial status of the family either they are too rich so they don't need the money or simply due to religious beliefs but I am surprised with the action of boy he bring the money to his family not used in a wrong way or simply wanted to gamble further with that money.

A smart trick to the boy, simply buy Bitcoin with that money and wait for the future to show you the real growth.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

It depends on the actual perspective.
There is nothing wrong with gambling money in this case, but indeed for some people something like this will definitely cause controversy, especially for those related to spirituality and belief.
In some conditions, in my area, this kind of thing still happens a lot because parents believe that money from gambling, which is actually not allowed, according to them, has no benefits, which actually creates a condition where we get bad luck in the end.
It may happen to the father though in this case he may need it but he has a degree of discipline for gambling money because he may not gamble either.
Regardless of right or wrong, everyone has their own views on this matter and indeed we also cannot justify or blame the father's determination to refuse the money because he has his own commitments.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.
How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

Well, we can't judge how the father would react maybe he dislike the fact that his son is into gambling. We have different views on gambling and maybe the father doesn't really like gambling and whatever his son or any family member brings to the table related to gambling is unacceptable.

We rarely see some individuals like this that hangs onto that pride, maybe it will be good if the son just respect that decision of his father so it wouldn't escalate to some serious issues. I feel sorry for him but he won't be able to change that fact.

Yes, it is. We only know that his father didn't want the money in his house because it was made from gambling. And it seems that his son really has to return all the winning money to gambling because of the father's reaction rather than the child's not being able to return home. If the son respects his father, he will obey his father and never gamble again because his father will be against it. And indeed, it is better to obey his parents than regret for the rest of his life because he refused his father's request.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.

How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

Not everybody has the strength to reject or decline a cold hard cash especially if we're talking about $82 Grand because no matter how rich they are, that kind of money will surely be a big help for the whole family, but this father is different and he got pride as well. Anyway, there might be a factor why the father chose to decline his son's winnings and there's a chance that their family is a Muslim where gambling is not very well accepted as that is against their beliefs, and declining the cash might be his way to teach his son that it's not acceptable in their culture.

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I am not sure about this story. There are too many loose ends. First of all, if the boy is minor then he can't receive the winnings. He is under 18 years of age and that is against the terms and conditions (he claims to be 19-years old, but that is debatable). In such case, the game will be declared as invalid and the winning will be nullified. So even if his father accepts the win, they are not going to get anything. And secondly, is it even possible to have a 100,000x bet? I have seen bets up to 1,000x, but anything more than that exists only in folklore.

This is what I thought after reading the article written by Strongkored the article replies incomplete and just says the boy bets on sports betting.
If realistically calculated $0.87 getting an $83k win is like getting a 100,000x multiplier as you mentioned and Strongkored has also said if this is done on sports betting for sure the guy is using a multi bet picking some favored clubs.
But what I'm still thinking about right now is how many clubs have been chosen so that I can get very high odds equivalent to 100,000x.
It's a little difficult to understand whether this story is just fictional or real but for me it seems unreal.

Most of the sportsbooks have a limit on maximum winnings, such as 100x or 200x. There was an incident in the United States where one of the gamblers won 10,000x or something, but the casino refused the payout saying that as per their terms and conditions the maximum payout is 100x and anything above that results from machine malfunction. And the winner filed a lawsuit against the casino, but in the end the judges ruled that the casino doesn't have to pay any of the winnings to the participant. I guess the same will happen in this case.

It is possible that this case can occur in other gambling systems. However the system will definitely have a bug. and according to the written terms and conditions, the gambling party does not need to make a 10,000x winning payment and the maximum is only on the written terms and conditions.
Online gambling sites must really check several systems thoroughly to overcome various bugs that will occur.

