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Topic: Account blocking for something that was not - page 2. (Read 702 times)

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December 03, 2020, 10:56:35 AM
#18
Not all copy-paste is plagiarized. I never tire of repeating that plagiarism is the theft of ideas or thoughts, and not sharing messages to the public.
It's very simple: if you didn't come up with it yourself, add a source.

I agree. But what did @Ateobreaking, who is called the author of the idea, come up with?
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December 03, 2020, 10:48:20 AM
#17
This is not a scientific article or creative work, but news about an award for the capture of Lukashenka. Can't you see the difference?
That doesn't matter, it can still be plagiarism.
LoyceV, I think you do not quite understand what plagiarism is.
Lol. I've only had a topic about plagiarism for 2.5 years.

In the context of plagiarism, the text should be someone's unique thought.
Good luck explaining to Bitcointalk the Administrator and Moderators have been wrong all along.

Not all copy-paste is plagiarized. I never tire of repeating that plagiarism is the theft of ideas or thoughts, and not sharing messages to the public.
It's very simple: if you didn't come up with it yourself, add a source.
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December 03, 2020, 10:33:55 AM
#16
It looks like a little of an article (what I see by google translate). It's generally done by some newbies or some users who want to promote their blog here in this forum. Just add a title and post the link to the article (Though it's not a good way). But they put the reference there. You did a mistake by not putting a reference link there.

Let's see what actually the rule saying.
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33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.


In fact, in the rules of the Russian-language section, this article looks much more prosaic:

33. Зaнимaтьcя плaгиaтoм зaпpeщeнo.

Which in translation means - plagiarism is prohibited.
Plagiarism, in my understanding, has exactly the same meaning as in Russian dictionaries and Wikipedia. That is exactly what I wrote about above.

copy/pasted

Not all copy-paste is plagiarized. I never tire of repeating that plagiarism is the theft of ideas or thoughts, and not sharing messages to the public.


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December 03, 2020, 10:17:08 AM
#15
No and no. In the context of plagiarism, the text should be someone's unique thought. But this is not a thought that belongs to Ateo Breaking. This is Nexta's statement shared by Ateo Breaking and steklomoy on their own initiative. Learn to separate the wheat from the chaff.

It really doesn't matter how you call it.

What you did was to simply copy/paste something without mentioning any source or using quotes.

You made this look like it were something you wrote your self, which clearly isn't the case since it was just copy/pasted from somewhere.
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December 03, 2020, 10:17:02 AM
#14
It looks like a little of an article (what I see by google translate). It's generally done by some newbies or some users who want to promote their blog here in this forum. Just add a title and post the link to the article (Though it's not a good way). But they put the reference there. You did a mistake by not putting a reference link there.

Let's see what actually the rule saying.
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33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

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December 03, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
#13
LoyceV, I think you do not quite understand what plagiarism is. First of all, plagiarism is the issuance of someone else's intellectual work under one's own name. Now answer a simple question: how could steklomoy arrogate to himself the rights of the Nexta channel by spreading the news about the award for the arrest of Lukashenka?
What you are now trying to call plagiarism is called the dissemination of information, and in connection with the recent events in Belarus - quite important information.

No, it's called plagiarism. The user didn't put any effort into attributing the text and posted it as their own. The sentence doesn't even sound like it's coming from Nexta, it is about Nexta.

No and no. In the context of plagiarism, the text should be someone's unique thought. But this is not a thought that belongs to Ateo Breaking. This is Nexta's statement shared by Ateo Breaking and steklomoy on their own initiative. Learn to separate the wheat from the chaff.

P.S. By the way, how will plagiarism advocates react to the fact that there are more than one author here?  Grin

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December 03, 2020, 09:37:28 AM
#12
LoyceV, I think you do not quite understand what plagiarism is. First of all, plagiarism is the issuance of someone else's intellectual work under one's own name. Now answer a simple question: how could steklomoy arrogate to himself the rights of the Nexta channel by spreading the news about the award for the arrest of Lukashenka?
What you are now trying to call plagiarism is called the dissemination of information, and in connection with the recent events in Belarus - quite important information.

No, it's called plagiarism. The user didn't put any effort into attributing the text and posted it as their own. The sentence doesn't even sound like it's coming from Nexta, it is about Nexta.

And you're making up the part about "intellectual" work. It could be the stupidest crap, or it could be a news headline... it doesn't matter.
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December 03, 2020, 09:24:12 AM
#11
The post does not explicitly suggest the writer was claiming ownership of the reply which is sort of common knowledge at the time. It's a news headline, and we regularly see different media houses use very similar headlines for their publications. If the op had written more which was copied without including a source, it would then be in the realm of plagiarism, imo.
But still, it would consider as plagiarism or copy paste. For such a post, OP should mention there that "I have read on Telegram (source name) or on news". Also at least OP should use Quotation mark (") on the post to avoid plagiarism. Add source link on the post also help avoid plagiarism. If this isn't plagiarism then many users will do the same. But, really this wouldn't consider as heavy plagiarism. Most likely temp ban for such a case would appropriate IMO.
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December 03, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
#10
This is not a scientific article or creative work, but news about an award for the capture of Lukashenka. Can't you see the difference?
That doesn't matter, it can still be plagiarism.

