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legendary
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August 02, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
#32
Trouble is, the Raja guy is deep in ETHTrade, but he's kinda rich and influential in the community over there in India (which is why he's put as the founder). The other brains behind the operation don't care about ETHTrade and wanna publicly denounce it (which NewsBTC recommended), but Raja is threatening them.

One of these members of www.ethereumplus.org travels to several Asian countries to advertise ethtrade.

Another member of www.ethereumplus.org made charity in the philippines to publicize ethtrade.

Which ones? I'm guessing it's not Sai Teja or Dinesh; they're the ones who wanted to denounce, and they run some legitimate businesses. But they've been silent for a little while now, so I fear Raja's combined tactics of intimidation and bribery may be having some success. They really only have difficult options, at this point.

you should probably keep a distance from this project.

I agree.

Well obviously nobody wants to be involved with this situation, but you have to remember these are human beings with families and stuff. I will be honest with you about foul play I see, but my role is to help people. Those people are usually somewhat naive, or else they would not need help. So if the possibility exists that they are innocent, I can't just flatly ignore them if they need advice--that would hamper my ability to determine their innocence or guilt, anyways.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
#31
Surprisingly, all the people involved are real.

I have no doubt of that.



I don't know why they chose to edit certain pictures like that.

I have an idea why they decided to edit photos of the 2 team members, a few weeks ago I saw something scary on a blog about ethtrade, I guess that's why they edited this photo



Trouble is, the Raja guy is deep in ETHTrade, but he's kinda rich and influential in the community over there in India (which is why he's put as the founder). The other brains behind the operation don't care about ETHTrade and wanna publicly denounce it (which NewsBTC recommended), but Raja is threatening them.

One of these members of www.ethereumplus.org travels to several Asian countries to advertise ethtrade.

Another member of www.ethereumplus.org made charity in the philippines to publicize ethtrade.

you should probably keep a distance from this project.

I agree.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 09:24:27 AM
#30
To your knowledge, do they have any other accounts on Bitcointalk?

I'm pretty sure they don't. They're not really part of the global cryptocurrency community very much. Schemes such as ETHTrade, OneCoin, MMM Global, etc tend to prey locally on newbies, especially in developing countries. One of the CoinFest organizers who does a lot of work in Africa is actually being sued by OneCoin for defamation.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
#29
I don't think everyone in the project was dishonest, although those who aren't were startlingly naive to get into this position.
They should not be sticking around, all things considered.

One of them said so, but said it was just Raja's friends and associates, nobody from bitcointalk or the general community. Neither I nor NewsBTC were even aware of it, actually.
To your knowledge, do they have any other accounts on Bitcointalk? NewsBTC and you should probably keep a distance from this project.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 07:47:09 AM
#28
...but Raja is threatening them..
This whole project, and everyone related to it, should be neg. rated.

I don't think everyone in the project was dishonest, although those who aren't were startlingly naive to get into this position. I'm not going to defend them or their reputations, though, if anybody wishes to pursue that; just trying to convey my understanding of the situation. I think it would make things worse if I didn't attempt to do so.

I felt I should bring it up immediately, though, because I suspect Raja is already collecting pre-ICO funding without the consent of the rest of the team, all of which he would control.
Speculation?

One of them said so, but said it was just Raja's friends and associates, nobody from bitcointalk or the general community. Neither I nor NewsBTC were even aware of it, actually.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 07:25:36 AM
#27
...but Raja is threatening them..
This whole project, and everyone related to it, should be neg. rated.

I felt I should bring it up immediately, though, because I suspect Raja is already collecting pre-ICO funding without the consent of the rest of the team, all of which he would control.
Speculation?
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 07:23:05 AM
#26
Surprisingly, all the people involved are real. I don't know why they chose to edit certain pictures like that. Trouble is, the Raja guy is deep in ETHTrade, but he's kinda rich and influential in the community over there in India (which is why he's put as the founder). The other brains behind the operation don't care about ETHTrade and wanna publicly denounce it (which NewsBTC recommended), but Raja is threatening them. I'm guessing the remaining team members are either in Raja's pocket or remaining neutral due to fear. Trying not to name who's who, there.

I felt I should bring it up immediately, though, because I suspect Raja is already collecting pre-ICO funding without the consent of the rest of the team, all of which he would control. Even if you believe in the idea behind this project, it's obviously not wise to invest under those conditions. In my opinion (which I might already get yelled at for expressing thus far), they are likely to split up, which will be costly for the remaining (anti-ETHTrade) team members but free them of scammy influences... those still interested should wait for that to occur and hope the project still has momentum to continue. I honestly can't tell you
full member
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August 02, 2017, 12:25:35 AM
#25


Look at his hairs  Grin
Not professional editor wakakakakaka
newbie
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August 01, 2017, 10:49:12 AM
#24
I apologize for Aditya Sharma. I'm not sure which member of the Ethereum Plus group he is, but he was supposed to stop posting such comments. I was going to wait until my knowledge of the situation was more certain before posting anything more about it, but it appears that the member of the group associated with ETHTrade is arguing in its defense with the ones who are not. It would really make my night easier to wait until they are done and I know what exactly is happening, but I could intrigue you all with the emerging details of their soap opera if this bitcointalk debate gets out of hand.

