It would be a good idea but as you said, if it didn't completely lack enforceability and the ability to implement.
To implement such a scheme you'd have to have some sort of universal health identifier/profile for all of the population. That itself is going to see a lot of backlash given the fact that it can be seen as an infringement of privacy rights.
Although a merit of this proposal is that it would also serve as a macroeconomic stimulus as a secondary effect, which is sorely needed in the majority of economies right now.
Topic: A reward system for Covid Free people.... - page 2. (Read 711 times)
For the prize there are many who could build resistance against the virus, such as Canada. When you look at the results, you talk about America and you have to be embarrassed. In the intoxication of world conquest, America is busy but the COVID-19 has turned the country into a puppet. There are many issues that everyone comes up with for humanity but when we see fear, the result is the opposite. covid-19 is not very scary. The government wants to win by playing games with the common people.
Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.
But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.
But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).
In regards to the bolded, that will probably mean little to no incentive for people to do what is right, unless maybe you're paying just the victim hospital bill (no extra reward for victims to spend on other needs like how those without the disease will spend theirs)... or you're paying the disease-free ones more.
Reward doesn't necessarily has to be monetary.. You could get people to accumulate/lose points for doing what is right/wrong and the good points can be used to improve their reputation in mostly health related areas, or the points could earn them more values/privileges when they're accumulated to certain level.
I think the reward system will need to be rule and evidence based. You find someone/people taking big health risk(or breaking important health safety rules) in public places, you capture them with special anonymity-friendly/privacy-friendly camera, you earn some points and the ones breaking rules lose points. Better to do this in decentralized manner in form of Citizen Cams or something.
Eli Khamarov said great words: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit". And that's 100% true. This proposal isn't directly in touch with the main subject of this thread but no one will reward you for being a good boy. I don't understand at all what's going on, the people who they save have dead are those with more than 1-2 chronic diseases and their state of being was already very critical. It would be better to see the statistics of those who dead with and without covid, both of them. Personally, I think that they play with statistics. Some countries rise statistics manually in order to get help with the form of money, i.e. grants from USA and Europe. In reality, they are making tons of money (big guys) with the current situation while it really hugely affects the population.
So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.
Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.
So, the reward for covid free people won't happen. No one will help you because you are a good guy! Also, this model of reward for me sounds illogical and not so good because maybe I have been covid free from the beginning but maybe I'll get infected tomorrow, after receiving the reward.
Btw I don't know if the reward for us is the money they give us, in reality that debt will be paid by US, it's like giving out a loan and paying yourself the loan that you gave away. A lot of illogical things happen in our world.
Well, as you said.. Governments and the World Health Organization is rewarding the countries for people who are infected... is that not illogical? Why give governments money for people who got infected?..... does that make sense at all? (Yes, the thinking behind it is to fund the consequences of this virus... but my idea will prevent it.)
You will have to think out of the box for this idea to work.... even if there are 1000s of loopholes and also negative consequences as a result of such an idea. (Why would governments be serious to curb the spread of the virus, if they get paid for people who are infected or who have died?)
Also this sort of payment requires a regular thing and also stops people wanting to get tested.
But I think the government wouldn't let this happen so they will probably add a rule that people need to be tested first and wait for a period of time to get a reward. This reward system would actually force people to want the test.
But this reward system would be unfair to those who actually needs support which is the victims so I don't think it will work (unless they do the same with system with the victims).
I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.
Well government thinking about themselves not their people they really don't care about the people if they die or not as long as they are earning money and they are already saved from this pandemic. And also government wants only money and this will not sink into their minds that those people who really felt the struggle of life just to survive this pandemic , here in my country you need to pay for the covid vaccine also those who already had covid and not givin it for free this is absolute insane they do not care about us anymore. 
Currently nothing is done to incentivize people to stay Covid free.... just the fear ... but even that is not enough. (Most young people think Covid only kills older people, so they just ignore the rules to stay safe)
Do we really deserve an incentives for taking care of ourselves to not get infected? I mean its our responsibility to comply and be healthy for our own sake, thus I think its not necessary.Besides there are many institutions specially the health care facilities that really need funds to enhance their services and accomodate more patients. In our country we are lacking of health care providers and hospitals, the reason why some patients are not able to survive for not getting the treatment they needed.