LoyceV, I think you do not quite understand what plagiarism is. First of all, plagiarism is the issuance of someone else's intellectual work under one's own name. Now answer a simple question: how could steklomoy arrogate to himself the rights of the Nexta channel by spreading the news about the award for the arrest of Lukashenka?
What you are now trying to call plagiarism is called the dissemination of information, and in connection with the recent events in Belarus - quite important information.
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December 03, 2020, 09:12:28 AM
#9
I have to agree with the OP in this case. Here is the translation of the plagiarized reply;
"The founder of HEXTA announced a $ 1 million reward for arresting Lukashenka or any other way to remove him from power."

The post does not explicitly suggest the writer was claiming ownership of the reply which is sort of common knowledge at the time. It's a news headline, and we regularly see different media houses use very similar headlines for their publications. If the op had written more which was copied without including a source, it would then be in the realm of plagiarism, imo.

The consequence being that if we don't class this as plagiarism, we then open the floodgates to dozens of accounts copy/pasting single lines of text, then citing this example as precedent as to why low effort posts are permissable.  It doesn't matter if it's common knowledge, it has been copied verbatim without accompanying independent thought or comment.  
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December 03, 2020, 07:04:41 AM
#8
This is not a scientific article or creative work, but news about an award for the capture of Lukashenka. Can't you see the difference?
That doesn't matter, it can still be plagiarism.

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Also, this announcement came from the NEXTA channel, which the steklomoy mentioned in his post.
I don't see any mention of the source in this post.
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December 03, 2020, 05:52:41 AM
#7
The best thing to do is to contact the russian mods to explain the situation to them.

Regarding account blocking, according to the rules of the forum, it is allowed to make entries only here - in the meta  Sad

Correct this is the right behavior Smiley
But you (or steklomoy with an alt) can send a PN to the responsible moderator with a request for explanation.
Or the link to your thread here so that the matter can be clarified.
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December 03, 2020, 05:46:08 AM
#6
The best thing to do is to contact the russian mods to explain the situation to them.

Regarding account blocking, according to the rules of the forum, it is allowed to make entries only here - in the meta  Sad

I have to agree with the OP in this case. Here is the translation of the plagiarized reply;
"The founder of HEXTA announced a $ 1 million reward for arresting Lukashenka or any other way to remove him from power."

The post does not explicitly suggest the writer was claiming ownership of the reply which is sort of common knowledge at the time. It's a news headline, and we regularly see different media houses use very similar headlines for their publications. If the op had written more which was copied without including a source, it would then be in the realm of plagiarism, imo.

Everything is correctly formulated!  Smiley
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December 03, 2020, 05:27:52 AM
#5
I have to agree with the OP in this case. Here is the translation of the plagiarized reply;
"The founder of HEXTA announced a $ 1 million reward for arresting Lukashenka or any other way to remove him from power."

The post does not explicitly suggest the writer was claiming ownership of the reply which is sort of common knowledge at the time. It's a news headline, and we regularly see different media houses use very similar headlines for their publications. If the op had written more which was copied without including a source, it would then be in the realm of plagiarism, imo.
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December 03, 2020, 05:27:21 AM
#4
Can't you see the difference?

Errrr no, I can't see the difference, I don't understand Russian. Don't shoot the messenger, I just report what I saw Smiley.
The best thing to do is to contact the russian mods to explain the situation to them.
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December 03, 2020, 05:16:11 AM
#3
This message has been reported in the Staff section for plagiarism :


Ocнoвaтeль HEXTA oбъявил o вoзнaгpaждeнии в 1 миллиoн дoллapoв зa apecт Лyкaшeнкo или любoй дpyгoй cпocoб eгo ycтpaнeния oт влacти.

Original:
Ocнoвaтeль HEXTA oбъявил o вoзнaгpaждeнии в 1 миллиoн дoллapoв зa apecт Лyкaшeнкo или любoй дpyгoй cпocoб eгo ycтpaнeния oт влacти.

 Grin

This is not a scientific article or creative work, but news about an award for the capture of Lukashenka. Can't you see the difference? Also, this announcement came from the NEXTA channel, which the steklomoy mentioned in his post.

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December 03, 2020, 04:41:02 AM
#2
This message has been reported in the Staff section for plagiarism :


Ocнoвaтeль HEXTA oбъявил o вoзнaгpaждeнии в 1 миллиoн дoллapoв зa apecт Лyкaшeнкo или любoй дpyгoй cпocoб eгo ycтpaнeния oт влacти.

Original:
Ocнoвaтeль HEXTA oбъявил o вoзнaгpaждeнии в 1 миллиoн дoллapoв зa apecт Лyкaшeнкo или любoй дpyгoй cпocoб eгo ycтpaнeния oт влacти.
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December 03, 2020, 04:19:14 AM
#1

Hello. Today the "steklomoy" account was blocked for alleged plagiarism. I would like to see evidence of plagiarism. And if there are none, please unblock this account. Otherwise, a feeling is created that they are blocking all the unwanted on the principle of "friend or foe", "pulling by the ears" the article of the rules for which the blocking is provided.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53622855
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/steklomoy-1790031
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