A strike against PayPal has started - #OpPaypal - page 3.

GeniuSxBoY

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Quote from: Frozenlock on July 27, 2011, 02:38:03 PM

Can't close my accounts, apparently

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This account cannot be closed at this time because there are outstanding payment authorizations. Please try again after the authorizations have been settled or voided.

Well I've done something like 2 transactions in the last 6 months, last one more than a month old, on steam.
Everything is fine, yet they won't let me close my account.

I can't even remove my credit card:

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You may not remove your funding source while an authorization is still pending.

In the FAQ, if I check the "How do I close my account", the text has been removed. It's now -nothing- followed by the print option.

What kind of lowlife assholes try to close the gates when people are fleeing?

ignorance -the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

1) You must not know that people have more than a month to file a dispute.
2) You must not know that if you leave before that dispute is filed, paypal can't reclaim their funds from you.

ctoon6

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ebay is down around .95 and 2.73% right now for the past day

Frozenlock

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Can't close my accounts, apparently

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This account cannot be closed at this time because there are outstanding payment authorizations. Please try again after the authorizations have been settled or voided.

Well I've done something like 2 transactions in the last 6 months, last one more than a month old, on steam.
Everything is fine, yet they won't let me close my account.

I can't even remove my credit card:

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You may not remove your funding source while an authorization is still pending.

In the FAQ, if I check the "How do I close my account", the text has been removed. It's now -nothing- followed by the print option.

What kind of lowlife assholes try to close the gates when people are fleeing?

bitdragon

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peace

I have successfully closed my account.

Just because I can, with indeed no attachment to the outcome.
I am done and the next time my purchase requires a paypal payment, well they will accept bitcoins or cash or abstinence but I will not be a slave to paypal anymore.

Edit:
I closed online, with no phone call.
"
Dear bitdragon,

We are sorry that you have decided to close your PayPal account. With millions of members in dozens of countries and regions across the globe, PayPal is continually improving and expanding its award-winning services.

PayPal is the world's leading online money transaction service for individuals, businesses and merchants. From customized shopping carts and ATM debit cards to one-click purchases, PayPal offers individual and business solutions that are time-saving, secure, cost-effective and easy-to-use.

Should you decide you want to have a PayPal account again in the future, visit https://www.paypal.com/ch and follow the few easy steps to open a new account.
"

ctoon6

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every paypal account i have ever had was always locked, for no reason, so i never used them to begin with because it simply stupid policies.

http://twitpic.com/5ws6gs lol

GideonGono

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★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!

Apparently the boycott is serious enough that PayPal suspended online account cancellations. Now you have to call the and beg them to close it.

Mistafreeze

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Quote from: GeniuSxBoY on July 27, 2011, 12:54:22 PM

I'm one of the most chronic complainers on the Internet.

But I've got to admit, paypal does not cross the line.

1) They provide a service. They deserve to make money.
2) The Internet is a fraudulent place. They deserve to protect themselves.
3) The only people complaining are the dishonest Internet scammers who have not been wronged in any way, shape, or form yet have an objective of staging a paypal protest against what? Nothing.

The only people that PayPal protects are the buyers that send you back their broken item that they replaced with yours. And of course, they get their money back too, leaving the seller screwed.

Every. Single. Time.

Jaime Frontero

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Quote from: coingenuity on July 27, 2011, 01:19:34 PM

I am personally experienced with the crap that PayPal pulls. Yeah, for the every-day user, they're fine. But when it comes to merchant services, they're completely terrible. All in all, the least pleasurable experience with any company that I've had, ever. So, I won't participate for or against since PayPal is disused in my life anyway, but I'd recommend being wary of their reputation if you're a merchant.

[emphasis mine]

paypal (and ebay) are seemingly dedicated to the idea that the customer is always wrong.

they make their money exclusively from sellers (i.e., the receivers of transaction benefits) - and since that is the case, their customers are sellers. and yet they will always side with third parties from whom they don't make a dime (buyers).

it's the strangest relationship i've ever seen. i don't understand how it has lasted as long as it has.

coingenuity

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I am personally experienced with the crap that PayPal pulls. Yeah, for the every-day user, they're fine. But when it comes to merchant services, they're completely terrible. All in all, the least pleasurable experience with any company that I've had, ever. So, I won't participate for or against since PayPal is disused in my life anyway, but I'd recommend being wary of their reputation if you're a merchant.

datguywhowanders

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Quote from: Jaime Frontero on July 27, 2011, 01:08:19 PM

Quote from: GeniuSxBoY on July 27, 2011, 12:58:27 PM

No offense, but paypals policies are there for a REASON.