So instead of giving a reward for the covid free people, why not think of more essential things that need the budget first to address the main issue that we currently face.
It's a viral outbreak, how do you expect people to stay uninfected no matter how hard they try? I have no doubt that a lot of people who've come down with COVID-19 were taking precautions against it, so I'd think that rewarding people for not getting sick is kind of a silly idea.
Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected. And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded? Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.
Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others. There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.
Plus there would be all sorts of abuses depending on what the reward was, not to mention the effort the government would have to exert to prove someone wasn't infected. And then what if someone gets sick after they've been rewarded? Just thinking about this makes me want to rip my hair out, as it's just a dumb idea.
Stay COVID-free because you want to stay healthy and not infect others. There shouldn't be any kind of incentive other than that.
I agree.
Government funding such a silly idea would just be a waste. It's more ideal to invest the money on the vaccine, that's a more better reward than money, because with a successful vaccine, you could continue to earn and save money again, simple as that. But since people are getting short in money, they still prefer cash over a contribution of tax (let's say a reward system would be implemented) that could help them in the long run by having the vaccine in the right time.
I don't think it is something that has to be rewarded since it is really our responsibility to keep ourselves healthy even without the pandemic. Why would the government spend its budget incentivizing or rewarding people who haven't caught Covid. This amount of money can be spent somewhere else than to give people incentives for not getting Covid.
I'm sick of all the handouts. So many people around me have pocketed tens of thousands USD in handouts from stimulus funds, unemployment that should have run out many months ago, etc.
Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat?
You people are turning me into a conservative.....
Managing to not get sick should not justify yet another government handout. How about we go back to a system where people make an honest living, instead of sucking on the government teat?
You people are turning me into a conservative.....
You my friend are totally missing the point of this .....
When less people get sick... less of the government taxes are spend on hospitalization in public hospitals.
No, you are missing the point. The distribution of COVID-19 is always going to be asymmetric, since it spreads much more easily among the poor, who are forced to live in crowded and unhygienic spaces and to work jobs that constantly expose them to infection.
What you're talking about is yet another subsidy to middle class and rich people, who already have the luxury of isolating themselves, having all their purchases delivered to their door, working from home, etc.
The distribution of helicopter money has already been so perversely fucked up that I'd rather see it all stop entirely than to see even more people who don't need handouts, get them. The government is just choosing winners and losers and reinforcing existing socioeconomic inequality.
Maybe I'm just biased as someone who works my fucking ass off running 3 businesses, with a family to take care of, and I know people who have been taking handout after handout from the government, sitting on their asses all day doing nothing. I'm tired of it. These incentives are not economically viable and they just create artificial winners and losers.
By giving rewards to people who are not infected with COVID19, it will increase people's discipline to comply with health protocols.
But the negative side is that the government will need a special budget for this idea. And don't let the budget for rewards use the budget
to provide assistance for victims infected with COVID19. Even though we want to carry out this idea, people who are positive for COVID19
are still the top priority for assistance.
But the negative side is that the government will need a special budget for this idea. And don't let the budget for rewards use the budget
to provide assistance for victims infected with COVID19. Even though we want to carry out this idea, people who are positive for COVID19
are still the top priority for assistance.
Reward system could really improve the discipline among people according to B. F. Skinner.
But I guess such thing will not be appropriate for this situation. There are more casualties which are needing more attention than to focus on giving rewards to those who would be able to not be in contact with the virus. Also, there will be a problem with the budget allocation of the government when it comes to economic and health related problems. Corruption may also arise due to such thing wherein officials could hide the identity of those people who will be eligible of the rewards. Another thing is to where will they get such fund? More likely, they will focus on the problem itself, as a traditional way to solve issues than to go preventive. This would only work at the first and not during the process wherein there are already first and second wave to some countries.
