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May 28, 2023, 11:03:08 PM
Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

This is correct. This is why I mainly bet on sports. The casino you play on doesn’t have any say on the outcome of the game. On other games (slots especially, but also sometimes live games) you might get cheated.
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May 28, 2023, 10:24:25 PM
But in reality, many gamblers do things like that where they don't have insight or knowledge about sports but also bet on a sports match.
They don't care about the beauty but all they think about is betting and winning.
A basic thing that everyone knows about gambling is that there is uncertainty. But before betting on sports, a gambler must have a good idea of that particular sport and also have the depth knowledge about the team's players. Previous experience in this field must be able to give you an idea. It is possible to predict which team in particular is more likely to win but there is no guarantee. However, some gamblers decide to gamble without looking at these factors.
It's true what you said and indeed it's better if gamblers have more experience and knowledge in the field of sports so they can more easily do research and make predictions so gamblers must start from the beginning to learn more about the sports industry to be able to have more insight wide.
But it's usually boredom and laziness that makes gamblers not want to do it.

But indeed, in football, past performance does not really guarantee victory, especially for the local league, so there will be a lot of manipulation that will occur.
You're right, but it's not just about football. This can happen in almost all sports. Where there is no guarantee. Prediction in international matches is somewhat easy but prediction in local leagues is very difficult.
Yes, it has been felt by most gamblers who like to bet on sports betting, this is a normal thing in the local league and we can all be aware of what is happening in the local league so that there are many uncertain results.
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May 28, 2023, 03:54:28 PM
this is a strategy I saw on this forum that casinos don't like people to do that kind of thing, I don't know if it would be correct for me to say that casinos consider it something like cheating, I confess that I don't understand how that would be considered cheating , from the case I saw here on the forum, the person bet on a game where he had an odd of @1.10 and put more than 1000$ in that game and with that he managed to get profits consecutively, but the casino limited his account and accused him of being cheating and with that the guy came to complain here on the forum, so I hope people avoid doing that because it can end badly
I would guess that it is a method not allowed by the rules? Maybe that would be the case, I am not entirely sure if that is the reason or not but I know that it would be something to consider. We all know that it is not going to be that great for casinos to ban people from gambling, if they do 1000 dollars for 1.10, they may win some in a row, but then they may end up losing it all.

So, if they wager 5 times and win, that's 500 dollar win, but on 6th if they lose, that's 1000 gone, so the casino is in profit. I do not understand why any casino wouldn't take that bet, let them gamble how many times in a row they want, it would be still a profit for them in the end if they do the right thing and I believe that they would lose eventually, all gamblers do.
That is odd, casinos give bad odds to the teams or athletes that are the heavy favorites as a way to incentive gamblers to take the other side and balance their books, so someone betting over and over again on them should not be too much of a problem for casinos, now it is true that such a gambler could win a great deal of matches in a row as they are taking the safest path available to them, but casinos given enough time should still come up on top, so I find it weird some gamblers are being limited by doing such thing.
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May 28, 2023, 03:17:14 PM
Betting on football is very different from gambling in a casino. You can't link it to work either, because that would be going too far. In that respect you would only end up with poker, but even there you don't have everything in your own hands and you need a good dose of luck to get some achievements. gamblers have their own ideas about certain patterns and people all have their own tastes and preferences when it comes to placing a series of bets. only common agreement is that it always leads to an empty bank account.
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May 28, 2023, 02:42:27 PM
Regardless of what kind of sports you are betting into, always make sure that you have enough knowledge about it so that your chances of winning will be higher. If you will impulsively bet on whatever team there is, then expect an unpleasant result because when it comes to sports, every factual information is crucial.

Sport betting is more about how educated you're are and informed about the sport you're betting on. If you don't have enough knowledge about soccer then don't bet as you'll make the wrong picks. For example yesterday champions league game I saw many choosing Manchester city.

But they almost lost the game and that's not because they played didn't play well but it's Real Madrid they were playing against that has a very strong history in the champions league and they were at home so how then did people think Manchester city can beat Real Madrid.

Sport betting has nothing to do with the casino as they don't have any influence on the game. If you know your sport very well then you can always have an advantage over any casino platform that you use to gamble and make lots of money from them.