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Quote from: klidex on May 25, 2023, 07:57:51 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 25, 2023, 03:35:15 AM

I am not sure about this story. There are too many loose ends. First of all, if the boy is minor then he can't receive the winnings. He is under 18 years of age and that is against the terms and conditions (he claims to be 19-years old, but that is debatable). In such case, the game will be declared as invalid and the winning will be nullified. So even if his father accepts the win, they are not going to get anything. And secondly, is it even possible to have a 100,000x bet? I have seen bets up to 1,000x, but anything more than that exists only in folklore.

This is what I thought after reading the article written by Strongkored the article replies incomplete and just says the boy bets on sports betting.
If realistically calculated $0.87 getting an $83k win is like getting a 100,000x multiplier as you mentioned and Strongkored has also said if this is done on sports betting for sure the guy is using a multi bet picking some favored clubs.
But what I'm still thinking about right now is how many clubs have been chosen so that I can get very high odds equivalent to 100,000x.
It's a little difficult to understand whether this story is just fictional or real but for me it seems unreal.

Most of the sportsbooks have a limit on maximum winnings, such as 100x or 200x. There was an incident in the United States where one of the gamblers won 10,000x or something, but the casino refused the payout saying that as per their terms and conditions the maximum payout is 100x and anything above that results from machine malfunction. And the winner filed a lawsuit against the casino, but in the end the judges ruled that the casino doesn't have to pay any of the winnings to the participant. I guess the same will happen in this case.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.

Is gambling bad? it depends on the person looking at it and from which point of view he takes reference from his point of view. If someone is looking at it from a strong religious background, surely gambling is a bad thing (regardless of winning or losing). But for me personally, gambling is an entertainment and a medium to prove how strong my intuition is. We shouldn't have to see a long discussion on this topic, because it's just about stances and points of view.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.
How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

Well, we can't judge how the father would react maybe he dislike the fact that his son is into gambling. We have different views on gambling and maybe the father doesn't really like gambling and whatever his son or any family member brings to the table related to gambling is unacceptable.

We rarely see some individuals like this that hangs onto that pride, maybe it will be good if the son just respect that decision of his father so it wouldn't escalate to some serious issues. I feel sorry for him but he won't be able to change that fact.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 24, 2023, 06:12:01 PM

This isn't about whether the father is right or not. This is about the father trying to save the future of his son. A male child who is living with his parents and is into gambling may still be less than eighteen and that is underaged betting. Imagine if this boy starts gambling at this age what belongs of him and his future. He should be out there learning a skill or acquiring some education that will improve his odds at succeeding in life and not the meagre money he has won from sports betting.

The only reason the child was gambling is because the father isn't financially strong so as the child came back with such money, why didn't the father use the money to further the childs education. He would had punished him by not allowing him to have access to the money.

There are different ways to handle this situation, he could have also given the child some conditions before he can have access to the money. Like he should finish university, get a good grade or he won't have access to the money. He could have turned the money into a will.

He wouldn't used the money so the boy will understand the message from the father but not to throw away that huge amount. What if that was how God wanted to secure the boys future and that of the family. If betting isn't against their religion he shouldn't have rejected the money.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 25, 2023, 03:35:15 AM

I am not sure about this story. There are too many loose ends. First of all, if the boy is minor then he can't receive the winnings. He is under 18 years of age and that is against the terms and conditions (he claims to be 19-years old, but that is debatable). In such case, the game will be declared as invalid and the winning will be nullified. So even if his father accepts the win, they are not going to get anything. And secondly, is it even possible to have a 100,000x bet? I have seen bets up to 1,000x, but anything more than that exists only in folklore.

This is what I thought after reading the article written by Strongkored the article replies incomplete and just says the boy bets on sports betting.
If realistically calculated $0.87 getting an $83k win is like getting a 100,000x multiplier as you mentioned and Strongkored has also said if this is done on sports betting for sure the guy is using a multi bet picking some favored clubs.
But what I'm still thinking about right now is how many clubs have been chosen so that I can get very high odds equivalent to 100,000x.
It's a little difficult to understand whether this story is just fictional or real but for me it seems unreal.

