Topic: About Internet circumvention and censorship - page 2. (Read 3333 times)

Because it is. Sorry. Fact of life, oppressive governments don't like freedom. Especially economic freedom.


That's two years ago. We're well past that stage now. Satoshi would no doubt rejoice at seeing that Wikileaks now accepts Bitcoin, and is thumbing their nose at the CC companies and governments alike.

Yet, wikileaks still accepts  Bitcoin even now and Bitcoin is no way gone or harmed.

Yes. Except that most Chinese can't get them or don't even know they exist.

With his argument, we should delete all articles about it on wikipedia to "protect" wikipedia, which is of course absurd .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26999

What you are doing will make GFW feels this community or bitcoin is a threat to them


There are plenty of circumvention tools already.

The "protect" could apply to any website and doing so what rationalize imposing self-censorship in any and every website.

John's argument  much better a reason then merely impose self-censorship in order to "protect" the community. So I will stop posting here in Chinese. However, I will impose self-censorship on other none technically savvy website/forum.

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You have a interesting view about selfish and freedom.  "one of the most important interst of this forum is to let as many as possible Chinese join bitcoin community" That's true. However, when GFW feels this community or bitcoin is a thread to them, they could block all bitcoin related websites nevertheless. Without Internet circumvention tool, what  could Chinese do then?

PS: Personal insult will do nothing to strengthen your argument

Totally agree. I hate the wall but there is no point to advertise anti-wall skills here.

Please refrain from posting this here. The last thing we need here is getting added to the GFW list. I'm not based in China, but I do know the Chinese government's zeal for censorship - they either have a big pool of operators working 24/7 to add more websites to the list, or their automated system is amazing. Anyone who uses Bitcoin in China should have knowledge about circumventing the firewall already, so advertising this will do more harm then help.

please do vote for no.

the op is very selfish. he cares nothing about bitcoin's future in China.

Satoshi wanted wikileak stay away from bitcoin, and me now want the op restrain his anti Chinese internet censorship activity in English.

your tone of voice is full of moral advantage, which is 100% illusion and bitchy. there are tons of website and blog you can post about the gfw, you are free. but this forum is to promote and grow the bitcoin community , you're really son of bitch to endanger the community into the radar of gfw by posting it here.

this forum is about bitcoin.  you can say anything you want if and only if not damage thw interest of this community. one of the most important interst of this forum is to let as many as possible Chinese join bitcoin community, and the selfish post contain the key words which are included in gfw's list . it will be very possible this forum will be banned from China if we don't stop this. we might will never be able to see as much as many detuch or russian users register on this forum.

the op is damaging other Chinese's freedom to get to here by his off topic post.

对于关注这个问题的中国人，我可以这样说，楼主就是一个跟cai ling差不多的烂人。到这里来关注bitcoin的，在这个阶段到这里来浏览的人，大多已经掌握了翻墙技术。而官方网的爬虫非常强大，出现这类关键字几乎立马被墙。楼主居然站在道德高地上开vote，你太自私了。

我号召所有关注bitcoin发展的中国人，如果有和管理员熟悉的，给不懂中文的管理员写信，讲清楚楼主的行为对于bitcoin在中国进行推广的危害。我的一个私人blog，只提到过一篇跳墙技术，后来就立刻被墙。用英文募资可以，不要到别的地方转技术贴过来。你在损害整个社区的福利，实现你自私的意气。在这里发那些帖子对于普及翻墙技术的作用太有限了，对于损害bitcoin的作用却是极大的。我他妈跳墙这么多年，也他妈不是靠你这种烂人的“帮助”。

I posted a thread earlier on Internet circumvention in the Chinese section to help Chinese have better access to Internet including many bitcoin related websites. HorseRider asked me to remove that thread because he fears that Great Firewall of China will block this forum. So he rationalized his decision to self censor himself and asked me to do the same even though the external Gov. force is not present.







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