I am Community Developer for ETHP. Smiley Now when you understand and know whats going inside the room, hopefully you also understand we are pretty serious on reputation part.
I have been trying to focus on project rather than individual.

https://www.ethereumplus.org/
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 10:08:03 AM
#23
I apologize for Aditya Sharma. I'm not sure which member of the Ethereum Plus group he is, but he was supposed to stop posting such comments. I was going to wait until my knowledge of the situation was more certain before posting anything more about it, but it appears that the member of the group associated with ETHTrade is arguing in its defense with the ones who are not. It would really make my night easier to wait until they are done and I know what exactly is happening, but I could intrigue you all with the emerging details of their soap opera if this bitcointalk debate gets out of hand.
newbie
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August 01, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
#22
I understand we might not be on mutual platform, but putting such comments without any base is not good.


Comments without bases? You are seeing more than enough evidence linking the two sites.

If this Mr. Ramaswamy Raja is the founder of www.ethereumplus.org and is connected to the site ethtrade.org ( PONZI SITE)



 I have been replying to your comments doesn't mean I am founder or owner.

If you are not the founder and are not the owner of the project, why the hell, you answering the questions asked in the ethereumplus.org thread?




You pointed/ alleged couple of members involved in team, which i took to board and you will see the results soon.


Heh? I hope you are no longer a person to hack me every day, Dude I already have many scammers who hate me for having harmed their business.

You should not take revenge on me, just concentrate on doing something honest that you will have good results.


You seem to be some kind of paranoid, I am neither a scammer nor i want to hammer you. I decently requested you to avoid any kind of baseless debate.
If i am no hell to answer, at once lets agree. Then who are you a "Public Prosecutor" or waste man sitting idle with lot of time in hand to comment here there and everywhere.

On your point about Mr. Raja, I haven't crossed you yet, just wanted you all pay attention towards technology and mythology of ETHP. I am not resisting in any way to explore facts.
Please carry on with research.
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
#21
I understand we might not be on mutual platform, but putting such comments without any base is not good.


Comments without bases? You are seeing more than enough evidence linking the two sites.

If this Mr. Ramaswamy Raja is the founder of www.ethereumplus.org and is connected to the site ethtrade.org ( PONZI SITE)



 I have been replying to your comments doesn't mean I am founder or owner.

If you are not the founder and are not the owner of the project, why the hell, you answering the questions asked in the ethereumplus.org thread?




You pointed/ alleged couple of members involved in team, which i took to board and you will see the results soon.


Heh? I hope you are no longer a person to hack me every day, Dude I already have many scammers who hate me for having harmed their business.

You should not take revenge on me, just concentrate on doing something honest that you will have good results.
newbie
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August 01, 2017, 07:43:20 AM
#20
Any other Bitcointalk accounts that need to be tagged besides: The Bitcoin Co-op?

This guy @Aditya Sharma looks like he is who are being responsible for the project

Bounty status tables will be?

Yeah. We will prepare tracking sheets and publish it on the thread



There is this other guy @Ethereumplus Community

The link to the bounty info and others are broken. just FYI.

Edit: just figured out you forget the ":" on every link.

Fixed. Thanks for spotting.


I understand we might not be on mutual platform, but putting such comments without any base is not good. I have been replying to your comments doesn't mean I am founder or owner.

You guys have worked hard to figure out people involved in the project, but did not noticed the very basic essence of platform COIN/ SMART CONTRACTS. Apart from this no one can stop you if you have decided, but your freedom of speech shouldn't defame someone.

You pointed/ alleged couple of members involved in team, which i took to board and you will see the results soon.

Lets play fair. Biased is something not really required here.
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 06:30:37 AM
#19
You can lock it and then move it into archival for the time being. This option can be found in the lower left corner when you visit the thread.



I have now done so, thank you very much.

You are only giving importance to this problem because someone in the DT can give you negative feedback, you did not care about people, you are only worrying about yourself, your reputation.

I'm really sorry, and you don't have to believe me, but that's not true; I've done a lot to help people in the community without any expectations. I would have been acting the same way without threat of having the Co-op's profile tarnished. I will continue to do the best I can to prove that
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 05:51:05 AM
#18
Well I work at NewsBTC and I was told to, yeah.
Told to, by whom? I wonder whether the person who told you to do this was paid or is part of the project.