But I guess such thing will not be appropriate for this situation. There are more casualties which are needing more attention than to focus on giving rewards to those who would be able to not be in contact with the virus. Also, there will be a problem with the budget allocation of the government when it comes to economic and health related problems. Corruption may also arise due to such thing wherein officials could hide the identity of those people who will be eligible of the rewards. Another thing is to where will they get such fund? More likely, they will focus on the problem itself, as a traditional way to solve issues than to go preventive. This would only work at the first and not during the process wherein there are already first and second wave to some countries.
That would have been favorable. But the chore is not so manageable. It will be incredibly tough for so various people to snatch such a huge step for the government lonely. Nevertheless, the reward system can be inaugurated for those who are helpless, such as not being eligible to endeavor or are in disastrous need, living below the poverty line.
they will not waste that time, they will prefer to use the money for the development of their country and somehow recover from the losses caused by the pandemic, it's a good suggestion but in reality even the government doesn't like it they prefer to give a loan for individual business so they can start to recover their bussines than using that money for rewarding other that follow the rules. And besides it is not insignificant that more people have not yet gotten sick compared to those who are already infected. which means they also need to allocate large funds of money to make this successful .
i stay in home, very fear for my grandpa
Staying fit and healthy is the best reward that we could have as we follow the protocols to stay free from the Covid virus. We all deserve to be rewarded but our health is the best wealth that we could have that no amount of money could buy. Also, it should be our personal choice to stay covid free. The government still has a lot to sustain just like the treatment of the infected people and to be honest, most of them also did their best to get rid of the virus but still get infected because the virus is just everywhere.
This is quite an interesting idea, I even think that way when my coworkers are lazy. "overcoming rule-breaking attitudes is rewarding rule-abiding" and it worked. However, if the context is the country, this might be a very big scope. While governments from developed countries who may have a large state budget can be applied in their country for the latest Covid handling steps. For a country that is poor and has a very large population, it requires enormous funds. Governments in poor countries like mine are busy providing assistance to people affected by Covid and currently regulations are also a little lax, so that people who are disobedient are increasing. Even worse, the Minister in my country who manages the distribution of the Covid19 aid fund is corrupting Covid funds. So sad. But I believe the idea of giving rewards to those who are free of covid can help prevent the spread of covid, because many people are motivated to be free from covid. However, this can only be done by countries with large budgets.
Dude, why you want to reward people for doing nothing or taking no risk to grow the economy? What's the end of this? Everyone stays inside and does whatever the government wants? We already in the phase of "ignoring" the virus or "living with the virus" as the previous efforts have been failed, and we are on the brink of economic catastrophe. So, stay covid free is not the desired outcome, but immunity is.
I hear ya loud and clear here on this. Now as you stated there is really no good way or legitimate way of actually implementing this idea, or at least one I can think of off the top of my head. For me at least, a United States citizen, it's baffling to me that I've got a President who was so hopelessly careless about getting covid then of course contracting it..this does nothing but show is supporter base it's okay to be a moron and just ignore medical/scientific advice. I do wish there were a way to reward those who didn't follow is ignorant lead.
Good idea but the problem is if the government will allow it. I hope the government can think of this because it is also a better way to avoid the spreading of virus and also help people to become more careful about their health. The reward will attract the attention of the people to obey the health protocol. Great idea!
I think government can use reward for Covid Free people as another way to protect the people being infected because if they can give the reward, then the people will definitely follow the government health protocols in order to get the reward.
Are you sure all people will follow all the protocols even though they have been given a reward. Some groups of people or individuals have different characteristics, some run according to the rules, some don't care about it. Some of the stimulations given by the government in my country are given to workers or employees and to traders. so not everyone can get cash stimulus. for other stimuli in the form of basic foodstuffs, it is given equally to residents who are included in the population list.But on the other hand, government is too corrupt and I don't think they will make an allocation about it because it's too expensive for them and will only be added to government spending specially for the country with higher number of population.
Some additional allocations that are needed will certainly be very helpful, but these allocations for this pandemic are indeed very vulnerable to corruption. Just imagine that some corrupt officials have cut the funds provided to the public and that happened a few weeks ago. Jump to: