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Quote from: Alphakilo on April 12, 2023, 12:40:54 PM

Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.
Gambling for fun and gambling with the intentions to make much money are not the same. People who think that gambling has a certain strategy are those that want to make a living from gambling. Gambling is a fun thing and nothing more.

There are gambling strategies actually working perfectly for some people but not a must that we use same strategies others are using for our own, everyone has to think about what's best for them and adopt using any strategy they think is best for themselves, we should also be reminded that gambling takes risk, despite the more we get involved in it doesn't mean we must alwa win or loose in whenever we gambling because the main focus was to have fun.

There is no strategy that working perfectly, if it does exist means that there are some people who become billionaire by using the strategy.
If you say strategies are working perfectly means that it will never failed and it should be able to be used by all gamblers.
However I think you want to say that there are some gamblers who win some money by using specific strategy but it does not mean that the strategy is working perfectly because these gamblers may lose their money as well using the same strategy.

There's no indeed strategy on which we should bare up into our minds that these things are really just making that games to prolong out but doesnt mean that it would be increasing out your chances of winning.

Well, it cant really be just avoided for you not to mind on that you would be having some advantages on making use of these strategies which it is really that something a normal or common approach.

Just go with the flow and make use of strategies on making your capital to sustain for longer duration or time spent on gambling if you are really that looking or finding for leisure.
If you are really that looking for that thing then you wont really be making yourself that desperate.

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 13, 2023, 02:16:19 PM

There is no strategy that working perfectly, if it does exist means that there are some people who become billionaire by using the strategy.
If you say strategies are working perfectly means that it will never failed and it should be able to be used by all gamblers.
However I think you want to say that there are some gamblers who win some money by using specific strategy but it does not mean that the strategy is working perfectly because these gamblers may lose their money as well using the same strategy.

Well, it seems that what you said is the most appropriate wording and I agree with what you said, no strategy works perfectly and this is the most correct answer to the statement that the OP said in this thread. in the process, every gambler has a different understanding regarding gambling. some people say that there is no strategy in gambling, some others believe that gambling always requires a strategy. although each person has a different definition or version regarding the gambling strategy itself.

But for sure, there will always be related pros and cons which we discuss in this thread. even so, everyone will agree that in every gambling / betting will always involve a factor of luck. be it for amateur gamblers, even professional gamblers are no exception. by the way, overall I agree with what you said in this post.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on April 12, 2023, 12:40:54 PM

Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.
Gambling for fun and gambling with the intentions to make much money are not the same. People who think that gambling has a certain strategy are those that want to make a living from gambling. Gambling is a fun thing and nothing more.

There are gambling strategies actually working perfectly for some people but not a must that we use same strategies others are using for our own, everyone has to think about what's best for them and adopt using any strategy they think is best for themselves, we should also be reminded that gambling takes risk, despite the more we get involved in it doesn't mean we must alwa win or loose in whenever we gambling because the main focus was to have fun.

There is no strategy that working perfectly, if it does exist means that there are some people who become billionaire by using the strategy.
If you say strategies are working perfectly means that it will never failed and it should be able to be used by all gamblers.
However I think you want to say that there are some gamblers who win some money by using specific strategy but it does not mean that the strategy is working perfectly because these gamblers may lose their money as well using the same strategy.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 13, 2023, 07:29:10 AM

Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

There is a strategy but I think what you are trying to say is there are no strategies that can work 100% in gambling but if it can increase our winning chance by some percent then why not make use of it? There are different types of strategies and maybe there are some who are useless because the game fully depends on luck.

When I am playing those types of games, I don't usually apply a strategy because I think the result will still be the same. I will only waste my time and it can cause some disappointment if I lose while I'm using a strategy. To play for fun or profit, indeed that we must only spend money that we can afford to lose so that things are not going to be hard later on.

Yes, if there is a strategy, we must use it. But from what I've experienced that strategy is useless at all, instead it makes me unable to enjoy the game. Strategy usually requires us to focus, and for me personally it detracts from my enjoyment of playing. especially me who sometimes plays while enjoying food and other relaxing things.
I meet a lot of friends who always talk about strategy and the result is that they still lose just like me who doesn't use any strategy. And what @libert19 said is true, don't misinterpret strategy, because the strategy that is meant in gambling is how to manage finances so as not to go over the limit.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on April 12, 2023, 12:40:54 PM

Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.
Gambling for fun and gambling with the intentions to make much money are not the same. People who think that gambling has a certain strategy are those that want to make a living from gambling. Gambling is a fun thing and nothing more.

There are gambling strategies actually working perfectly for some people but not a must that we use same strategies others are using for our own, everyone has to think about what's best for them and adopt using any strategy they think is best for themselves, we should also be reminded that gambling takes risk, despite the more we get involved in it doesn't mean we must alwa win or loose in whenever we gambling because the main focus was to have fun.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 13, 2023, 07:29:10 AM

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Yes, if you take a large number of bets (distance), then the result will always be equal to the casino margin. Even if we put two players at roulette, for example, and one will have the task of winning as much as possible, and the other, on the contrary, will have to lose as quickly as possible, then if they have an adequate limit on the size of the bet (so that they cannot go all-in), then at the end they end up with roughly the same result. It may even turn out that the one who wanted to lose will have a better balance than the one who tried to win.

I used to use this strategy with my friends in live roulette or roulette in my city. my friend is in charge of putting up to lose and me to win so that the results are certain and still get a profit by calculating all the bets.
but unfortunately this strategy will still lose to the dealer when one day the ball stops at a number that I didn't choose and my friend didn't choose either.

any strategy in the real casino is still based on luck alone and you have to be brave to take risks.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 13, 2023, 07:29:10 AM

There is a strategy but I think what you are trying to say is there are no strategies that can work 100% in gambling but if it can increase our winning chance by some percent then why not make use of it? There are different types of strategies and maybe there are some who are useless because the game fully depends on luck.

When I am playing those types of games, I don't usually apply a strategy because I think the result will still be the same. I will only waste my time and it can cause some disappointment if I lose while I'm using a strategy. To play for fun or profit, indeed that we must only spend money that we can afford to lose so that things are not going to be hard later on.

Yes, if you take a large number of bets (distance), then the result will always be equal to the casino margin. Even if we put two players at roulette, for example, and one will have the task of winning as much as possible, and the other, on the contrary, will have to lose as quickly as possible, then if they have an adequate limit on the size of the bet (so that they cannot go all-in), then at the end they end up with roughly the same result. It may even turn out that the one who wanted to lose will have a better balance than the one who tried to win.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

There is a strategy but I think what you are trying to say is there are no strategies that can work 100% in gambling but if it can increase our winning chance by some percent then why not make use of it? There are different types of strategies and maybe there are some who are useless because the game fully depends on luck.

When I am playing those types of games, I don't usually apply a strategy because I think the result will still be the same. I will only waste my time and it can cause some disappointment if I lose while I'm using a strategy. To play for fun or profit, indeed that we must only spend money that we can afford to lose so that things are not going to be hard later on.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

Gambling is never a parade of skills but literally it’s more on luck, and so even if you have the best strategies to gamble, that won’t guarantee profits as gambling is still mostly dependent on luck. However, if you have the luck and great working strategies altogether, I think profiting ahead is clear enough. But if you have strategies alone, that won’t make you easily profit in gambling. So gamble for fun, and not for profits.

Gambling isn't always just about luck, and it also entirely depends on what kind of gambling one's doing. There are plenty of types of gambling games where skill is critical, and knowing what you're doing is 50% of the battle, making luck simply not enough. Black Jack for example is in large part a game of skill. I would argue the same for Poker. Of course there are games like roulette which are largely luck, but even that game requires skill.

Black Jack is not entirely a game of skill as the cards that you get will determine the level of your luck, I know there is a strategy called card counting for Black Jack but it isn't something that everyone can do nor it's so easy to determine how you can win a game. It might even be a working strategy if you are gambling at a land-based casino, but in online casinos, the game is totally based on your luck.

Poker is arguably a game of skill, I agree with that. But apart from that, except for sports betting, all gambling games are mainly based on one's luck and whether a person will win or lose depends on their luck.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spending on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

This is true, many don't understand this, understanding this is understanding peace, gambling shouldn't be your sole way of getting rich, you will get burnt pretty fast, it is better to gamble like you are playing a video game, it's a luck game this time around so use the money you won't be needing any time soon.

The reason why many got rekt while gambling is because of the unrealistic expectations and the unrealistic dreams they want to fulfill through gambling.

Gambling should be for fun and nothing more than having fun and entertaining yourself, but gambling has strategies. What is needed is to never go against your strategy and never go beyond your budget. As a gambler, you can use strategy or use no strategy, but what make something fun for someone can make it not fun for another person. Because you do not like using any strategy is the fun you have while gambling, but having strategy is the fun for another person. What is important overall is discipline of emotion not to overcome you while gamble.

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Quote from: alastantiger on April 11, 2023, 11:58:41 AM

People that think that gambling has a strategy for winning are those that makes gambling as a means of source of income or they want to make a living from gambling.

Well, even those that want to have fun. They want to know those strategies. You're not just here to have fun and lose everything, as much as you want, you want to see your bets and money win some money back even if you're just a casual gambler.

Even though they are on gambling sites for fun, they will not be willing to lose too much money just for fun.
Gamblers who say they are playing for fun are just small thoughts because in their minds, their thoughts will always be filled with the hope that a win can provide an advantage.
That's why every gambler definitely wants a strategy that is good enough so that they can still play for fun but on the other hand they can win and reduce the percentage of losses.
After all, many gamblers are starting to find out ways or steps to minimize the number of losses.

That's right, you just expect that your money won't come back anymore once you stepped into the casino whether it's physical or online. But to say that you're good to lose everything seems not right, a gambler for fun or not doesn't want to just giveaway the money he's got into the casino and doesn't have any thoughts of winning. Well, winning back is another topic to talk about but you just don't give it willingly as you gamble and you don't lose that enthusiasm of winning in an instant. Why not just give it outrightly to the casino if you aren't thinking of winning and let them have your money anyway since you're not thinking of winning regardless of your reasons to gamble? The idea of winning is always there but you set boundaries that whether you win or lose, you're not heavy hearted with any of them.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

Easy to say but when you are on the losing side of things then it would really be totally different in speaking about losing which it would be normal that you would be having that kind of common reaction which you would really be that disappointed on the current situation you are in.For those people who do accept their fate on the time that they do gamble and accepting their losses then its good as long they do able to get that leisure time but its normal to have still those impulsive reactions along the way.

Strategies is just really some things that would be spicing up your gameplay and it isnt something that guaranteed out profits or assurance that you would be having a good run.
This is why it would really be depending on your approach and emotion towards your gambling session.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on April 12, 2023, 12:40:54 PM

Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.
Gambling for fun and gambling with the intentions to make much money are not the same. People who think that gambling has a certain strategy are those that want to make a living from gambling. Gambling is a fun thing and nothing more.

I guess, it's not that simple. and we can't generalize to all gambling. in fact, there are some bets that require technique or strategy and one simple example is poker. if we talk about pure luck-based gambling games, I agree with what you say. but actually what we discuss there will always be pros and cons. The reason is, there are many gamblers who believe that every game has its own tricks. although, the game is purely based on luck, yes, apart from myths or just mere justification.

As I said, that not all of us can generalize for all types of gambling. for example, I like to bet on football. I'm not saying that in sports betting you need strategy. however, we will always involve many factors in every betting consideration. I usually call it a technique or method, some other gamblers say strategy. in fact, there's nothing wrong with that. One more thing, I agree with what you said, that the idea of gambling for fun is the most appropriate choice of words. it's just that, it's not very nice to say, if people who have a strategy are equated with people who make a living from gambling. believe me, almost every gambler wants to win, because that's the sensation we get from the fun side of gambling.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

I've always gambled just for fun, but at the same time I'm aware of many peeps who are using gambling to make a living. I've never asked what they're doing to be successful but they're probably using some kind of system or strategy. I mostly do betting and I have to say that it's very hard to earn money by placing impulsive bets or just following any kind of betting tips.

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Quote from: Alphakilo on April 12, 2023, 12:40:54 PM

Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.

There is no winning strategy towards gambling, especially when it comes to casino gambling. The closest you could come is in the sportsbook but even that too comes without any assurance as you still could be beaten on your best bet.