I didn't investigate the project, at all, and assumed nothing bad would happen. I recognize that that was irresponsible. I am willing to delete the thread... I will do it now, actually, which you can verify. I will update you all here on the situation soon
Horribly irresponsible indeed.

UPDATE: It told me "You cannot delete your own topics in this board." Do I need to contact a moderator to delete my threads (never done it), and if so, which one?
You can lock it and then move it into archival for the time being. This option can be found in the lower left corner when you visit the thread.

legendary
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August 01, 2017, 05:43:28 AM
#17
To add:

Nominee (member of the ethereumplus.org team)


https://www.facebook.com/ethtrade/videos/466322063728728

The founder of ethereumplus.org MR. Ramaswamy Raja







Please don't tag us

You are only giving importance to this problem because someone in the DT can give you negative feedback, you did not care about people, you are only worrying about yourself, your reputation.

unbelievable
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 04:43:03 AM
#16
Please don't tag us, if that means some kind of black mark, or something. I actually just put my job at NewsBTC on the line to reach out and force an investigation into the matter, and I am really not involved. This account is also jointly owned by other Bitcoin Co-op directors who are not even involved with NewsBTC. Our non-profit doesn't deserve negative feedback because I failed to pay close attention to a NewsBTC client I didn't pick up--I am honestly sorry for that, and trying to make amends.
If you are not involved in the project, why are you keeping the thread despite these *high alert* findings? Have you been paid to post the thread?

I assure you I have expended the greatest effort I can in getting to the bottom of this, despite launching my own (legitimate) coin at the same time while managing CoinFest and Blockchain Gaming. No money has been invested yet, and I would not allow that to happen if this was a scam. Until it does, I request being given the benefit of the doubt about my involvement in the whole situation. We're actually discovering some interesting facts, right now, and have time yet to uncover them
Remove or lock the thread in the meantime. I don't think people trust the wording "force an investigation" whilst you keep the thread open and let more people get suckered into this, highly likely, scam.

Well I work at NewsBTC and I was told to, yeah. I didn't investigate the project, at all, and assumed nothing bad would happen. I recognize that that was irresponsible. I am willing to delete the thread... I will do it now, actually, which you can verify. I will update you all here on the situation soon

UPDATE: It told me "You cannot delete your own topics in this board." Do I need to contact a moderator to delete my threads (never done it), and if so, which one?
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 04:37:45 AM
#15
Please don't tag us, if that means some kind of black mark, or something. I actually just put my job at NewsBTC on the line to reach out and force an investigation into the matter, and I am really not involved. This account is also jointly owned by other Bitcoin Co-op directors who are not even involved with NewsBTC. Our non-profit doesn't deserve negative feedback because I failed to pay close attention to a NewsBTC client I didn't pick up--I am honestly sorry for that, and trying to make amends.
If you are not involved in the project, why are you keeping the thread despite these *high alert* findings? Have you been paid to post the thread?

I assure you I have expended the greatest effort I can in getting to the bottom of this, despite launching my own (legitimate) coin at the same time while managing CoinFest and Blockchain Gaming. No money has been invested yet, and I would not allow that to happen if this was a scam. Until it does, I request being given the benefit of the doubt about my involvement in the whole situation. We're actually discovering some interesting facts, right now, and have time yet to uncover them
Remove or lock the thread in the meantime. I don't think people trust the wording "force an investigation" whilst you keep the thread open and let more people get suckered into this, highly likely, scam.
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 04:34:31 AM
#14
Any other Bitcointalk accounts that need to be tagged besides: The Bitcoin Co-op? This project just stinks of a scam.

Please don't tag us, if that means some kind of black mark, or something. I actually just put my job at NewsBTC on the line to reach out and force an investigation into the matter, and I am really not involved. This account is also jointly owned by other Bitcoin Co-op directors who are not even involved with NewsBTC. Our non-profit doesn't deserve negative feedback because I failed to pay close attention to a NewsBTC client I didn't pick up--I am honestly sorry for that, and trying to make amends.

I assure you I have expended the greatest effort I can in getting to the bottom of this, despite launching my own (legitimate) coin at the same time while managing CoinFest and Blockchain Gaming. No money has been invested yet, and I would not allow that to happen if this was a scam. Until it does, I request being given the benefit of the doubt about my involvement in the whole situation. We're actually discovering some interesting facts, right now, and have time yet to uncover them
legendary
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August 01, 2017, 04:22:01 AM
#13
Any other Bitcointalk accounts that need to be tagged besides: The Bitcoin Co-op?
This guy @Aditya Sharma looks like he is who are being responsible for the project
There is this other guy @Ethereumplus Community
Thanks. I will most likely tag them all as soon as I write up the feedback that correctly reflects on the situation. This is a "high risk project" at best.
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