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Topic: A warning about Alt-Coins - page 106. (Read 901725 times)

newbie
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October 09, 2013, 09:00:43 PM
Almost all of the alt-coins out there are going to be a waste of time.  They're being created to take advantage of people who get super excited about different things and then get pumped and dumped.

Be careful about wasting time with too many alt coins.

Be careful about downloading files, seems like there's plenty of wallet stealers around hidden as alt coin miners.
Seen some more of this recently, so wanted to highlight the point.

Here's some good info from later in the thread:
1) Don't just trust the status of a member, anyone can write 500 posts and be a hero member in a short period. This just means that he invested some time on his membership. He can always decide that a profitable scam will be a good payment for his time.
2) Never deal with anyone without doing a search in the forum with his nickname, in order to check if he has scam accusations.
3) Ask for his coin address and always search it on blockchain.info or www.cryptocoinexplorer.com to verify if his address has the amounts he is claiming.
4) Be very suspicious about proposals well under market price or if he accepts your proposal under market price with no negotiation.
5) Look for the reputation of the member (his successful trades, in the form of vouches from the other party on the deal).
6) Even if he has some reputation, never send all the money in one transfer: send one first very small tranche (0.1 btc might be a good start) and wait for his payment. Send a second little higher tranche and wait again, etc. Small increments, because he might decide to pay you the first and second, to scam a bigger tranche. Always suspect if he doesn't accept to trade in small tranches.
7) If he has no reputation (including most cases when he is a newbie or a Jr.), even small tranches are a risk. Better use an escrow system, like the one of bitmit.net, or a trusted member, or you might need to send over 10 very small tranches. It can be annoying, but loosing your money will be more.
8] For big amounts always use an escrow system, unless the member has an excellent reputation.

Since this thread is a sticky, I decided to post this here. Any moderator or member feel free to move, copy or improve these rules at will.



I think litecoin will take off in 2014. It is built better than bitcoin and when all the ASICs come out it will likely push everyone to GPU mining. My 2 cents...
full member
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October 07, 2013, 03:06:02 AM
I often wonder why there is no online wallets with the other cryptocurrencys

 Lots of them are just made for fun or to take of the load from Litecoin, to keep the difficulty from rising. To keep people busy Cheesy
newbie
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October 01, 2013, 10:21:16 AM
I often wonder why there is no online wallets with the other cryptocurrencys
newbie
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October 01, 2013, 10:09:46 AM
I'd like some more alt coins that are sha-256 since thats all that asic miners can run, I've tried multi pool but one of the more profitable coins were down, also your going to have to do alot of trading to unload all those coins to btc. Also the most profitable one at the time mining may not be the most profitable one come trading time so I'm just going to stick to the more healthy coins.
full member
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October 01, 2013, 08:01:18 AM
Nice guide, it actually helped me right now
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October 01, 2013, 05:52:49 AM
The only altcoin worth something is litecoin, and it is not worth much
Per unit it is still worth more than almost every currency in the world Smiley  That's something.

This is true, but I was thinking more in means of its durability, I don't think it will last
newbie
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September 30, 2013, 12:02:06 PM
New here. 
I was wondering if there was any way to let my computer automatically watch profitability of different coin minings and then adjust to the most profitable coin. 
ie
Is there a way of checking http://dustcoin.com/mining or http://coinchoose.com/ and, upon finding the most profitable coin to mine, have cgminer change to that coin?  [i'm talking scrypt mining here, but I suppose the same idea would apply to sha-256]
With all the variation in price, it seems like there should be some easy way to do this. 
Thanks
http://ctompo.dyndns.org:8083/Tompool/

Gonna throw middlecoin.com out there again. As Goldshredder mentioned on the last page the fees (almost 4%) are on the high side, but they do all the heavy lifting for you. They automatically switch between the most profitable coins, sell them, and then pay out in BTC.
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September 29, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
New here. 
I was wondering if there was any way to let my computer automatically watch profitability of different coin minings and then adjust to the most profitable coin. 
ie
Is there a way of checking http://dustcoin.com/mining or http://coinchoose.com/ and, upon finding the most profitable coin to mine, have cgminer change to that coin?  [i'm talking scrypt mining here, but I suppose the same idea would apply to sha-256]
With all the variation in price, it seems like there should be some easy way to do this. 
Thanks
http://ctompo.dyndns.org:8083/Tompool/
newbie
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September 29, 2013, 09:09:17 PM
Hi everyone! Can abybody tell me how to see the current difficulty of alt-coin through the client or any other way?

On the qt client there is a green check mark in the lower right corner when your wallet is sync'd to the network. Hover your pointer over it and the current block and difficulty will display.

Grapemon
newbie
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September 29, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
https://www.multipool.us/ is one way to automatically mine the most profitable coin.  I've not tried it, so I can't vouch for it.
Or https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cryptoswitcher-automatically-mine-the-best-coin-172121, which seems to be more explicitly what you were talking about (but looks to be harder to set up)
newbie
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September 29, 2013, 04:47:55 AM
New, hi!

