There doesn't need to be a fork.
Assuming there's no fork, I think having both clients is good to decentralize development.
That said, since XT includes support for Bip101 and Core provides nothing
in the way of scalability, I was forced to vote for XT.
Topic: A simple poll: The future of Bitcoin block size (Read 1437 times)
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
So has everyone made their opinion known? 49 people on this thread...about 500 on this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.31200) and the majority for both is to move to XT.
I'll have you know that I (and my army of alt accounts) have not voted in any of these polls. They are meaningless.
Bitcoin Core will stay, but before a fork takes place will implement bigger blocks...
I hope you're right. 
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
This thread has alots more votes , so you can see general censensus of the community : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.31220
Too bad Thermos censor it and lock it. Its the largest thread of the forum too.
Bold. This is the scary part.
So has everyone made their opinion known? 49 people on this thread...about 500 on this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.31200) and the majority for both is to move to XT.
I guess that's all there is to discuss about it? (Now, what's the Dollar doing today?)
A simple question: Does Bitcoin XT change anything according to the limit of 21.000.000 ? 
no, blocksize limit has nothing to do with bitcoin rewards.
A simple question: Does Bitcoin XT change anything according to the limit of 21.000.000 ?
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
This thread has alots more votes , so you can see general censensus of the community : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.31220
Too bad Thermos censor it and lock it. Its the largest thread of the forum too.
Bold. This is the scary part.
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
This thread has alots more votes , so you can see general censensus of the community : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.31220
Too bad Thermos censor it and lock it. Its the largest thread of the forum too.
Let's be honest here, I haven't voted.
I just don't know what to choose. Sorry but I'm not enough of a techie to make a clear choice. I've been using BTC for 3 years, I've been writing many posts here and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean I'm fully qualified to decide about what's best for the future of technology. This isn't a free vote. Very few people fully understands what's at stake here, and I'm not one of them. I think I know what's good for BTC: faster confirmations, the ability to handle a growing number of transactions per second, etc... But I can't say what's the best tech to achieve those aims. And I'm surprised there's so many people who think they have the knowledge to answer.
I just don't know what to choose. Sorry but I'm not enough of a techie to make a clear choice. I've been using BTC for 3 years, I've been writing many posts here and elsewhere, but that doesn't mean I'm fully qualified to decide about what's best for the future of technology. This isn't a free vote. Very few people fully understands what's at stake here, and I'm not one of them. I think I know what's good for BTC: faster confirmations, the ability to handle a growing number of transactions per second, etc... But I can't say what's the best tech to achieve those aims. And I'm surprised there's so many people who think they have the knowledge to answer.
I voted for XT. Gavin's proposal is not perfect but it is good enough. The reality is that Bitcoin needs to scale in order to remain relevant; furthermore while this endless debate rages on technology keeps growing at a rate faster than what is being proposed in XT.
If Bitcoin does not deal with the scaling issue soon another coin will step up to the plate and make this debate moot by making both the Core and XT forks worthless.
If Bitcoin does not deal with the scaling issue soon another coin will step up to the plate and make this debate moot by making both the Core and XT forks worthless.
Bitcoin Core will stay, but before a fork takes place will implement bigger blocks...
Quite possible. They have option to end this fork debate once and for all, just by changing block size themselves, thus preventing two
different chains from being created. But they don't need to do this now, they have by jan 2016 to do this, but imho, they should do it now and stop people from panicking.
Bitcoin Core will stay, but before a fork takes place will implement bigger blocks...
I think that bitcoin should work and adopt bigger block sizes. Bigger blocks will allow bitcoin to adopt into other FinTechs and allow innovation.
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
Every site on this debate says they are the majority and the others are just [insert insult]I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
You can't really determine that. I am pretty sure, there a people on both sites, who have a handful of accounts here, who will manipulate this poll.
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
There is certainly going to be a lot of drama in the near future, and imo that's a much bigger problem than blocksizes. I'm not confident that Bitcoin can get through a heated debate like this for an extended period of time without taking massive hits in value (just look at the recent prices). I understand this is potentially just a blip in the roadmap, but it still signifies the idea that Bitcoin cannot survive without a faithful community, and alienating parts of the community is counterintuitive.
CORE with BIP.
the True ... the TRUST ... the developpers jobs.
CERTIFIED.
the True ... the TRUST ... the developpers jobs.
CERTIFIED.
I am very surprised to see that XT is winning. I know this is not a lot of votes but still. I thought that majority of people here supports bigger blocks but not the XT.
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I don't know what to say, but it seems there will be a lot of drama about this XT thing in the near future!
I voted bitcoinXT in the poll but my real opinion is only if bitcoin core can't scale on time.
there were already enough pools. you cant handle millions of new users with this artificial and unnecessary limit. 8MB is very conversativ and a good start.
you can find an overview here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-will-support-bigger-blocks-and-you-should-too-1141086
here is your satoshi quote:
Should Bitcoin grow, even if the network changes its structure as a result?
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users.
— Satoshi Nakamoto, July 2010
you can find an overview here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-will-support-bigger-blocks-and-you-should-too-1141086
here is your satoshi quote:
Should Bitcoin grow, even if the network changes its structure as a result?
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users.
— Satoshi Nakamoto, July 2010
Reminds me of Benjamin Franklin's quote warning not to believe every quote you read on the internet.
But nntp is kind of a good example. ISP's used to typically run their own servers, and some enthusiasts did as well in the early days. Due to the data structure it actually produced an incentive to overcome some of the problems of the UFS filesystems, but that is just an aside. With the popularization of binaries (mostly porn) eventually most ISP's threw up their hands and just outsourced nntp to a handful of specialists. These centralized services came under pressure to censor, and http methods outstripped nntp for porn (and most everything else) eventually anyway.
The results of polls on bitcointalk.org should not be considered as valid data. If one wanted to they could easily manipulate the results.
I had the same impression as NLNico.
By calling the options "the original" and "the next generation", you are being suggestive about which option to choose. It sounds like Bitcoin XT is the improved new version and Bitcoin Core is dead or something.
Nah man, my word choices don't imply that at all, you imply that. Original means the first version of Bitcoin technology. Next Generation means the next version of Bitcoin technology. Don't impose your biases or opinions on to what are very simple words.Jump to: