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legendary
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November 29, 2018, 11:13:59 PM
#9
and if this has a 1% chance of happening you are still risking , so why not be a believer and a good person? not trying to make you believe in God i just need a reasonable reason for the risk you taking !

Because the real odds of it happening are more or less about as likely as person solving a the next BTC block mining with a pencil and paper and 3rd grade math skills.

If the odds were even remotely close to 1% you would have an actual point.

well anything above 0 counts. talk about solving the next block

https://bsod.pw/?address=LXfbiVroAdifcm4dWcT3gX79Gap2hahC21

i just found a litecoin block with a useless L3 in less than a week, what are the odds?  Grin Grin probably much lower than the existence of God . so i have an actual point Cheesy .
 
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 11:00:50 PM
#8
and if this has a 1% chance of happening you are still risking , so why not be a believer and a good person? not trying to make you believe in God i just need a reasonable reason for the risk you taking !

Because the real odds of it happening are more or less about as likely as person solving the next BTC block mining with a pencil and paper and 3rd grade math skills.

If the odds were even remotely close to 1% you would have an actual point.
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 10:13:14 PM
#7

Problem with your logic is that you don't know which one of the 3000+ Gods to believe.  You are probably wrong picking your God in which case you will burn in hell (if there is a God that created hell for people so that he can watch them suffer for eternity :-) )

Another option is that there is a God and nothing happens after you die, i.e. simulation is over and the atoms in your body are recycled to create something else.

So there could be two different options:

1. There is no God, i.e. nothing happens after you die.
2. There is God, nothing happens after you die.  God does not give a fuck about this insignificant planet in the middle of nowhere.

I am pretty sure God concept was invented by insecure, ignorant people to make themselves feel better.  So I would not worry about these childish stories.  Pick option #1 and enjoy your life.  You only got one life to live.


The concept of believing in God is the same, it's only that different people imagine God to be something different from the others, but we are not here to argue about this. but for the sake of your argument, even if i had 1 in 3000+ chance to be saved from a something that has the smallest chance of happening, why risk it for no reward?''

why not pick option 2, enjoy your life, live once and maybe twice ! how does believing in God keep you from enjoying your life?


Ah yes, this is like Pascal's Wager

Richard Dawkins, a well-known atheist, proposed a way to win this wager. He postulated the idea that God might reward those who have an honest disbelief in God and actually punish those who have faith in God blindly. He reasoned that the Supreme Being would surely value honesty and logical reasoning, and see no value in blindly following others' beliefs.

Athiets also blindly follow other's beliefs, unless you are the FIRST person to believe in something then you are simply following someone else.


1- (there is no God) That's the end, , no judgment, no saving,no hell fire, no heaven.
2- (there IS God) resurrection will happen, judgement will happen, disbelievers will go to hell fire.

A responsible member of the human race, an atheist philanthropist that helps millions of people live better lives but refuse to believe in a sky fairy or worse yet believes in the wrong one because of what his parents taught him will burn in hell.

A pedophile (priest in extreme cases), murder, rapist, career criminal is welcomed with open arms into magic land if he believes in the sky daddy and just says I'm sorry.

By your logic why not go out and do all the hookers and blow you can, rape every women you desire to fuck and have a good old time and then just say sorry later on...

Your binary options are just too limiting when there are dozens of reasons to reject dogma created to drain wealth and control the masses.

I do not want to debate about whether a believer who does no good deeds will go to heaven or not, but if there is God, what makes you think he cares more about the good souls than those who believe in Him, God's logic does not have to fit into ours, if you had to judge you will chose the good atheist over the bad believer, but God might have a different prospective of judging things, and if this has a 1% chance of happening you are still risking , so why not be a believer and a good person? not trying to make you believe in God i just need a reasonable reason for the risk you taking !


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You have nothing to lose if you believe in the magical pink unicorn.

Except that you have to give money to the Church of the pink unicorn and listen to your pink unicorn priest and live your life according to the dictates of the pink unicorn bible.

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Are you convinced yet?

/s


Your friend is not very sharp. In fact, I bet you made him up just to "win" this internet argument.

Prove to me that this friend is real, can't be as hard as proving that god is real. But these are two things that don't exist.

The argumentative atheist who got converted by this dumb argument.
And also proof for god.

you are too naive to believe that God and Church are even related, I have never been to any church before. you see you are mixing religion with God. to believe in God you do not have to follow a religion also you can still be a member of the church and believe there is no God. your logic here does not make sense, i am only disusing consequences of believing or disbelieving in God, not even whether he exist or not

you bet what? a horse? i dare you ! send me a pm, we could very likely arrange a meeting the 3 of us and have a little debate, plus i am not trying to win any  argument here, if turns out to be a God i could care less if you or anybody else burns in hell fire so why would I try to win an argument ? i am not even trying to convince anybody to believe in God, i am simply asking a question that non of you have answered, WHAT IF YOU WERE WRONG? i need to understand the logic of taking such a risk when believing in God takes nothing but a moment of deep thinking, it requires no church nor priest.

and no my friend did not go " hallelujah , God forgive me for not believing you in you and now I do". shit like that did not happened,probably will never happen !  i did not say it, you came up with it ! i said i opened his eyes ! not converted him ! he just started to consider the consequences of option no.2,  unless you have a proper reason to take that risk then it does not seem like smartest thing to do.

....I bet you made him up just to "win" this internet argument.

Prove to me that this friend is real....
Indeed it does sound suspicious. And if you and I are correct, he is a liar.