In these bets there are many enemies of Real Madrid who help in the networks for the City to be like the Savior and avenger of them, it is something that cannot be avoided, as well as the emcoies of the fans will always be directed or redirected due to possible matchups that your team manages to win or lose, that's why many of the bets in the world are made with the heart and even though City is a very strong and very good team, I think they have to measure that Real Madrid is the defending champion , and a tie is like nothing, everything will be decided the next game back.
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May 28, 2023, 12:26:23 PM
About betting on weaker clubs, sometimes this can be a good bet if you really believe that this club has a chance of winning, the rewards are usually much greater when playing against the odds of the house and the other players.
this is a strategy I saw on this forum that casinos don't like people to do that kind of thing, I don't know if it would be correct for me to say that casinos consider it something like cheating, I confess that I don't understand how that would be considered cheating , from the case I saw here on the forum, the person bet on a game where he had an odd of @1.10 and put more than 1000$ in that game and with that he managed to get profits consecutively, but the casino limited his account and accused him of being cheating and with that the guy came to complain here on the forum, so I hope people avoid doing that because it can end badly
I would guess that it is a method not allowed by the rules? Maybe that would be the case, I am not entirely sure if that is the reason or not but I know that it would be something to consider. We all know that it is not going to be that great for casinos to ban people from gambling, if they do 1000 dollars for 1.10, they may win some in a row, but then they may end up losing it all.

So, if they wager 5 times and win, that's 500 dollar win, but on 6th if they lose, that's 1000 gone, so the casino is in profit. I do not understand why any casino wouldn't take that bet, let them gamble how many times in a row they want, it would be still a profit for them in the end if they do the right thing and I believe that they would lose eventually, all gamblers do.
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May 28, 2023, 10:21:44 AM
But in reality, many gamblers do things like that where they don't have insight or knowledge about sports but also bet on a sports match.
They don't care about the beauty but all they think about is betting and winning.
A basic thing that everyone knows about gambling is that there is uncertainty. But before betting on sports, a gambler must have a good idea of that particular sport and also have the depth knowledge about the team's players. Previous experience in this field must be able to give you an idea. It is possible to predict which team in particular is more likely to win but there is no guarantee. However, some gamblers decide to gamble without looking at these factors.

But indeed, in football, past performance does not really guarantee victory, especially for the local league, so there will be a lot of manipulation that will occur.
You're right, but it's not just about football. This can happen in almost all sports. Where there is no guarantee. Prediction in international matches is somewhat easy but prediction in local leagues is very difficult.
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May 28, 2023, 09:40:17 AM
It is just really a matter of looking at it objectively. Often gamblers are biased in their betting, it could be their favorite team, their favorite player, or just instinctively. Well, that's how gambling generally works. Gamblers bet to show their support for their team, to their players, or just for the sake of having fun. Very little is the chance that a person would go in and bet with their statistics because they want to make money, Those people are taking gambling seriously and in a perspective of business. In any gambling, there is always be an odds and one team could have the advantage over the other.  And it's true, chances could be a factor but it doesn't determine the actual outcome at the end. Anything can happen in any game.
But even though it's small, some people want to make money because we know that gambling offers that opportunity for people who want to earn money. Otherwise, there wouldn't be people who wanted to bet on sports and they were very serious about trying to make their money. And when they win the money, they will try to bet on other matches, especially if they know the match, the team, and where to play and they can do an analysis of each team. And sports betting is one of the sports bets that are very popular with many people, so everyone who wants to bet must have an analysis.
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May 28, 2023, 08:32:12 AM
Not only sports fans but also gamblers who really chase after winning will do sports betting even though they don't really understand and have a lot of knowledge about the sport being bet on but when faced with the possibility of winning they will also be interested in risking some of their money.
In my opinion, past performance and current performance in a team are actually not a guarantee to be able to win matches except in prestigious sporting events, maybe you can prioritize the skills and performance of a team to make betting predictions.
Have you forgotten that every match that you place a bet on can have an unreasonable end result because in that match there is a huge amount of money at stake so it will be easy to manipulate.
It's definitely bad if someone gamble when they're not even understand and familiar with the sport, they can't see and watch the beautiful of the sport.

Well past and current performance can be used to predict the future result even though it's not 100% work, but sometime it help. If you not look from the past and current performance, how you can judge both team or fighter performance and put your bet on?

It's true there were few matches manipulated, but I believe it's only happen on a small league, not the major league.
They will get nowhere if they bet on sports they know nothing about because it means they will bet randomly and put their money away. Maybe they can get lucky by doing so but luck will not always come to them.

Past performance can be additional information about how a team is developing and what it has achieved so far. And if there is a good change in that team, we can choose the team to bet on. But whatever it is, we better not bet too big, even though we know the team well, because we also have to consider if sudden changes can occur during a game and that has happened often.