Though, there is nothing wrong with having a style or format of play. It's one way to ensure control over what funds your ready to gamble with and how many tries you would want to take before you either win or exhaust your gambling funds.

It's aways cool you approach gambling with some permutation, even though it's a game of luck.

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Certainly there is no strategies in gambling. And if by any means there is any strategy then it should be the cautions to gamble or to gamblers.
Gambling for fun and gambling with the intentions to make much money are not the same. People who think that gambling has a certain strategy are those that want to make a living from gambling. Gambling is a fun thing and nothing more.

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Quote from: Getmon on April 11, 2023, 08:07:15 AM

No, luck is what a gambler needs. However, luck is unpredictable, it can be on your side or against you at times. We should not anticipate winning every time we gamble. Just gamble for fun, not with the intention of making sums of money. If you are fortunate enough to win, consider yourself lucky. Even though this is rare, there are times when we get lucky and win big sums of money.

That is what the OP is saying, that there is no strategies in gambling but we only need a luck to win on them. Luck is unpredictable so we must not expect too much but we should only play the game the normal way. If we win then great. If we don't want this to lose, we better withdraw it as soon as possible.

Quote from: Getmon on April 11, 2023, 08:07:15 AM

That is the opportunity to strategize, not to win, but to secure the prize without losing it again through greed.

This is the real strategy here, to make use of the money properly. Before, I am always itchy to gamble and I always end up re-depositing the money that I win but to be able to solve this, I just convert my profit in physical money. I can also use these money to buy important things in the house. If the winning are huge enough then maybe I will use it to open up a business.

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Quote from: Weawant on April 11, 2023, 07:39:33 PM

Generally, there's a strategy in anything that two or more people can do and be successful at, which gambling is one of them. There was a report of some set of individual that use a strategy to win whenever they gamble and didn't get caught until a very long time.

Although gambling has to do with much of been lucky but you can also find a way to come out successful most times.When gambling just consider yourself having fun and not get pressured into wanting to win whenever you bet or you'll always encounter bad lucks.

Been luckily is one of the ways to always win your bet and there has been ways of making yourself lucky and been prepared is one of those ways, always be prepared.

I have never read anything more funny about gambling. Just be lucky - here is a unique strategy that will bring you success!

As for the presence of strategies in gambling in general (as in any activity), it is obvious that when gambling strategies are discussed, it is understood that they must be profitable. Losing strategies are of no interest to anyone and everyone knows them.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 11, 2023, 03:48:19 AM

Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

Lossing ain't fun though, and yes there is a strategy in gambling, but still it also requires luck.
Do you think analysing and researching about a specific match in sports gambling prior to the game isn't called a strategy? If you don't do that, you might end up betting on a wrong side.
Do you think a simple "poker face" in a game of poker isn't a strategy? You'll probably get exposed if you keep showing your demeanor and facial reactions every time you had a bad and good cards.
By doing these kind of simple strategy will give you lesser risk of lossing.

Apart from sports betting and poker, I don't think that any other game can be made less risky by using any kind of strategy, one can just play around with their betting method and keep changing games every now and then when they are losing consecutively to reduce the risk of losing everything at once but have more opportunities to get a win based on luck.

Your luck may not change completely in such a short time but this trick sometimes works in your favor when you take a break or keep changing games back and forth when you are losing and not winning at all.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 08, 2023, 09:12:41 PM

I think people don't understand that there is no strategy in gambling. Gamble but consider your spendings on it as an entertainment expense. Got luck on your side and won? Good. If you don't you still had fun.

Gambling is never a parade of skills but literally it’s more on luck, and so even if you have the best strategies to gamble, that won’t guarantee profits as gambling is still mostly dependent on luck. However, if you have the luck and great working strategies altogether, I think profiting ahead is clear enough. But if you have strategies alone, that won’t make you easily profit in gambling. So gamble for fun, and not for profits.

If we make a poll about what a gambler gets pleasure from, most of the participants will obviously answer that winning, because actually winning is what makes us play gambling again and again.

Therefore, all who gamble do it for pleasure, only someone is able to enjoy the game after losing $100, and someone after losing $100 is trying to win them back and gets not pleasure, but irritation.

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