.... I had to ask my friend a simple question......

God, no.

and if i am not a liar then what are you ? i'll be so nice and allow you to call yourself whatever that lets you sleep at night.

this is not competition nor a debate that i have to win, thinking that i would lie about something like this is really childish, i am not sure if this is the results of not believing in God or pure naivety from the two of you !, again i'd like to believe it's no 2.

the comment above you, said he BET , so if you want to bet too, let's make this official, set the prize and suggest the way you see fit for proof.
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
#6
....I bet you made him up just to "win" this internet argument.

Prove to me that this friend is real....
Indeed it does sound suspicious. And if you and I are correct, he is a liar.

.... I had to ask my friend a simple question......

God, no.
hero member
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November 29, 2018, 09:29:39 PM
#5
You either believe in the magical pink unicorn or not.

But if you don't believe you will get raped for eternity in a lake of human phlegm.

You have nothing to lose if you believe in the magical pink unicorn.

Except that you have to give money to the Church of the pink unicorn and listen to your pink unicorn priest and live your life according to the dictates of the pink unicorn bible.



Are you convinced yet?

/s


Your friend is not very sharp. In fact, I bet you made him up just to "win" this internet argument.

Prove to me that this friend is real, can't be as hard as proving that god is real. But these are two things that don't exist.

The argumentative atheist who got converted by this dumb argument.
And also proof for god.
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
#4
1- (there is no God) That's the end, , no judgment, no saving,no hell fire, no heaven.
2- (there IS God) resurrection will happen, judgement will happen, disbelievers will go to hell fire.

A responsible member of the human race, an atheist philanthropist that helps millions of people live better lives but refuse to believe in a sky fairy or worse yet believes in the wrong one because of what his parents taught him will burn in hell.

A pedophile (priest in extreme cases), murder, rapist, career criminal is welcomed with open arms into magic land if he believes in the sky daddy and just says I'm sorry.

By your logic why not go out and do all the hookers and blow you can, rape every women you desire to fuck and have a good old time and then just say sorry later on...

Your binary options are just too limiting when there are dozens of reasons to reject dogma created to drain wealth and control the masses.
member
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November 29, 2018, 07:51:05 PM
#3
Ah yes, this is like Pascal's Wager

Richard Dawkins, a well-known atheist, proposed a way to win this wager. He postulated the idea that God might reward those who have an honest disbelief in God and actually punish those who have faith in God blindly. He reasoned that the Supreme Being would surely value honesty and logical reasoning, and see no value in blindly following others' beliefs.
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
#2
A few weeks ago ,I had a long debate with an Atheist friend, a debate about the existence of God. we have been trying to ignore such a debate for a while but it had to take place.

since i can not prove that there is a God , simply because you can't close your eyes and expect to see the light ! but i finally won the debate and opened my friend's eyes.

so after a long debate that led to no way. I had to ask my friend a simple question, and this goes to all the Atheists.

Since death is certain,what is the risk that each of us is taking now ? who is risking more ?

when we die, there are 2 possible scenarios

1- (there is no God) That's the end, , no judgment, no saving,no hell fire, no heaven.
2- (there IS God) resurrection will happen, judgement will happen, disbelievers will go to hell fire.

To me as a believe am risking nothing, i will be good with both scenario mentioned above, it's either heaven or nothing ! so i am not risking anything !
To my Atheist friend, he is good if scenario number one happen, but he sure as hell won't be good if it turns out that there is a God, its either hell or nothing!

so the certain fact here that Atheists are taking a great risk for almost no reward.

now as an Atheists i want you to explain to me why would you be taking a big risk even if it has a 1% chance of failure?

Problem with your logic is that you don't know which one of the 3000+ Gods to believe.  You are probably wrong picking your God in which case you will burn in hell (if there is a God that created hell for people so that he can watch them suffer for eternity :-) )

Another option is that there is a God and nothing happens after you die, i.e. simulation is over and the atoms in your body are recycled to create something else.

So there could be two different options:

1. There is no God, i.e. nothing happens after you die.
2. There is God, nothing happens after you die.  God does not give a fuck about this insignificant planet in the middle of nowhere.

I am pretty sure God concept was invented by insecure, ignorant people to make themselves feel better.  So I would not worry about these childish stories.  Pick option #1 and enjoy your life.  You only got one life to live.
legendary
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November 29, 2018, 07:35:59 PM
#1
A few weeks ago ,I had a long debate with an Atheist friend, a debate about the existence of God. we have been trying to ignore such a debate for a while but it had to take place.

since i can not prove that there is a God , simply because you can't close your eyes and expect to see the light ! but i finally won the debate and opened my friend's eyes.

so after a long debate that led to no way. I had to ask my friend a simple question, and this goes to all the Atheists.

Since death is certain,what is the risk that each of us is taking now ? who is risking more ?

when we die, there are 2 possible scenarios

1- (there is no God) That's the end, , no judgment, no saving,no hell fire, no heaven.
2- (there IS God) resurrection will happen, judgement will happen, disbelievers will go to hell fire.


To me as a believe am risking nothing, i will be good with both scenario mentioned above, it's either heaven or nothing ! so i am not risking anything !
To my Atheist friend, he is good if scenario number one happen, but he sure as hell won't be good if it turns out that there is a God, its either hell or nothing!

so the certain fact here that Atheists are taking a great risk for almost no reward.

now as an Atheists i want you to explain to me why would you be taking a big risk even if it has a 1% chance of failure?


 
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