We will not know which league was manipulated because there is no clear news about it and we can only guess. It's better if we don't need to think about the manipulation of the match because we don't know and it's better to watch the match while hoping that our chosen team will win.
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May 27, 2023, 10:25:23 PM
Not only sports fans but also gamblers who really chase after winning will do sports betting even though they don't really understand and have a lot of knowledge about the sport being bet on but when faced with the possibility of winning they will also be interested in risking some of their money.
In my opinion, past performance and current performance in a team are actually not a guarantee to be able to win matches except in prestigious sporting events, maybe you can prioritize the skills and performance of a team to make betting predictions.
Have you forgotten that every match that you place a bet on can have an unreasonable end result because in that match there is a huge amount of money at stake so it will be easy to manipulate.
It's definitely bad if someone gamble when they're not even understand and familiar with the sport, they can't see and watch the beautiful of the sport.

Well past and current performance can be used to predict the future result even though it's not 100% work, but sometime it help. If you not look from the past and current performance, how you can judge both team or fighter performance and put your bet on?

It's true there were few matches manipulated, but I believe it's only happen on a small league, not the major league.
But in reality, many gamblers do things like that where they don't have insight or knowledge about sports but also bet on a sports match.
They don't care about the beauty but all they think about is betting and winning.

But indeed, in football, past performance does not really guarantee victory, especially for the local league, so there will be a lot of manipulation that will occur.
I myself have been betting on football for quite a long time and I admit that past performance can only be a comparison, not a guarantee.

I also said that you can still count on prestigious events because there is little possibility of manipulation.
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May 27, 2023, 10:07:37 AM
Not only sports fans but also gamblers who really chase after winning will do sports betting even though they don't really understand and have a lot of knowledge about the sport being bet on but when faced with the possibility of winning they will also be interested in risking some of their money.
In my opinion, past performance and current performance in a team are actually not a guarantee to be able to win matches except in prestigious sporting events, maybe you can prioritize the skills and performance of a team to make betting predictions.
Have you forgotten that every match that you place a bet on can have an unreasonable end result because in that match there is a huge amount of money at stake so it will be easy to manipulate.
It's definitely bad if someone gamble when they're not even understand and familiar with the sport, they can't see and watch the beautiful of the sport.

Well past and current performance can be used to predict the future result even though it's not 100% work, but sometime it help. If you not look from the past and current performance, how you can judge both team or fighter performance and put your bet on?

It's true there were few matches manipulated, but I believe it's only happen on a small league, not the major league.
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May 27, 2023, 09:52:28 AM

Sports betting is always the choice of sports fans. It brings a combination of excitement and profit. Most sports gamblers bet on their clubs or sportsmen because of their love for them, hence they want to show their loyalty and support. Some fans can even stake on their club even when know they might lose the bet because of their teams' past poor performance.

Not only sports fans but also gamblers who really chase after winning will do sports betting even though they don't really understand and have a lot of knowledge about the sport being bet on but when faced with the possibility of winning they will also be interested in risking some of their money.
In my opinion, past performance and current performance in a team are actually not a guarantee to be able to win matches except in prestigious sporting events, maybe you can prioritize the skills and performance of a team to make betting predictions.
Have you forgotten that every match that you place a bet on can have an unreasonable end result because in that match there is a huge amount of money at stake so it will be easy to manipulate.
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May 27, 2023, 09:22:14 AM
About betting on weaker clubs, sometimes this can be a good bet if you really believe that this club has a chance of winning, the rewards are usually much greater when playing against the odds of the house and the other players.

this is a strategy I saw on this forum that casinos don't like people to do that kind of thing, I don't know if it would be correct for me to say that casinos consider it something like cheating, I confess that I don't understand how that would be considered cheating , from the case I saw here on the forum, the person bet on a game where he had an odd of @1.10 and put more than 1000$ in that game and with that he managed to get profits consecutively, but the casino limited his account and accused him of being cheating and with that the guy came to complain here on the forum, so I hope people avoid doing that because it can end badly

There are a lot of sports bettors who bet on the team or player that has lower chances of winning and the bookmaker has set higher odds for such teams or players, and sometimes, the bet works out and you win that match to get maybe 10x of your bet, but it isn't something that happens all the time.

today there is a game between dortmund and mainz and the odds before the game were as follows: dortmund had an odd of @1.18 yes it even looked like dortmund would win the game easily since mainz had an odd of @4.00, but what is happening on the field it is unbelievable, even before the end of the 1st half, mainz already wins and by a difference of 2 goals, that is, this is one of those cases where betting against the favorite can bring a lot of profit, there are still 45 minutes left for the game to end but at this moment mainz has everything to leave the game with victory

the return on profits is much faster in sports betting than at the casino.