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I am not sure about this story. There are too many loose ends. First of all, if the boy is minor then he can't receive the winnings. He is under 18 years of age and that is against the terms and conditions (he claims to be 19-years old, but that is debatable). In such case, the game will be declared as invalid and the winning will be nullified. So even if his father accepts the win, they are not going to get anything. And secondly, is it even possible to have a 100,000x bet? I have seen bets up to 1,000x, but anything more than that exists only in folklore.

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Quote from: Poker Player on May 24, 2023, 11:31:17 PM

Quote from: GxSTxV on May 24, 2023, 05:55:36 PM

I am certain that the father is very religious to let off that much money especially that this incident happened in Nigeria.

Yes, I think there is a consensus in the thread about this. Anyway, the boy has enough money to live on his own for a good period of time, especially considering that in Nigeria the cost of living must be cheaper and that $82K could last him quite a while. What I don't see is any reference to the boy's age and whether he could legally emancipate himself in the country. Because if not, I don't know what option the boy has left. Maybe bury the money somewhere hidden so he'll let him in the house.

Op just gave a picture and I tried to find it on the internet and here is the full link about the news
https://www.legit.ng/people/family-relationship/1535831-i-dont-sports-betting-19-year-wins-n38-million-n400-father-asks-return-money/,

so he can be said to be a mature man because he is 19 years old which means he is old enough to start his own life apart from his parents using the money he got from gambling, and he belongs to a poor family because in the news it is also stated that he needs money to pay the rent which is due soon, but it seems that his belief in religion dominates his father's heart and mind.
My only curiosity is, he won 38 million Naira just by betting 400 Naira in sports betting, meaning it has to be at a huge number of odds, if it's a parlay bet then the number of matches he chooses must be quite a lot with big odds to mean's he betting much on underdogs team or athletes
unfortunately, it's not complete news so there's not much to explore, because sometimes stories like fairy tales appear on the internet so maybe this is just an imaginary story not real stroy.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

A boy won #38,000,000 ($82340.19) with just #400 ($0.87) and when the boy brought home his win, the biological father of the boy rejected the money because it was gotten from gambling. So that makes me to think how people look or see or think of gambling. Is gambling a bad thing to do? As for me gambling is not a bad something but the individual can be bad and also the way you present yourself in the society can also tell people about your personality.

How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

If they are residents of Nigeria, they will probably be Muslims and gambling is completely haram for Muslims and any earnings from gambling will be considered haram earnings. The extra profit made in gambling where only 87 cents earned over $87k in profit is considered haram in the eyes of Islam. His father referred to this income as gambling income in the family ,Won't accept earnings. So he requested the company to refund the gambling money. In this case, I would say that he has done a good job as a father because he has been able to properly evaluate the instructions given in Islam. So as a father I consider him to be ideal and as a son he decided to pay back the gambling company which is also considered an ideal behavior.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on May 24, 2023, 07:16:36 PM

I don't see any positive message that the dad passed here, rather he just makes the boy's condition worst since he will have to spend such a huge amount of money outside with strangers.

The father could have suited a better way to solve this issue, instead of chasing the boy away, because for me, the boy has done ok to have returned ned home with his bounty rewards.

Indeed, there was no positive message given by the father, but at least we can conclude that the father did not want his son to make money from gambling, maybe because the father had a bad perception of gambling, so he indirectly forbade his son not to gamble.
Spending money outside like what do you mean?
What is clear is that the child gave the money to the father even though he refused but I'm sure he will still use the money for his family, such as opening a business or repairing a place to live and even buying a house.

It seems like the boy didn't really get kicked out by the father because after all a child is still the responsibility of the parents.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on May 24, 2023, 05:55:36 PM

I am certain that the father is very religious to let off that much money especially that this incident happened in Nigeria.

