A way to dump without having a huge impact of value - page 3.

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Quote from: joseyphil82 on July 13, 2019, 03:30:03 AM

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The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once

That's one good strategy. It would be better if the situation allows to buy-back after a dump occurs. But we have to really analyze the market conditions, volume, and strategies and good communication between the developer and the network.

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There are many way a dumped can be influenced. Firstly, no matter how a coin will be dumped. A good one will still grow organically. Exchange is very important especially now that many projects are not getting much investors. If the token is not listed on exchange with large traders, the token will be dead on arrival. Many project this days contribute little or zero money to development. They always rely on money being raised. Some do not even have many to properly build a website not to talk about partnership agreement. Such project will continue to struggle until it remain dead.

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Quote from: akungagal on July 22, 2019, 10:18:23 PM

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There is no way to stop someone to not dump their tokens when it is listed on exchanges. As investor you want to earn profit so you dump your tokens then buy again for a cheaper price. If the project behind that token has a potential then it would recover after some months if demands grow. But if it will be abandoned and the team are just into profit then dumping your tokens at the beginning is not a bad choice.

right, we can't control dumper.
they have their own thoughts, but if the development team is able to develop the project very well, investors will re-assess and i think the dump will be a little restrained, their projects will slowly grow again and bring many new buyers to come.

Agree, if the project is good and the developer team solid with the project being done, investor confidence will recover. The price dump on altcoin at bearish market is normal because investors tend to secure portfolio value and there is fear of market movements. But if the team can convince investors that the project continues to run according to the roadmap, investor confidence will surely recover

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Quote from: joseyphil82 on July 13, 2019, 03:30:03 AM

If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.

The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once

The reason for an investor to sell his tokens is because he doesn't trust his project. An investor must have calculated the loss or profit to sell the entire token because investors certainly don't want to lose a lot. If the project has large daily liquidity and transactions, I think a big dump from an investor will not have an effect on prices.

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Quote from: iMark on July 22, 2019, 10:46:14 PM

Quote from: target on July 19, 2019, 03:26:46 PM

It will have an impact even with just small amount.

no matter how much capital you use to dump, it will still affect the market, even if it's small.

selling small amounts wont cause a dump , the op already said it but that if all people will unite or will agree with that terms but i dont think itll happen since some of us are in-need of a huge sums of money . there were also whales that will sell huge amount of cryptos just to manipulate .

@op , dump means huge fall in the price . you should use different terms such as "decrease" or " small decline of the price" if you hate the dump .

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The way I do it is that I will really be watchful of the accumulated amount. This is also the proper way to dump so as not to affect the market much. I am always careful not build a sort of a sell wall that would only compel other sellers to sell their own shares at a much cheaper price. Although this has a lot to do with the volume as well, it is much better to spread your sell orders.

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Quote from: target on July 19, 2019, 03:26:46 PM

There is no stopping a person with large amount of tokens to dump and hit the floor. It will have an impact even with just small amount all the more with hundred thousands. Devs wouldn't be locking these tokens if there is another way. Some dev are just distributing 1/3 tokens per month.. That will slow down the dumps giving time for the real investors to sell the first but the inevitable still happens.

Indeed, because market movements change because of the actions of users and investors, no matter how much capital you use to dump, it will still affect the market, even if it's small. there is no way for you to dump without influence. back again on the dev strategy so that their coin market does not drop when a dump occurs, such as managing well disitribution of token on the market

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There is no way to stop someone to not dump their tokens when it is listed on exchanges. As investor you want to earn profit so you dump your tokens then buy again for a cheaper price. If the project behind that token has a potential then it would recover after some months if demands grow. But if it will be abandoned and the team are just into profit then dumping your tokens at the beginning is not a bad choice.

right, we can't control dumper.
they have their own thoughts, but if the development team is able to develop the project very well, investors will re-assess and i think the dump will be a little restrained, their projects will slowly grow again and bring many new buyers to come.

