Topic: a slap on the faces of patriotic citizens (Read 463 times)

Today people on Twitter/X were feeling what many of them considered to be a slap on their face, as the speaker of the house Mike Johnson seems to have allowed for more aid for Ukraine and Israel to be send, even though he had declared it was not okey to send help abroad without securing the border of the United States with Mexico.
Thousands of people feeling what they would call a slap on their faces as 60 billion dollars of people's money are going to be send in form of military equiments and weapons for allies of the USA to defend themselves against terrorists and an aggressive big country as Russia is.

It had been months since the last package of aid for Ukraine, let us see how long Mike Johnson can keep his position as speaker of the house after this debacle and assumed treason from him to the core of the MAGA movement. Even though I believe it is important for USA to help allies, I would not blame anyone who feels this amount of resources being sent abroad as a slap on the face.

What do you all think about the happenings of today in the Capitol of the USA?

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Regarding this topic, here are her answers regarding Democracy and Republic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV5arQxexyg.

If you are a 14th Amendment citizen of the US, your status in America is different than if you are simply a man/woman living on the land of America. How do you become a citizen of the US? By accepting that you are being called a citizen by the US government, because you signed up for some benefit from government.

Just remember, you are NOT a US citizen until you agree with government that you are. The 'person' named on the paperwork that you signed is a separate person. You are a man/woman. And when the salesmen (the courts) trick you into saying that you are a citizen - saying that you are that 'person' listed on the paperwork - what can government do but honor what you said?... at least until you contradict what you said in the right way.

If your signature isn't on the document that has your name on it, that 'person' is not one of your persons. Fourth Amendment:
Are you secure in your persons? If the court document has your name on it, but you haven't agreed that it is one of your persons, somebody has stolen one (or more) of your persons, and adapted it to make a new fake person. Then they try to get you to agree that their created person is you.

Think about this, and then stand up to the Democracy by remaining within the Republic. How to remain in the Republic? Don't agree that you are the person on their document. Then sue the judge and the attorney for stealing your persons and adapting them for their own use, which is against the 4th Amendment.

This is the reason why the US has become as strong as it has. If this was taught in school, the US would have remained honorable, as well.

Where democracy is truly working in a country, you will see leaders be happy when they see criticism from their followers for some areas they are not doing well in their various offices, so that they will take correction to improve and you will begin to see the country progress.

Government officials that don't allow criticism in their country, there is no way you will not see corruption around their country because they feel that is the way to lead people, not knowing that they are destroying the country for not allow criticism.

Many people have the law that stated that people have the freedom of speech, but there are some countries in the world, you cannot criticize any government officials in the country and if you do they will use their Arm forces to arrest you to teach you some lessons with their political powers.

Absolutely agree with you , criticism is way of passing information to our leaders on what is affecting the citizens, that they are not doing right. if done constructively, although not all criticism can be of positive one because criticism it'self is always a negative signal but one should not go to the extreme. That can make even what he /she is criticizing will turn out to affect him negatively.

There is one thing I observed about critics they always have reason to criticize weather good or bad but in the aspect of most criticism it's centered on bad leader not able to handle the basics need if the citizens,any government that failed on it responsibility should not expect praise than criticism.

Even though the government already has a strong system, there are still errors and fraud, this is where the activists and the community come to criticize it, because without criticizing sometimes the government has unknowingly made rules that are not pro-people. actually the criticism is to develop in a better direction, what the community feels is not comparable to the rules made by the government sometimes. even demonstrations are also important and regulated in world law

Criticizing the leader is legal and a right of the people in democracies. Although the critics against the country's government are in the minority, their eloquence is high. Criticizing the country is by no means wise. The country will look as beautiful as you decorate it. A country cannot be organized by the country and the government, of course the role of the people is the most important here. Criticizing the country means criticizing yourself. And a wise person never criticizes himself.

It does not matter whether you are a common person or a man of caliber, criticism ought to be constructive when talking to people of the authority. No leader will tolerate abusive criticism from anyone regardless of what the criticism is all about. Democracy guarantee freedom of speech but it doesn't guarantee your freedom after speech. Criticism is very necessary in every sane society to help improve effective governance but some of the critics lack the proper wisdom of communication, their criticism always comes in the form of attack with vulgar and abusive words while they disregard the respect for the office or the officer they are criticizing. Responsible leaders are ready to welcome a constructive criticism and take correction but when you disguise to insult your leaders and hide under criticism, you deserve any treatment that comes afterwards

If you are a common man then most likely you will not be allowed to criticize your leader, the government will supress the idea directly or indirectly once they saw it's gaining attention. There is no freedom of speech anywhere but it varies from one to another country. We can't do anything at all other than accepting and learn to live with it.