Yes, I think there is a consensus in the thread about this. Anyway, the boy has enough money to live on his own for a good period of time, especially considering that in Nigeria the cost of living must be cheaper and that $82K could last him quite a while. What I don't see is any reference to the boy's age and whether he could legally emancipate himself in the country. Because if not, I don't know what option the boy has left. Maybe bury the money somewhere hidden so he'll let him in the house.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 24, 2023, 06:12:01 PM

This isn't about whether the father is right or not. This is about the father trying to save the future of his son. A male child who is living with his parents and is into gambling may still be less than eighteen and that is underaged betting. Imagine if this boy starts gambling at this age what belongs of him and his future. He should be out there learning a skill or acquiring some education that will improve his odds at succeeding in life and not the meagre money he has won from sports betting.

I think is this case the boy situation is more or less a blessing to the father rather than a cause this is so because the not many young people are lucky to hit such jack pot that can change the story of. Their family if the family is. From an average class, 30 millions in naira is good some of money that could transffothe fsmily status, so it is unwise of the father to have acted that way and this could possible lead to more danger for the family since the boy could turn to strangers for advice and that could lead him into my gbling.

But if the family raly around him the boy in no time he could possibly make the right investment plans and make use of the money properly.

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If the dad didn't do that, then he would have passed a message to his son that it okay to gamble and waste his time at a betshop when he knows that he should be out there chasing his dreams. Great parenting if you ask me.

I don't see any positive message that the dad passed here, rather he just makes the boy's condition worst since he will have to spend such a huge amount of money outside with strangers.

The father could have suited a better way to solve this issue, instead of chasing the boy away, because for me, the boy has done ok to have returned ned home with his bounty rewards.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on May 23, 2023, 12:58:06 PM

How do you see the father? Was he right by rejecting the son gambling win?

This isn't about whether the father is right or not. This is about the father trying to save the future of his son. A male child who is living with his parents and is into gambling may still be less than eighteen and that is underaged betting. Imagine if this boy starts gambling at this age what belongs of him and his future. He should be out there learning a skill or acquiring some education that will improve his odds at succeeding in life and not the meagre money he has won from sports betting.

If the dad didn't do that, then he would have passed a message to his son that it okay to gamble and waste his time at a betshop when he knows that he should be out there chasing his dreams. Great parenting if you ask me.

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Quote from: bittraffic on May 23, 2023, 01:10:27 PM

Father must have money and can provide for his family. He Wouldn't act that way if they don't have enough. Or maybe the father is really a disciplinarian and wanted the boy to stop gambling as well.

A boy having that much in Nigeria can live a life on his own afaik. Fathers can see where this boy is heading and he'll have a say in the family which a father will not like.

I am certain that the father is very religious to let off that much money especially that this incident happened in Nigeria. Even if he cannot provide enough for his family or even if they are facing financial difficulties, he wouldn’t accept that money because it is forbidden in his religion. I know many people who would do the same thing as I grew up in a religious family and community and I completely understand that father.

Now it is up to the boy whether he wants to heed his dad's words and continue living in his house, or start his own life and accept that money. Personally I would forget about the gambling money since it wasnt earned through hard work or anything productive. I would prioritize maintaining a strong relationship with my father no matter what.

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Quote from: RILWAN on May 24, 2023, 05:29:25 PM

Don't worry let the boy in question go ahead and keep enjoying his reward and he should make sure to make a good investment with the rewards, and he should watch how the father will run back to beg for forgiveness because it is quite unfair if the father could treat the boy that way without taking time to understand what the boy has gone through to win such an amount.

That winning can totally change their lives but their solid faith and belief, I think he should already know how to live alone away from his family. Sooner or later his family will accept it especially if he is already winning in life. I believe that winning can be a good start for a better life, he should be able to grow it more and have a good businesses to make more profit. His father is just being conservative about their belief and we can’t do anything about this but to respect it, winning in gambling might not be ok to many but once you won, you have to know how to spend it well.

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