Capitalism is just free trade. Free trade doesn't hurt anyone.
TEXACO is not a capitalist firm. It's a corporatist one, using the power of the government to do bad things. Stop equivocating, please!
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You don't know the half of it.
I think you missed the part where he was showing that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Capitalism is about voluntary exchange.
Oh, you mean buying and selling consumer items in some kind of market place? OK then, give me an example of a voluntary trade. Explain why the trade would still happen even though the buyer faces no systemic pressure to buy, and the seller faces no systemic pressure to sell.
The indigenous were merely voluntarily exchanging their physical health, environmental viability and social well being for the ability of Texaco and the US to make more money. Nobody's arguing with you there. Continuing to asset that anything I'm proposing entails killing people doesn't make it true. You can come up with a different straw man/red herring if you can think of one. I would prefer if you were being honest or at least less ignorant though.
The history of your movement is written on the hundreds of millions of corpses filling mass graves all across Europe and Asia. All that remains is for you to see that your system will only work if you are willing to add everyone that doesn't agree with you to that body count.
Yes, the Zeitgeist movement/Venus project mass grave sites are well publicized tourist attractions all over the world. Send me a post card the next time you visit.
The indigenous were merely voluntarily exchanging their physical health, environmental viability and social well being for the ability of Texaco and the US to make more money. Nobody's arguing with you there. Continuing to asset that anything I'm proposing entails killing people doesn't make it true. You can come up with a different straw man/red herring if you can think of one. I would prefer if you were being honest or at least less ignorant though.
The history of your movement is written on the hundreds of millions of corpses filling mass graves all across Europe and Asia. All that remains is for you to see that your system will only work if you are willing to add everyone that doesn't agree with you to that body count.
GODWIN!
The indigenous were merely voluntarily exchanging their physical health, environmental viability and social well being for the ability of Texaco and the US to make more money. Nobody's arguing with you there. Continuing to asset that anything I'm proposing entails killing people doesn't make it true. You can come up with a different straw man/red herring if you can think of one. I would prefer if you were being honest or at least less ignorant though.
The history of your movement is written on the hundreds of millions of corpses filling mass graves all across Europe and Asia. All that remains is for you to see that your system will only work if you are willing to add everyone that doesn't agree with you to that body count.
Blaming the victims for the violent actions of their aggressors is one of the distorted values that capitalism teaches.
This is why I stopped taking Peter seriously
Capitalism has murdred more people than you're willing to admit.
Name one.
There have been some murders committed by practitioners of capitalism, but murder is not a necessary component of capitalism the way it is with your scheme.
Some RBE types consider a person starving, or dying from a disease they can't afford to treat, as "violence" or "murder" perpetrated by capitalism. Seriously.
You don't get to claim all of the "benefits" of capitalism and then blame the drawbacks on something else.
The benefit, in this case, is capitalism, and the drawback is lack of capitalism. More specifically, the benefit is someone being a capitalism, participating in the capitalist system, and making wealth for themselves. The drawback is someone not being a capitalist, not taking advantage of capitalism, and then getting in trouble when they didn't bother earning or saving. If you are climbing a cliff, it's not the cliff murdering you if you let go.
This is the kind of lethal ignorance and sick egocentric mentality that allow these kinds of atrocities to happen repeatedly. Blaming the victims for the violent actions of their aggressors is one of the distorted values that capitalism teaches.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Apparently nobody educated them about how dangerous capitalism is. They were likely mislead into accepting this behavior through corrupt government and suppressed by armed services. Both if which are products of the free market capitalists who were merely fulfilling their duty to shareholders.
Oh, so they were forced to pay for their own subjugation against their own will. Yep, that sure sounds like capitalism.
You don't know the half of it.
I think you missed the part where he was showing that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Capitalism is about voluntary exchange. Please report to wikipedia for remedial education. The bad news is that you'll survive it, unlike the millions killed in your reeducation camps.
The indigenous were merely voluntarily exchanging their physical health, environmental viability and social well being for the ability of Texaco and the US to make more money. Nobody's arguing with you there. Continuing to asset that anything I'm proposing entails killing people doesn't make it true. You can come up with a different straw man/red herring if you can think of one. I would prefer if you were being honest or at least less ignorant though.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Apparently nobody educated them about how dangerous capitalism is. They were likely mislead into accepting this behavior through corrupt government and suppressed by armed services. Both if which are products of the free market capitalists who were merely fulfilling their duty to shareholders.
Oh, so they were forced to pay for their own subjugation against their own will. Yep, that sure sounds like capitalism.
You don't know the half of it.
I think you missed the part where he was showing that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Capitalism is about voluntary exchange. Please report to wikipedia for remedial education. The bad news is that you'll survive it, unlike the millions killed in your reeducation camps.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Apparently nobody educated them about how dangerous capitalism is. They were likely mislead into accepting this behavior through corrupt government and suppressed by armed services. Both if which are products of the free market capitalists who were merely fulfilling their duty to shareholders.
Oh, so they were forced to pay for their own subjugation against their own will. Yep, that sure sounds like capitalism.
You don't know the half of it.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Apparently nobody educated them about how dangerous capitalism is. They were likely mislead into accepting this behavior through corrupt government and suppressed by armed services. Both if which are products of the free market capitalists who were merely fulfilling their duty to shareholders.
Oh, so they were forced to pay for their own subjugation against their own will. Yep, that sure sounds like capitalism.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Apparently nobody educated them about how dangerous capitalism is. They were likely mislead into accepting this behavior through corrupt government and suppressed by armed services. Both if which are products of the free market capitalists who were merely fulfilling their duty to shareholders.
Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
How come everyone around the areas where this is happening is just idly sitting by and allowing it to happen? Are they ok with it or something?
Capitalism has murdred more people than you're willing to admit.
Name one.
There have been some murders committed by practitioners of capitalism, but murder is not a necessary component of capitalism the way it is with your scheme.
Some RBE types consider a person starving, or dying from a disease they can't afford to treat, as "violence" or "murder" perpetrated by capitalism. Seriously.
You don't get to claim all of the "benefits" of capitalism and then blame the drawbacks on something else.
The benefit, in this case, is capitalism, and the drawback is lack of capitalism. More specifically, the benefit is someone being a capitalism, participating in the capitalist system, and making wealth for themselves. The drawback is someone not being a capitalist, not taking advantage of capitalism, and then getting in trouble when they didn't bother earning or saving. If you are climbing a cliff, it's not the cliff murdering you if you let go.
Here's how it works:
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
I don't hate anyone. I recognize the source of our cultural and social sickness and wish to treat it. Who and what do you think produced these "assholes"? Were they born that way? Did they teleport from a different dimension? Or are they like all of the rest of us, victims of a sick culture with distorted values?
Hmm. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to "cure" people that disagreed with them before...
By golly, they have! And by people spewing the same poison as this tool.
Here's how it works:
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
I don't hate anyone. I recognize the source of our cultural and social sickness and wish to treat it. Who and what do you think produced these "assholes"? Were they born that way? Did they teleport from a different dimension? Or are they like all of the rest of us, victims of a sick culture with distorted values?
You must be confusing me with the united States military, which is currently engaged in the systematic killing of random people in many countries around the world in the name of national security. Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
You're deranged. I'm done talking with you.
Please know that you don't have to continue to be wrong, I encourage you to learn more and be as informed as you can.
In fact, the exact same kinds of sociopathic authoritarians who operate the US fascist military/industrial/congressional complex are the exact same types who want to have the type of micromanaging control over all human activities that you RBE would entail.
Everything that you're claiming to combat would be exactly what you're creating.
If you are indeed sincere, you're playing the role of a "useful idiot" perfectly.
If you're calling the most sick, violent and unequal country in existence a socialist utopia, perhaps you're the one who is confused.
Here's how it works:
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
Society is run by a bunch of assholes who use any excuse they can get their hands on as a reason for why they need to be given more control and power.
Your "resource based economy" is nothing more than the next excuse the same assholes who you claim to hate are going to use when their current ones are played out.
You must be confusing me with the united States military, which is currently engaged in the systematic killing of random people in many countries around the world in the name of national security. Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
You're deranged. I'm done talking with you.
Please know that you don't have to continue to be wrong, I encourage you to learn more and be as informed as you can.
In fact, the exact same kinds of sociopathic authoritarians who operate the US fascist military/industrial/congressional complex are the exact same types who want to have the type of micromanaging control over all human activities that you RBE would entail.
Everything that you're claiming to combat would be exactly what you're creating.
If you are indeed sincere, you're playing the role of a "useful idiot" perfectly.
You must be confusing me with the united States military, which is currently engaged in the systematic killing of random people in many countries around the world in the name of national security. Or Chevron/Texaco who poisoned the central and south american environment and people for decades in order to reap obscene profits. Perhaps you are the poor idiot whining for the limitless power of capitalists to do as they please, no matter the number of people that have to be killed, the number of deformed babies that have to be born, the acres of land that have to be rendered toxic and unusable and the number of communities that have to be terrorized in order to generate profit. You are certainly not harmless however.
You're deranged. I'm done talking with you.
Please know that you don't have to continue to be wrong, I encourage you to learn more and be as informed as you can.
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