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legendary
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There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.
There's a high chance that the KYC verification will level up in the upcoming years knowing that it is easy to falsify an identity and with our latest technology, Even selfie verification and face verification can be faked. I wonder if deep fake is used on a verification by someone and if it passed the KYC. I wonder how do the casino fight those who are doing Fake KYC and how can they identify if someone is doing it on their casino. It is more easy to fake an ID now compared on the past years.
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There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.
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There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
If someone uses a fake KYC document then it is a clear proof that he has done it for some kind of illegal activity so those who do so must be careful.  And those who are a real gambler and open an account and kyc on a casino site for the sole purpose of gambling they must use real documents. So in this case the gambling sites should observe the kyc documents well.  And if necessary, launch the Face verification system
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A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.


Granted, privacy is an important concern for many people, and there are legitimate reasons why we want to keep certain aspects of our personal lives private. I agree that many people do not want to sell their personal information and identity, however the way I see it, there are also many people who do not realize the value of their personal data, and they are willing to trade it for financial compensation.

There are many cases where people have given up their personal data for free, in exchange for some sort of service or offer. For example, if you sign up for a loyalty card at your local grocery store and get 5% off every time you shop there, then the store has just purchased your personal data from you—and they did so without having to pay anything other than the cost of producing the card itself.

There are also people who are not aware of how their personal data can be used to manipulate or influence them, or how it can be used in a way that compromises their privacy, and this is a problem. As consumers, we have to be vigilant and aware of how our data is collected, used and stored. And I believe we need to educate people about how their personal data can be used for good, and also how it can be misused by bad actors.


You're correct. Why privacy-enhancing features aren't built into these gambling platforms is beyond me.
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There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
hero member
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Well, as others explained there are many companies using fake advertisements to sell their products. Its not issue only at cryptocurrency markets, but all around. People randomly use web3, nft, metaverse words around. Like completely spilling them out to pull traffic.
I also agree with idea saying companies who trick their customers are not gonna last long. I personally hate when I am tricked and completely abandon it. Most people do something similar.
And even if we hate it once we are tricked, but I think that’s something unstoppable right now as different market goes with different way of advertising to the extent of fooling people around just to attract a lot of new users. And it’s too late to realize that you even became a victim when you get to experience their fake advertisements and feel unsatisfied with their supposed to be advanced offers and services.
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As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.
I think that of course any serious large and proven casino has such players for a long time, you can probably call them fans.  And like football clubs, they are interested in some kind of even a small support of the fan movement.  Likewise, the casino should take care and somehow contribute to the preservation of such players as fans.  Of course, these should be some kind of preferences, bonuses and similar things.
I think keeping the fans of the casino alive is just a serious and important task for the marketing service of this casino.

Now this is where we broadens the difference between fans and spectators and every casino must know which it has developed, as long as a casino begin to serve it gamblers right as they have always wanted then what such casino will have at the end are kinds of  gamblers that are fans while if the gamblers were the type that don't enjoy what's been offered then they were only catching fun with the casino through spectations.
legendary
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.

It is indeed a marketing ploy, anyone announcing their site structure and technology is to gain traction and attention.  They would like their player to think that the platform has one of a kind technology that can compete or even better against the other gambling platform.  But the conflict starts when a casino is licensed.  Even with running in web3 technology, the casino need to implement stuff that is within the scope of regulation of a licensed casino and that is KYC.  They need to comply else their license would be revoked thus costing them their business.
hero member
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Attract people, marketing strategy, or whatever they call it, they will need it to increase the number of gamblers playing in their application even if it means lying initially. Then, just throw them the TOS or Money Laundering Act when they start asking questions.
With the large competition in gambling sites, that is the hardest part of all, to have loyal players that will not just jump from one site to another.
It's not far from those who are using click baits to receive more traffic.

Having a loyal gamblers is dependable on the credibility and the reputation of the site, because why some of us jump's from one gambling platform to another platforms it's because of the change in the site and the new introduction of gamblling rules and regulations, so, so many people don't like changes of rules and a gamblling platforms that do not encourage their players with some small amount of token, so i Think that is one of the things that makes people to have change of mind in some gambling platform.
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A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.


Granted, privacy is an important concern for many people, and there are legitimate reasons why we want to keep certain aspects of our personal lives private. I agree that many people do not want to sell their personal information and identity, however the way I see it, there are also many people who do not realize the value of their personal data, and they are willing to trade it for financial compensation.

There are many cases where people have given up their personal data for free, in exchange for some sort of service or offer. For example, if you sign up for a loyalty card at your local grocery store and get 5% off every time you shop there, then the store has just purchased your personal data from you—and they did so without having to pay anything other than the cost of producing the card itself.

There are also people who are not aware of how their personal data can be used to manipulate or influence them, or how it can be used in a way that compromises their privacy, and this is a problem. As consumers, we have to be vigilant and aware of how our data is collected, used and stored. And I believe we need to educate people about how their personal data can be used for good, and also how it can be misused by bad actors.
legendary
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I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.