actually in sports betting people have to put a lot of money in order to make a decent profit while in casino games people even with 0.20$ if they are lucky enough to hit a big multiplier they will be able to win a lot of money so with that it is easy to see that in the sports betting people risk more money to earn less money, of course the advantage of sports betting is that they do not depend on luck so that the person has more chances of making a profit if he has some knowledge about the game he is betting on
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May 27, 2023, 09:05:27 AM
Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

Sports betting is always the choice of sports fans. It brings a combination of excitement and profit. Most sports gamblers bet on their clubs or sportsmen because of their love for them, hence they want to show their loyalty and support. Some fans can even stake on their club even when know they might lose the bet because of their teams' past poor performance.

I will always prefer to play sports bettings than normal casino games because it will be difficult to manipulate match games. The issue of match-fixing is indeed rampant in some lower league but fixing these games are complicated, expensive, and have severe consequences. A casino owner can easily manipulate his system but the betting company has to meet player or referee to fix these matches. And match-fixing is also more expensive because players or officials have to be paid for misbehaving. The club and players also risk severe punishment from their local football regulating agencies and even Fifa. All these challenges make match-fixing or result manipulation minimal.
That's a compelling argument. I see where you're coming from, but are we overlooking some significant factors here?

Sports betting and casino gambling indeed differ fundamentally; however, neither is inherently less susceptible to manipulation. While casinos have mechanisms to tune the odds, sports betting is susceptible to various forms of match-fixing, often orchestrated by syndicates that operate across borders. It's an issue that transcends football, permeating various sports globally. And though these operations are risky, costly, and highly illegal, they sadly persist due to the high potential profits.

Betting on a team's performance doesn't inherently make the process "cleaner." Both forms of gambling operate within systems that are vulnerable to manipulation, whether it's tweaking odds or influencing the outcome of a match.

Isn't it better to advocate for tighter regulation across all forms of gambling, rather than assuming one is inherently more immune to manipulation than the other? What do you think?
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May 27, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
Sports betting is always the choice of sports fans. It brings a combination of excitement and profit. Most sports gamblers bet on their clubs or sportsmen because of their love for them, hence they want to show their loyalty and support. Some fans can even stake on their club even when know they might lose the bet because of their teams' past poor performance.

I will always prefer to play sports bettings than normal casino games because it will be difficult to manipulate match games. The issue of match-fixing is indeed rampant in some lower league but fixing these games are complicated, expensive, and have severe consequences. A casino owner can easily manipulate his system but the betting company has to meet player or referee to fix these matches. And match-fixing is also more expensive because players or officials have to be paid for misbehaving. The club and players also risk severe punishment from their local football regulating agencies and even Fifa. All these challenges make match-fixing or result manipulation minimal.
I also prefer to bet on sports because the dealer can't cheat me, for example football sports betting matches compared to playing casinos, most sports bets we can analyze the favored clubs or teams so it's easier to make a profit than playing casino, the return on profits is much faster in sports betting than at the casino.

Mostly betting on football is on the big leagues, because usually the little leagues often have a scoring mafia, aka fixing, so don't ever try to bet on sports betting on minor league sports, that's why you need to be careful also for sports betting because not all of them can benefit as long as we know what to bet on. always research and analyze better so as not to lose money for failing to predict.
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May 27, 2023, 07:44:26 AM
Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.

Sports betting is always the choice of sports fans. It brings a combination of excitement and profit. Most sports gamblers bet on their clubs or sportsmen because of their love for them, hence they want to show their loyalty and support. Some fans can even stake on their club even when know they might lose the bet because of their teams' past poor performance.

I will always prefer to play sports bettings than normal casino games because it will be difficult to manipulate match games. The issue of match-fixing is indeed rampant in some lower league but fixing these games are complicated, expensive, and have severe consequences. A casino owner can easily manipulate his system but the betting company has to meet player or referee to fix these matches. And match-fixing is also more expensive because players or officials have to be paid for misbehaving. The club and players also risk severe punishment from their local football regulating agencies and even Fifa. All these challenges make match-fixing or result manipulation minimal.
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May 27, 2023, 07:39:10 AM
Correct me if I am wrong

I am not a football fan and any form of prediction is still a gamble to me, but I have gamble on few different online casinos and I believe that gamblers on casinos gambles with the casino games, meaning it's between the gambler and the casino, but with football it is different, your bet is on the performance of a soccer team and the gambling platform will only win your money if your football team loses, right?