Currently mining BTC via asic, LTC via 2 7850s (guiminer-scrypt), and attempting to get bitbar going, however, I'm having difficulty getting the bitbar wallet (0.4.2 / 0.4.3) to work as it's stuck on an old checkpoint and nothing I've done or read about seems to be fixing it (Win 7 64). If anyone's gone through the similar and could give me a pointer or two that'd rock Cheesy Stayed up until five this morn before I gave up. Lol.


How many euros did you invest?
And how many btc do you make every week?

I spent ~200-250 USD total for the USB Erupters, Hubs, Fans iirc. Mainly via Ebay. I've been using Bitminter but with crashes, lags, and some other issues between one of the hubs dying/driver issues I haven't had a week uptime fully. It seems like it should be about 0.07-0.1~/w. But difficulty just went up so am unsure. I could PM you a better stat in a week if you'd like.

After checking in at cryptocoin: 0.102/w
newbie
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September 29, 2013, 03:48:49 AM
New here. 
I was wondering if there was any way to let my computer automatically watch profitability of different coin minings and then adjust to the most profitable coin. 
ie
Is there a way of checking http://dustcoin.com/mining or http://coinchoose.com/ and, upon finding the most profitable coin to mine, have cgminer change to that coin?  [i'm talking scrypt mining here, but I suppose the same idea would apply to sha-256]
With all the variation in price, it seems like there should be some easy way to do this. 
Thanks
sr. member
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September 28, 2013, 04:53:12 PM
New, hi!

Currently mining BTC via asic, LTC via 2 7850s (guiminer-scrypt), and attempting to get bitbar going, however, I'm having difficulty getting the bitbar wallet (0.4.2 / 0.4.3) to work as it's stuck on an old checkpoint and nothing I've done or read about seems to be fixing it (Win 7 64). If anyone's gone through the similar and could give me a pointer or two that'd rock Cheesy Stayed up until five this morn before I gave up. Lol.


How many euros did you invest?
And how many btc do you make every week?
full member
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September 27, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
btc > ltc > ftc or mincoin (mnc) > dvc



What about xpm?
newbie
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September 27, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
New, hi!

Currently mining BTC via asic, LTC via 2 7850s (guiminer-scrypt), and attempting to get bitbar going, however, I'm having difficulty getting the bitbar wallet (0.4.2 / 0.4.3) to work as it's stuck on an old checkpoint and nothing I've done or read about seems to be fixing it (Win 7 64). If anyone's gone through the similar and could give me a pointer or two that'd rock Cheesy Stayed up until five this morn before I gave up. Lol.
legendary
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September 27, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
btc > ltc > ftc or mincoin (mnc) > dvc


tfk
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September 27, 2013, 01:39:37 PM
Hi!

I've been researching this bitcoin/altcoin phenomenon for quite some time now but until now I never had the courage to invest real  Shocked money into it. If I'd only known...  Grin

But the current financial situation the world is in at the moment makes me feel that my money is safer in a bitcoin wallet then it is in a bank account. A very weird development because the money system is the system I grew up with -we all did- and I see it collapsing all around me.

Some people say that bitcoin is a scam and some say that altcoin initiatives are. But then what are the initiatives you see in real life? For instance the Brixton Pound? A currency by the people for the people. And it worked (still does I think) because it does what the official money system should have been doing all along: function as a service to the people instead of being a system that's keeping people in debt for life. 

http://brixtonpound.org

And that is how I see bitcoin and altcoin. Initiatives started by the people to create a better system then we have right now. And for altcoin? I welcome every single one of 'em. For miners who want an extra chance to get into mining without mayor investments on hardware, for traders to have yet another alternative to go to when one system is attacked -I don't think the establishment is very happy with us-, see the recent events around mtgox.

Are some initiatives scams? Most certainly. But remember that scams are common in the official system too. We have to use it anyway. It's just like the real world isn't it?   Cool

So the one million bitcoin question really is: what makes bitcoin work and what could make altcoin work? To put it simple: trust. When people trust each other they are willing to invest in each other. The systems are a mere extension of ourselves.

I've finally invested into BTC and LTC. And I must say I've embraced both of them. Is LTC at a low at the moment? Some who were chatting on btc-e.com said so and were telling stories of imminent collapse. My message to those people: don't buy into stories of fear. Look at it from a positive angle: when a currency is low, there are chances of investment...

Just my BTC50cts.

TFK
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September 27, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
The only altcoin worth something is litecoin, and it is not worth much
Per unit it is still worth more than almost every currency in the world Smiley  That's something.
full member
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September 27, 2013, 03:43:32 AM
The only altcoin worth something is litecoin, and it is not worth much
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
September 26, 2013, 08:54:39 PM
even Zetacoin or namecoin are a awaste
Are you comparing a scamcoin and namecoin...?
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