Just like OP has said, there is nothing wrong in criticising a bad government but you must be careful not to give a destructive kind of of criticism. You criticise with facts so you do not not get charged for defamation of character because no law will protect you if you are actually engaging in a destructive criticism against the government. You should also be away of the system of government your country practices,  some governments will not permit any form of public opinion.  But, as far as democracy is concerned, every citizen has the right to criticize a government that is not living up to expectations. Constructive criticisms serves as a reminder to them that people are actually watching.

Everyone has their own opinion so anybody can say what they like which is left to them the consequences they might faces.
It is better we respect our various countries because this is the only way to serve the nation and keep trying to see things get better.
We don't have to pose like we are the only one the bad society is affecting, everyone is facing it and we need to be wise and keep up to doing the good works that will induce others to follow the ama patter instead of causing problems ups and downs.

I would definitely criticise any bad leader or government that I I know isn't doing their job well, you can't promise the world and go there and do nothing, it's right to criticise bad leadership to bring their error to their notice. And if in the process you get angry enough to hate the country there is no problem expressing yourself in that way, and if eventually after a while you notice good changes and decide to serve your country all over, then your not bad just a better citizen than others that did nothing.

You can criticize the people of a country there is nothing wrong here. As a citizen of the country you can do everything but it will be your determination for the country where you live. But here the government will play a face role the criticism of the leaders will be less because of corruption they will have more impact later. Leaders have increased their power by pushing the country's society to death on the battlefield for ages.

When it comes to serving the county I strong believe people like this have no choice but rather obey the principles and standard set, I have seen several people like this hating their country with passion and sometimes they do die early, why? People like this will want to stand for the truth and whenever things get so bad they'll be the first to speak out but surprising our leaders will always fight against the voice with all means and using unnecessary allegations. What's real here is people should always stand for the truth and not for unnecessary opinion when there's nothing important about the words. I don't know what the op is really referring to but a real critic are very rare to find cause they're always hiding for fear of what the government will do.

In certain government leadership, even criticism doesn't have any positive effect to change but the situation remains the same. Some people in government, once they get in their they shut their ears to any other thing and do what is in their mind whether for good or bad and they would never arrest any body for what they have said or criticized but some other leaders never want any opposition, they frustrate every attempt of criticism and you see opposition members going into exile to run away from being killed. So I think it also depends on who is involved

If their is no criticism of the leaders by most of the citizens who shared a different views, then just know that something is really wrong in that society, so criticism is normal In a society, when the leader is not doing the right thing.

 Another thing is that it also depends on the kind of person leading, most people don't take criticism lightly, they always feel attacked, when criticized, so to me, criticism is a normal thing for leaders, and it should be used as moral buster to step up, and do better.

I think it can co-exist. I can say that I hate the government of my country but
it does not mean that I hate the land I live in and the people it hosts.

If me serving the same country I say I hate is hypocritical then so be it.
I am serving the country because I see a problem and a solution I can give.

What’s worse is someone who leaves the country and gives up on it.
As a citizen, I can criticize my country and do everything I know to make it better.

Yes, criticisms are one of the keywords that optimizes the political leaders to stimulating of innovations and governing in a accountable productivities which brings about improvements to the societies otherwise the government would feel they Masses are being comfortable by the ways are being governed. The government deserves to be hitting hard on them before they masses messages could get through their stairs otherwise on a solemnly motion, there'd be absolutely ignorance of the government towards the masses under their watch. That is why freedom of speech is important to the society under the watch of a government.

The fact I don't have the right to legally denied to deny country doesn't mean I can't air out of being regretful of being a citizen to the country. If a countries go government does well of course everyone of it would embrace and be grateful being one of its citizens but you can't expect me to adore a country that doesn't good of me and isn't grateful to treat me well for being one of the citizens. Everyone has a choice.

The only trouble with the US leadership lies in figuring out who they are. They are not the people in Washington. They are the average people around the country, who won't take control of their politicians in Washington. They could if they wanted to. And they just might be starting to want to - https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/jiauh/4/.

Criticism of bad leadership anywhere in the world should be encouraged, because it's important to raise a voice and call a bad government to order by criticizing where they're doing wrong, it wouldn't be right to see things detoriating in the economy and keep quiet, it'll only encourage the leadership to continue in their wrongdoings.

The explanation in the OP that someone criticized the government and called it a zoo, then later comes back to to serve the same country, is ok if he sees the change that he desired coming to manifestation, criticizing your government doesn't mean that you hate your country, it's just the leadership that's you hate. Let us always speak out when we see something going wrong.

Criticism in really sense is good but it should be strategic and constructive that's why I advocate for strong opposition in any administration, when we have a strong opposition you will see that the government will not like to debate from good governance because they will not like the people to know their lapses.

You said something about sudden change of mind to serve the country you once hated, op, to me I think change is a constant thing, so if the people a person decide to serve the country he had hated is this fine, may be he has change his mind on the hate aspect after all he is from the country so he is not banned not to contest in any election so won't he contest.