They didn't start out being so strict. The policies piled on after people exploited any leeway they could find in the system.

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I dislike Paypal, but I can't drop them until I have a similar replacement.

Furthermore, any replacement will have the same policies because they have to.

well, no.

Bitcoin is a replacement for paypal, and none of paypal's policies in re chargebacks, fees, account cancellation or anything else, exist (or could even be implemented) in Bitcoin. we'll get there.

+1

And look at the spin-off press we're getting as a result!
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2011/07/5-alternatives-to-paypal-as-anonymous-organises-boycott-oppaypal.html

Last on the list, but we're on the list Wink

Jaime Frontero

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Quote from: GeniuSxBoY on July 27, 2011, 12:58:27 PM

No offense, but paypals policies are there for a REASON.

They didn't start out being so strict. The policies piled on after people exploited any leeway they could find in the system.

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I dislike Paypal, but I can't drop them until I have a similar replacement.

Furthermore, any replacement will have the same policies because they have to.

well, no.

Bitcoin is a replacement for paypal, and none of paypal's policies in re chargebacks, fees, account cancellation or anything else, exist (or could even be implemented) in Bitcoin. we'll get there.

flug

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Quote from: wumpus on July 27, 2011, 12:41:50 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Those 20,000 self terminated accounts aren't even noticeable.

That's the reply of all anti-protesters, everywhere. "Whatever you do, it won't make a dent". I believe they call it learned helplessness. If enough people believe that, there will never be any dissent

In practice you only need a certain critical mass, network effects and mouth-to-mouth will take care of the rest.

+1

And why not do the right thing, just for the hell of it, without any attachment to the outcome.

wumpus

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No Maps for These Territories

Quote from: GeniuSxBoY on July 27, 2011, 12:58:27 PM

Furthermore, any replacement will have the same policies because they have to.

So they blocked Wikileaks because they had to? Don't joke.

Jaime Frontero

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Quote from: Smalleyster on July 27, 2011, 12:53:29 PM

http://scienceblog.com/46622/minority-rules-scientists-discover-tipping-point-for-the-spread-of-ideas/

yes. i read that last night. very interesting: analogous to margaret mead's small group of dedicated people. mead would appear to have grasped the concept intuitively.

phillipsjk

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Let the chips fall where they may.

Quote from: GeniuSxBoY on July 27, 2011, 12:54:22 PM

I'm one of the most chronic complainers on the Internet.

But I've got to admit, paypal does not cross the line.

1) They provide a service. They deserve to make money.
2) The Internet is a fraudulent place. They deserve to protect themselves.
3) The only people complaining are the dishonest Internet scammers who have not been wronged in any way, shape, or form yet have an objective of staging a paypal protest against what? Nothing.

I read fine-print. I can't use Paypal because even if I agreed to their terms of service, I can't fund my paypal account because I don't use credit cards or online banking..

Basically, if I try to pay somebody via Paypal, I have no assurance that both our accounts won't be frozen.

GeniuSxBoY

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No offense, but paypals policies are there for a REASON.

They didn't start out being so strict. The policies piled on after people exploited any leeway they could find in the system.

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I dislike Paypal, but I can't drop them until I have a similar replacement.

Furthermore, any replacement will have the same policies because they have to.

Vod

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Licking my boob since 1970

I do a lot of online work for people I have never met. I dislike Paypal, but I can't drop them until I have a similar replacement. Undecided

GeniuSxBoY

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I'm one of the most chronic complainers on the Internet.

But I've got to admit, paypal does not cross the line.

1) They provide a service. They deserve to make money.
2) The Internet is a fraudulent place. They deserve to protect themselves.
3) The only people complaining are the dishonest Internet scammers who have not been wronged in any way, shape, or form yet have an objective of staging a paypal protest against what? Nothing.

Smalleyster

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I yam what I yam. - Popeye

http://scienceblog.com/46622/minority-rules-scientists-discover-tipping-point-for-the-spread-of-ideas/

wumpus

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Those 20,000 self terminated accounts aren't even noticeable.

That's the reply of all anti-protesters, everywhere. "Whatever you do, it won't make a dent". I believe they call it learned helplessness. If enough people believe that, there will never be any dissent

In practice you only need a certain critical mass, network effects and mouth-to-mouth will take care of the rest.

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