A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread - page 3.

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 18, 2016, 10:14:18 PM

It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing. So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL

Yes

Even though I wanted to take a look at the rig. I sure hope they have done enough testing this round and this is the only round we need. I have only had my miners a week and am already tired of trying to invent a way to keep them going.

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 18, 2016, 10:14:18 PM

It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing. So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL

Yes

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It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing. So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL

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Quote from: firehawk71 on December 18, 2016, 12:07:16 PM

Quote from: Staggo on December 18, 2016, 11:54:29 AM

i still dont understand

To fix the A4 the 2 hashing boards must be Re-Flashed with a special Jig that re-programs the hashing boards. These Jigs are very expensive so Inno has shipped one Jig to forum member Longsnowfm. But there is only one Jig that needs to fix all of the A4 miners. So the group here is deciding what is the best way to get all miners fixed with just one Jig.. Hope that helps

To add to that the jig appears to be pretty fragile so the idea of shipping it around the US to fix the miners is probably not a good idea. I wasn't aware just how fragile this thing is until I saw some pictures posted of it. So having the jig stay in one place is probably a good idea.

I would offer to flash them here, but I know my full time job would get in the way of me being able to process these in a timely manner and getting these back to everyone quickly. So finding someone the community trusts to handle their miners would be preferable. This is a huge obligation that cannot be taken lightly.

The good news is that after reviewing the customer list we are down to 34 miners in the US that were purchased directly through Innosilicon. So maybe this won't be as big a problem to get everyone flashed as I initially feared. Just as a recap this only affects Batch 1 and Batch 2 miners at this time. If you have a Batch 3 miner you do not need to flash your firmware. You are already running the most current firmware available.

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Quote from: Staggo on December 18, 2016, 11:54:29 AM

i still dont understand

To fix the A4 the 2 hashing boards must be Re-Flashed with a special Jig that re-programs the hashing boards. These Jigs are very expensive so Inno has shipped one Jig to forum member Longsnowfm. But there is only one Jig that needs to fix all of the A4 miners. So the group here is deciding what is the best way to get all miners fixed with just one Jig.. Hope that helps

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i still dont understand

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 18, 2016, 10:52:10 AM

Yes, I am still waiting on the jig to show up.

Also I am looking for a consensus on how we want to proceed. So far I like the idea of having Prohashing flash the miners, but I want to leave this up to the group to agree. If everyone is cool with that I will reach out to Chris and we can talk through the details and start to get this lined up. I will also let Inno know what we want to do to get their agreement also. Thoughts?

I know that Chris has been in contact with Inno about the problem with coin switching and the A4 miniers. So Inno knows of Chris and ProHash which is good. I had written a email to Dominique about shipping a Jig to Prohash and I got a response that they thought it was a good plan for Chris and ProHash to get a jig however they wanted to ship the one jig to a forum member here first and just as you said let the forum decide how to move forward

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Yes, I am still waiting on the jig to show up.

Also I am looking for a consensus on how we want to proceed. So far I like the idea of having Prohashing flash the miners, but I want to leave this up to the group to agree. If everyone is cool with that I will reach out to Chris and we can talk through the details and start to get this lined up. I will also let Inno know what we want to do to get their agreement also. Thoughts?

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Quote from: cisA on December 17, 2016, 09:49:34 PM

How i can get the flash file? Huh

Once Jigs are received, more things will begin to happen.

As we say here, right now it's "Hurry up and wait"

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How i can get the flash file? Huh

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Quote from: Searing on December 17, 2016, 01:53:20 AM

Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this

Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China....

All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)

I hope they do, although they didn't for the A2, I would like to make a few changes for the cgminer for sure, I'll just be happy when we can get them updated and that actually fixes the problem and there is not another issue that requires everyone to update their stuff again.

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Quote from: Chris Sokolowski on December 16, 2016, 03:42:47 PM

If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America. If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing. We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables. If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

No objection here to this.

Quote from: Searing on December 17, 2016, 01:53:20 AM

Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this

Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China....

All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)

I hope so, they said they would -- my hope is they are waiting to stabilize the units they have shipped before releasing the open source software.

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Clueless!

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile.I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this

Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China....

All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)

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I just sent email out to customers who bought directly from Innosilicon explaining the situation. So you may see an email from me.

I know we have several people here that bought miners through other channels, but unfortunately there is no way for me to get in touch with people that did not buy miners from Innosilicon. So for those people I can only hope that they are forum members or stumble upon what we are doing here to resolve these issues with batch 1 and batch 2 miners.

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Quote from: Chris Sokolowski on December 16, 2016, 03:42:47 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:23:51 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?

If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America. If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing. We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables. If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

I don't really have an issue with this either, I was hoping to get a shot at using it. I still would like the files so I can flash my own but I know that is not for everyone.

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Quote from: Chris Sokolowski on December 16, 2016, 03:42:47 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:23:51 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?

If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America. If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing. We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables. If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

Thanks Chris, you guys have always taken very good care of me on Prohashing. I would have no problem having you flash the A4's and supporting the community. I will vouch for Chris.

Let's see what others think, but this sounds very reasonable to me.

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Quote from: Chris Sokolowski on December 16, 2016, 03:42:47 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:23:51 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?

If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America. If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing. We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables. If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

I think we should consider this option to have ProHash do the work. I have been mining there for almost a year and Chris and Steve are straight up guys that are always accessible and this is there line of work. They have there own forum where we could set up a topic just for the flashing progress. I would have no worries shipping my miners to Prohash because I know they are kind of a neutral party and a business. I would vote for this option and then if you wanted to work on a clone thats fine also. Thoughts?

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Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:23:51 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?

If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America. If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing. We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables. If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

It will be interesting when you get it, I am curious about the software end if it is a you pick a bin file and send it or is it a self contained unit. The setup looks fragile to a certain degree with all those floating wires and rats nest looking stuff , plus what is going on under the thing. I don't really see why we cant make a clone of the flashing setup. Plus I don't know why you need to take the fan off, I just unhooked it and pulled the back plate off that way you can hold the cards when you loosen the screw and pull one out. I don't get the two USB devices seems interesting for sure.

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Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 02:19:29 PM

Quote from: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 02:02:19 PM

Quote from: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 11:53:09 AM

As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.

I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night. So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive. If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.

That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?

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