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Quote from: Chicky213 on July 22, 2019, 05:35:30 PM

If the dumpers have huge amount of token this actually have a great impact in the market. If the Team are financially capable, they can buy the dump and still stabilize the price.

You got perfect best team ever when they want to buy all dip price. By now, Team don't have finacially capable to do that, they only hope by investor to buy back dip and make it stable, or try to geting new investor and endorsing to social media and news official.

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The simplest way is to just ensure the token has sufficient liquidity. Obviously if they are listing on a trash exchange, or have some very large bounty token holders then it can be quite easy to dump the market.

To avoid this I would just lock the tokens in the smart contract until it either has utility, or is listed on an exchange with at least $50 million daily trade volume (top 50).

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Do you remember what happened with the BTCUSDSHORTS which were suddenly cleared off Bitfinex without hardly ever any affect on price back on June 30th?

Basically over 20000 BTC were claimed and it didn't affect the price at all since the shorter just covered his position by providing the shorted bitcoins.

That is one way to dump without having a large impact on price. Because he sold little by little instead of making a huge deposit and nobody took notice. If 20000 BTC was sent from a whale to an exchange then people would notice and front-run him by shorting before the transaction gets confirmed. Hence he did what he did not to get spotted.

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I agree with you. Selling tokens in bits will not affect the price so much, however dumping huge amounts at a specific time affects the price very much.

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If you are one of the big investors then it wont matter.
Selling at one point where there is profit already is a good decision.
Why would they wait for it to go back to a 20 percent loss where everybody is selling if you could do it right away.

Just like what is happening with bitcoin, no one can stop it.
We have our own choices here and that is one hell of a good feature for most of the time rather than being a bad one.

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Quote from: joseyphil82 on July 13, 2019, 03:30:03 AM

If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.

The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once

The major reason for tokens to lose value is because simultaneous dumping from bounty participant, they get only little part of the total token but that little part is the major part of the circulating supply, that's why the effect of hunters dumping is always more effective negatively.

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If the dumpers have huge amount of token this actually have a great impact in the market. If the Team are financially capable, they can buy the dump and still stabilize the price.

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Anyway, we will not be able to change the situation with the actions of large whales, who will always manipulate the cryptocurrency market in order to get more income. perhaps what is happening today in the cryptocurrency market is due to their fault.

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Whales, with their huge funds and huge amount of coins, have to move very slowly and silently. So, they can not dump all their coins at once without serious impacts on price. They have to do it gradually, and it is an art of whales. They usually sell their coins over time, weeks with some bumps along the road in order to keep price as high as possible for them to sell and get as much funds as possible.

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It doesn't matter to sell lots of tokens if the purpose is not to damage the price, and in fact, it has become the right of those who have tokens to sell or not. For the distribution of bounty payments in stages it is not too influential to prevent price declines, even a decline continues

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Quote from: zhekinsp on July 20, 2019, 02:18:05 AM

Quote from: joseyphil82 on July 13, 2019, 03:30:03 AM

If dumpers can dump coins and tokens in a reasonable way it won't affect the value much , lose in value when dumping happens if a dumper dumps huge amount of the token at once , this is a wrong way to dump coins, this is why till date some devs put locks on their tokens ,some even release percent by percent on term basis just to avoid huge dump.

The best way to dump is not to dump in an instant or a whole at once

I think that dump created because of lots of reasons so that we cannot say this is the only option available lots of confusions are always going on how we can go with that the same way that's why I am saying the impact is not necessary it will definitely increase very quickly.

It's the holders right to do whatever they've think about the tokens that they are holding, it's not fit for the dev to lock it out if they have a good plans regarding to their projects, implementations and if the team got a good backup communities that will help the project to grow together with real businesses and real usage will not affect the project to go and prospers.

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How about a whale methode, went he pump the price to make all people put the order after a lot people put the order and we have a big order book. He started the dump, just like you only need 1 BTC to pump and make a people put the order, the whale started to dump with estimation 10 BTC. Just like trade 1 BTC to 10 BTC.

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