This makes it more cleaner to me, there will be no tampering of the system or fine tunning their games to make gamblers loses more than they win.

Can anyone confirm if this is right? Or wrong.
Everything you said is correct. There are no tricks from the casino or anything suspicious that will happen because you're gambling on a real-life event that no one can control except the teams involved. It's a fair situation for both the casino and yourself as a gambler.

That's why I prefer sports betting because it's a cleaner and safer option especially if you have a good knowledge of teams and players. When you are well informed, your chances of successful bets are higher. Sometimes, I have come across odds like @1.7, @1.8, and even @2, which are relatively easy when you have a deep understanding of the players and stay updated with relevant news. This makes it easier for you to place a bet, such as wagering 0.01 BTC on an odds of 1.7 and potentially making 0.017 BTC. (That happens quite few times)

Long story short, lately I've been consistently engaging in real event betting, mostly focusing on gambling on sports events and occasionally even E-sports (Valorant games).
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May 27, 2023, 07:06:29 AM
and with the bookmakers already making it easier with the odds, you could go and pick the lesser odds as those teams are the ones with the more likely chance to a win the match but the funny thing is that these bookmakers actually get these odds all wrong sometimes and mislead gambler to choosing the wrong teams.
About football betting, odds are not really criteria to focus on, many bettors know this and they don't rely on only odd, odds can deceive you. Bettors look at head to head performance, players involved in the match, team injury and fitness, zeal to win and nature of future matches ahead. I have bet a high odd game (in the number of tens) and it was successful against a very low odd of 1.45 odd and after that experience I began to understand that bookmakers may be wrong. So small odds are not likely having winning chance, you have to under study both teams to know the stronger and favourable to win.
Bookmakers are not wrong since they decide the odds based on previous stats and current team status and performances, they don't look at things that you've mentioned only to decide the odds of a particular match because these things don't always work, stats speak better for which team has more chances of winning, now chances don't determine the actual outcome at the end.

There are a lot of sports bettors who bet on the team or player that has lower chances of winning and the bookmaker has set higher odds for such teams or players, and sometimes, the bet works out and you win that match to get maybe 10x of your bet, but it isn't something that happens all the time.

It is just really a matter of looking at it objectively. Often gamblers are biased in their betting, it could be their favorite team, their favorite player, or just instinctively. Well, that's how gambling generally works. Gamblers bet to show their support for their team, to their players, or just for the sake of having fun. Very little is the chance that a person would go in and bet with their statistics because they want to make money, Those people are taking gambling seriously and in a perspective of business. In any gambling, there is always be an odds and one team could have the advantage over the other.  And it's true, chances could be a factor but it doesn't determine the actual outcome at the end. Anything can happen in any game.
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May 27, 2023, 05:08:03 AM
and with the bookmakers already making it easier with the odds, you could go and pick the lesser odds as those teams are the ones with the more likely chance to a win the match but the funny thing is that these bookmakers actually get these odds all wrong sometimes and mislead gambler to choosing the wrong teams.
About football betting, odds are not really criteria to focus on, many bettors know this and they don't rely on only odd, odds can deceive you. Bettors look at head to head performance, players involved in the match, team injury and fitness, zeal to win and nature of future matches ahead. I have bet a high odd game (in the number of tens) and it was successful against a very low odd of 1.45 odd and after that experience I began to understand that bookmakers may be wrong. So small odds are not likely having winning chance, you have to under study both teams to know the stronger and favourable to win.
Bookmakers are not wrong since they decide the odds based on previous stats and current team status and performances, they don't look at things that you've mentioned only to decide the odds of a particular match because these things don't always work, stats speak better for which team has more chances of winning, now chances don't determine the actual outcome at the end.

There are a lot of sports bettors who bet on the team or player that has lower chances of winning and the bookmaker has set higher odds for such teams or players, and sometimes, the bet works out and you win that match to get maybe 10x of your bet, but it isn't something that happens all the time.
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May 25, 2023, 03:23:19 PM
There are people who wouldn't dare to bet in an online casino or its games and would rather prefer to bet on either soccer or boxing because they claim that they have to watch and supervise the match by themselves  and that they also feel more safe betting on such games rather than getting involved with casinos and looking and judging from their perspective, you'll also agree that yes, soccer games seem to be more fair and no matter how probably fair a casino  might claim to be, there is always this feeling of the house cheating you and I think the casino is always built to have more house edge over its players because no one comes to a business to make losses but profit .
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