With todays internet popularity, many have been aware on what kind of risk is selling their identity to others but sometimes others have no choice especially if it is their only choice in order to survive their daily lives. KYC is not bullet proof but yes it makes criminals to do extra steps in committing their crime. There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
hero member
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I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.
hero member
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.
Casinos will do things that could give a huge impact on them and money no matter what it takes, sometimes even bet their reputation just to achieve what they wanted to happen. It is obviously a big trick that gamblers would think was more advance than other platforms but deep inside, there is no huge difference from the old one. Only some features might be changed but this will not help us to win the house, not unless we are too lucky.
I was preferred the simplest one because what is more important is that they don't cheat us gamblers.
I also prefer the simplest thing that they don't cheat us and don't try to do it. That's what the casino must pay attention to thrive. And if casinos ask for registration for new members nowadays, it's because everything has changed, and even the rules have changed. We as gamblers, also have to adjust to this situation, and actually, we are also not forced to follow the rules of the casino if we don't want to do it. But we are forced to follow the rules of the casino, so it's a like a path we choose for ourselves to play gambling. Actually, we can leave gambling if we think it has changed, but we can't do it yet, and we have to admit it.
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.
Casinos will do things that could give a huge impact on them and money no matter what it takes, sometimes even bet their reputation just to achieve what they wanted to happen. It is obviously a big trick that gamblers would think was more advance than other platforms but deep inside, there is no huge difference from the old one. Only some features might be changed but this will not help us to win the house, not unless we are too lucky.
I was preferred the simplest one because what is more important is that they don't cheat us gamblers.
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.
sr. member
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Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.
Web3 casino have the sole right to be decentralized but with the presence of so many developers on the ethereum blockchain given developer open platform to create whatever the want, that is why we have some many centralized casinos that does not give the player the necessary system to maximize their presence on the casino.
This is why those reputable casinos already know the need for community satisfaction and constant loyalty program for their players, but with recent updates, most casinos have instant withdrawal time. But web 3 casino like owl has some time gap in between and high fees also.
There are really those cons on something new that we are really trying to push through and just same as you mentioned on which Owlgames does currently offer.
IF we do look on what wallets could be used which are the ff;

MetaMask
WalletConnect
Phantom
Keplr Wallet
Sender Wallet
Near Wallet
WAX Cloud Wallet
Anchor Wallet
Telegram
Sign up with email
Pontem

You could really be able to point out that it would really be involving some huge
fees and slow transactions too.It does really have their own disadvantage and this is why some people would really be just simply sticking
into those centralized ones which do offer much more faster and cheaper when it comes to fees into their gambling activity.
If it turns out that it is something looks interesting and there are new ones who do decide to go to the path of 3.0
then its up to them but they should really be true on what they are claiming.
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Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.
Web3 casino have the sole right to be decentralized but with the presence of so many developers on the ethereum blockchain given developer open platform to create whatever the want, that is why we have some many centralized casinos that does not give the player the necessary system to maximize their presence on the casino.
This is why those reputable casinos already know the need for community satisfaction and constant loyalty program for their players, but with recent updates, most casinos have instant withdrawal time. But web 3 casino like owl has some time gap in between and high fees also.
legendary
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As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.
I think that of course any serious large and proven casino has such players for a long time, you can probably call them fans.  And like football clubs, they are interested in some kind of even a small support of the fan movement.  Likewise, the casino should take care and somehow contribute to the preservation of such players as fans.  Of course, these should be some kind of preferences, bonuses and similar things.
I think keeping the fans of the casino alive is just a serious and important task for the marketing service of this casino.
hero member
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Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.

As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.
sr. member
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There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on the gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are losing already.

Quite true once a new casino has been launched then the owner will not ai for a big profit from the gamblers. what you said above is true they must build their reputation first before they aim for a profit cause If they are going to launch a new casino they need to sacrifice which is very important to catch the attention of the gambler. They need to handle their customer rights and do their best to run their transaction fast and smoothly as this is the only thing that a gambler want in casino.

New costumer doesn't want to see an issue will exist to a new casino since this might be their red flag to avoid this casino so to get good reputation as well as good impression they must perform very well and make those transaction smooth for their costumer to see that they are really dealing with good casino also always do automate the withdrawals and never make it manually happen because many will doubt about it since we might think that they are taking controls and might will not release some of it in future.
Directly to be a red flag on which if ever someone do see that there's some complaints or having some trust issue then this would automatically give out that negative impression which is something a very bad

thing for a business specially if its really that starting up.When you are just new then it would really be just right on saying up everything or simply being honest.Trying out to claim something which isnt true

and on the time that someone will able to find out the truth then they could easily bust you off into those things you had lied, ending up that the community will really be
making those after words which would really be criticizing on what you have done.

Yes, you are right as a gambler once a casino has. An issues about withdrawal not once but more than twice then a negative feedback will be deserve for them.  But of they are not intentionally do that then maybe the negative will turn in to a neutral one but it depends on the situation I think. The only think they need is to handle their customer with care and be responsive all the time their casino will be long last and recommended.
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