Topic: Account Got Negative Trust (Read 738 times)

Darkstar_  anyone can send you Smerits even if you don't want to receive merits from him i think.

And his account is red trusted then why i will wish to get merit from negative trusted account.

Mckane have given postive trust to all these. So all these are connected with him? Or All these are wrong.?  What you mean that you are destroying accounts of people.?

No, I left my old negative trust the day you launched the campaign. However, it was untrusted by default, and stayed like that until very recently when I was added to DT2, making my negative trust show up by default. Since then, I've reworded my negative trust on you (twice) to better state the truth, therefore their date is much newer.

Anyway, do you really expect me to believe you traded merits with the person who hacked your account?

And for 8-9 months my account was neutral trust and now they take action. ? Why? While also i was trying to collect more proofs related to issue.

Well I'm sorry if you are offended... That was not my intention. I certainly didn't resort to personal attacks nor question the parenting ability of your parents or quality of your upbringing.

I was merely pointing out that multiple accounts are NOT against the rules and that, based on the evidence we had, you appear to be trying to salvage an account so you can continue to post in signature campaigns.

It's also my opinion that the vast majority of your posts (prior to the red trust) were in those "spammy", pointless mega threads like:

• "Why did you choose Bitcoin?" - post #1406
• "are you thinking about the future?" - post #686
• "what is the worst thing you did in the crypto world?" - post #230
• "is Bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world?"- post #1675
• "Do you think billionaires invest in BTC?" - post # 2748

... Etc etc etc.

None of these posts add any real value to either the (pointless) thread they're in or the forum in general... They're also posted in relatively quick succession, minutes apart.

In my opinion, this is the definition of "shit-posting".

And, because you "don't want to give me any ans[sic]"... I still don't know why anyone would pay $22 for what was, at the time, a worthless account that could have just been abandoned and a new account started.
If in your mind i am shit poster then its ok every mind is different from another mind. I think these posts were good for another person.
But my account got red trust not because of shit posting. Its because of Signature campaign launch in 2017 from this account in which i was no relation. And for 8-9 months my account was neutral trust and now they take action. ? Why? While also i was trying to collect more proofs related to issue. With addition with that Full member  account is not just big rank with time and now with forum rules users are trying to make more quality posts from the past.
Otherwise thanks for your suggestion about explaining shit posting. We will try to learn more and more from our seniors.

I don't want to give you any ans as your words are showing your personality, level and behavior. I think your parents have not given any knowledge about how to behave with people.
Is any real human being can used these type of words for another human being.?
(Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies... )

It seems that the supposed hacker would be McKane, if the story checks out, though I think it could be that shezu007 is a bought account, given McKane's history?
http://archive.is/n6UKl#selection-6513.13-6513.47

Here is more proof that you weren't hacked, and the final nail in the coffin (imo):

On August 4 2017, shawn995 vouches for your thread design service. You call him a friend. This happened 2 days before the ANN of B8Ball, and there are zero password changes between those dates.

I'm trying to understand you and the supposed claim that your account was hacked, but the facts contradict your claims, or render significant doubt into whether you're saying the truth.

Why am I not accepting the txid? It doesn't really prove anything. You originally started that you paid $50, but that was in 2018 conversion rates. I think if we were talking Fiat, you would be remembering the amount you actually paid, since you gave your friend cash. It does not make sense that you changed the password over a week after you paid.

Chat logs would pretty much be the only thing that would convince me otherwise at this point, I think. Unless you delete your PMs, it shouldn't be too difficult unless you messaged them outside of the forum.

Here is chat logs
https://snag.gy/hev9lN.jpg
https://snag.gy/oSwpLN.jpg
https://snag.gy/N0I4vS.jpg
https://snag.gy/xG1JU4.jpg
https://snag.gy/RHQKTb.jpg


I fail to see how a 30 day ban is related to this.
I also fail to see how my account was blocked.? But when they given me account back account was blocked and surely that was the reason that they have done something wrong from here due to which moderator have given a last warning but not block or given negative trust forever.

Was re-reading some of the posts in this thread... and spotted this:
Well OP, apparently, you DON'T "know"... Users ARE allowed multiple accounts! Look at Darkstar... he has "Darkstar_" and "Darkstar_alt". What users are NOT allowed to do is use their Alts to try and cheat/scam by creating false trust, enrolling multiple Alts in campaigns, merit farm, trust farm etc...

Why on earth would someone pay $50 for such a low level account that could just be abandoned without any real sacrifice... and a new account started without any issue?

You should have simply created a new account, tagged the old one as "hacked" and provided a signed message from a staked address to backup your claim that you were the original owner and that it got hacked. Then, none of this would have been an issue.

Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies...
I don't want to give you any ans as your words are showing your personality, level and behavior. I think your parents have not given any knowledge about how to behave with people.
Is any real human being can used these type of words for another human being.?
(Now, it just looks like you're trying to save your account so you don't get kicked from sig campaigns and can continue to shitpost for pennies... )

Pharmacist Sir my account was not directly active in that month i was in touch with that account from start. And i have paid for my account as i know that in forum only one account is allowed to used.  

On April 16 2018, your friend leaves you a positive trust feedback:


(unfortunately not able to be archived; if someone else could confirm it, that would be great)

I was thinking you should offer your forum related representation services but real lawyers will represent clients that they know damn well are guilty so maybe not..

I recently helped prove someone's innocence

6:   And i have given cash to my friend and he has send BTC to them and his screen shot is here

https://snag.gy/yH68Xd.jpg

I'm trying to understand you and the supposed claim that your account was hacked, but the facts contradict your claims, or render significant doubt into whether you're saying the truth.

Why am I not accepting the txid? It doesn't really prove anything. You originally started that you paid $50, but that was in 2018 conversion rates. I think if we were talking Fiat, you would be remembering the amount you actually paid, since you gave your friend cash. It does not make sense that you changed the password over a week after you paid.

Chat logs would pretty much be the only thing that would convince me otherwise at this point, I think. Unless you delete your PMs, it shouldn't be too difficult unless you messaged them outside of the forum.

I fail to see how a 30 day ban is related to this.

So updated timeline:

June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
June 28, 2017 - You leave the forum to focus on exams
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you. In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
August 26, 2017 - Exams are over and you come back
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

I find it hard to believe that a hacker hacks your account, announces a (scam) project, starts talking about it and advertising it, and waits a week until they change the password, when they conveniently cancel the project, and start trying to sell it.
I find it hard to believe that you paid $20 to recover what would have been a Newbie account, if you deleted everything that the hacker did.

Unless someone makes a reasonable argument that leads me to believe that you really are innocent, I'm pretty set that I have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you were not hacked. Therefore, I'm not removing my negative trust. While you have provided one of what I originally asked for, the txid doesn't match your story or the timeline.

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Please stop PMing asking me to remove my feedback, unless
a) You or someone else makes a good argument at why you are innocent
b) You provide proof of your communication with the hacker

This story doesn't seem to check out. I searched through the seclog archives between June 15 to October 15th, and only found 2 entries:


The campaign post was made August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM, which is almost 24 hours before the first password change, when you supposedly got hacked. It appears that you started managing/running the social media campaign for B8Ball on August 12, 2017, 06:00:28 AM, and even worse, you posted the B8Ball ANN on August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM, over a week before you got hacked.

Basic Timeline (from what I grasp)
June 20, 2017, 06:29:11 AM - Your account is created
August 04, 2017, 03:38:25 PM - You announce a signature/logo design service, and claim that the Tiger Beer logo was created by you.[1] In the time span of 3 minutes, 3 accounts vouch for your services from accounts with a username format of
August 06, 2017, 02:28:11 PM - You announce B8Ball Pool, a shady ICO
August 13, 2017, 02:02:57 PM - You launch B8Ball Pool's signature campaign that promises payments of up to 1.1BTC for one month of the campaign
August 14, 2017, 07:39:27 AM - B8Ball Project is up for sale, because no one trusts you  
August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - Password change
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - Password change

It does not look like you got hacked, and if you need, the scam signature campaign was launched prior to getting hacked. Your post history is identical when comparing the posts after and during the period between the 2 password changes.

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Alternative Timeline:

You buy this account on October 2nd from McKane, a known account seller unaware of the history behind your purchased account.
You change the password on October 13 ()

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Either way, I'm not removing my negative trust. My apologies at the delay in response, unfortunately I was not at home earlier. I have updated my negative trust to increase it's accuracy though.

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[1] That in itself is shady, in my opinion

August 14, 2017, 05:40:20 PM - shezu007 - password changed
October 13, 2017, 05:24:52 PM - shezu007 - password changed

Either:

a) Offered a signature campaign that pays a ridiculously high rate, without any escrow and talks about needing crowdfunding to build their game. No one was paid from the campaign, as far as I know.

b) Bought account.

This user claims their account was hacked when the campaign was launched, however has not provided any form of proof, and their claims are rendered incorrect by the forums seclog; they were lying. Any of those 3 makes that individual untrustworthy in my opinion.

Still not sure enough to remove my negative trust, especially considering the discrepancies with the transaction info.
Sir if you want see my account history i can give my account password. Sir trust me i am in very tense from tomorrow. I have never think about anything wrong and trust me i have no experience in that activities.

Sir what you have said in this post i have not understand. Sir i have provide my transaction proof. now kindly remove my negative trust.