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legendary
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February 23, 2019, 02:18:24 AM
#11

The example you gave is not related to what the OP is asking, that one was farming against a user for plagiarism, what he is asking is a different thing.

I understood clearing that's why I said if he wasn't asking exclusively  based on his example i.e asking a general question if framed cases have been solved before that's why I provided that topic of a scammer framing an innocent users, to let him understand that framed cases can be resolved. then later went on to give my opinion to the topic based on the example he gave. Read my OP you'll understand my reply.
legendary
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February 23, 2019, 01:49:54 AM
#10
imagine someone sends you 100BTC to accuse you for breaking campaign rules? isn't it lovely  Roll Eyes

Most likely fraudsters will send tokens that are not needed by anyone, but it will look like a transaction between the bounty hunter wallets that abuse:

~Enrolling multiple accounts into signature/bounty campaigns~

It turns out that the fraudster can to frame any bounty hunter.

I think that in such a case it will be very difficult to prove one’s innocence. Therefore, I was interested in this question.

hero member
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February 23, 2019, 12:58:20 AM
#9
Normally the connection between two accounts can be only verified through the transaction between the two addresses t
Not with the abusers,they will surely tag those accounts even if theres a single connection with the merits.DT members love these cases,tagging people only with those merits thats why most of the people here are leaving because of these unrightful trust feedbacks.Alts? merits? date registration coincidence? nope you will still get tagged even if you disagree with them,one scenario they are making their own rules contradicting to what theymos woords..Abusive people shouldnt given power here.
People will get tagged for merit abuse and most cases they will left untagged when the send and received amount of merit is small because as theymos mentioned the don't want to see that people were getting tagged for these cases.But if people send 50 merits between their alts for a shit post then they will be tagged.
member
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February 23, 2019, 12:01:04 AM
#8
Normally the connection between two accounts can be only verified through the transaction between the two addresses t
Not with the abusers,they will surely tag those accounts even if theres a single connection with the merits.DT members love these cases,tagging people only with those merits thats why most of the people here are leaving because of these unrightful trust feedbacks.Alts? merits? date registration coincidence? nope you will still get tagged even if you disagree with them,one scenario they are making their own rules contradicting to what theymos woords..Abusive people shouldnt given power here.
legendary
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February 22, 2019, 10:39:44 PM
#7
imagine someone sends you 100BTC to accuse you for breaking campaign rules? isn't it lovely  Roll Eyes

And it would've been much lovelier if this false accusation will not succeed.  Smiley
legendary
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February 22, 2019, 09:11:27 PM
#6
(I assume people do not mind to send shit tokens to frame but they are not going to spend a good amount of money to frame others.)

imagine someone sends you 100BTC to accuse you for breaking campaign rules? isn't it lovely  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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February 22, 2019, 09:04:01 PM
#5
I am interested your opinions and ways to protect against such abuses.

I think you should keep an eye on your wallet. If you are receiving extra token then you need to become cautious.
Do not participate in shit bounties (I assume people do not mind to send shit tokens to frame but they are not going to spend a good amount of money to frame others.)
As mikeywith already said, if you are genuine and truthful you might get the help also.
legendary
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February 22, 2019, 08:22:10 PM
#4

The example you gave is not related to what the OP is asking, that one was farming against a user for plagiarism, what he is asking is a different thing.



what the OP is wondering about is certainly something that happens , by looking at the reputation section or the known-alts topic, you can see that many people get accused for using alt account with some poor evidence.

an example is this :  i join a bounty campaign, and i input my details as follows

wallet address; 123123
telegram; 123123

someone who doesn't like me , makes another account, apply with these details

wallet address;678678
telegram; 678678

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a week later we both get 10 coins, he sends the coins to my address , and then start a scam accusation topic, saying I used an alt and broke rules, i get tagged for something i never did.

let alone the obvious approach when that user uses the same wallet address as mine for an instance.


while the majority of these accusations are sadly true, some of them are not. a good DT member will not easily tag a member based on  evidence that can be made-up by the accuser, they need to dig much deeper to find more convincing evidence, but indeed there is no guarantee, you could very possibly get tagged as some DT members are so eager to tag for the sake of it, but you can always start your own topic and "complain" about the tag ,and in most cases , other DT members with better common sense will support your case, but if they happen to find you guilty you will only get a higher negative score.

legendary
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February 22, 2019, 05:37:04 PM
#3
I have one question. Are there cases on the forum when an honest user is framed by scammers.

If you aren't asking specifically for your example then here is a situation when framing happened and it got resolved but it doesn't happen more often.

I just stumbled upon a proven case of framing someone for plagiarism:
The scammer can take the original text from the forum, post on his website changing the date and write a complaint, and also delete it by editing it. We need to study this problem.

Back to your example,
For example, <***>

The account tagged has to try his best avoiding tagging by other members and appeal the tagged from the user that framed him then expose scammer with valid evidence when he try to ask for a random or give a reason why he framed you, you should also open a thread trying to convince DT members on Reputation board that the transaction was done without your concept

feedbacks which aren't from DT members have little effect on your trust score that's why you have to focus on convincing DT members you're been framed so you don't get tagged by them.


hero member
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February 22, 2019, 04:32:19 PM
#2
Normally the connection between two accounts can be only verified through the transaction between the two addresses they were used on this forum so yes they will get negative trust for abusing with multiple accounts.

Move this thread to Reputation section...
legendary
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February 22, 2019, 03:13:56 PM
#1
I apologize for my English.

Recently on the forum there are constant disputes and wars. I have one question. Are there cases on the forum when an honest user is framed by scammers. For example, the user participates in the bounty without breaking the rules and not abusing the system of merit and the system of trust. The scammer finds the public key of the victim in the Google table the bounty of the past or in the history of messages an honest user and sends a token with the account, which is also involved in the same bounty. Then he files a complaint against the user from another account and the honest user gets negative trust.

I am interested your opinions and ways to protect against such abuses.
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