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January 15, 2015, 09:46:34 AM
I report local language as: should be in "local language" section. I usually can not tell if its spam or not.

If the post only says: "solved" I guess its kinda spammy. If the post is edited to include answers along with the questions its actually anti spam, as it makes redundant answers obsolete.
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January 15, 2015, 07:48:46 AM
Can I report posts in local language outside local board?

Edit : Found it is spam according to forum rules posted by mprep.

Edit-2 : Is posts like this considered as spam? First, a user asked question(s), then the user found the answers and edited the post telling it is solved. This posts can be made to increase the post counts and also for clearing doubts. So which type[1] is this post considered as?

[1] From the line earlier to it.

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January 15, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
Fair enough, I think it is great that the staff are willing to take these requests, I just think it would get tiring if more people sent a PM every time their accuracy dropped.

Other staff may mind and I may change mine if I'm getting them several times a day haha, but currently I don't mind answering the requests every now and again. You can always just post asking in here instead and a mod may answer you eventually. I'm not sure when the last time the collective staff accuracy was updated but maybe it is higher now, though some mods may stop reporting posts once they become one.
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January 15, 2015, 07:13:28 AM
@Grand_Voyageur I can only see reports against newbies but I can see that you have had three bad reports recently all for what you have marked as things like 'low value post /1-liners' etc. I'd suggest only reporting posts that are very poor quality and not just for merely writing a sentence or so (one liners can be relevant). Whilst the posts may not have much effort gone into them it's subjective as to what constitutes spam so bare that in mind.

In my experience its better to report spammy users directly instead of single posts that are spammy. Everyone has a spammy post from time to time. To remove them all would be to much and would leave the Speculation section pretty empty Wink

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I'm surprised the staff accuracy is so low as well, especially considering what a large percentage of reports belong to hilarious. His accuracy is a good deal higher than 88%, I wonder what brings it down so much.

I suspect that Staff reports way more than others, thus they make more mistakes. Its probably better to report something where you are not sure than to allways have your "report rating" in mind.
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January 15, 2015, 07:07:14 AM
Honestly, that's because most people don't know the rules at all.
I wanted to smack my face against the wall when I saw that topic. I have told, at least, three times in two days that moderates don't moderate stuff like that.

Haha, I feel the same way, although it is understandable people think you should be removing them. This thread really ought to be more prominent. I doubt most people have read it, many don't even know it exists.

By the while, it seems that while i can improve further I'm not the bad I tought myself since i'm above the average for my actual rank.
I'm honestly surprised to see that my report accuracy is higher than the average staff one. Currently 112 posts with 94% accuracy.

I'm surprised the staff accuracy is so low as well, especially considering what a large percentage of reports belong to hilarious. His accuracy is a good deal higher than 88%, I wonder what brings it down so much.

Honestly, I think it is a waste of time to bother moderators about why your report was marked as incorrect. There is a reason most forums don't have this accuracy feature, at least the ones I've been on in the past. Frankly, I have less bad reports than good reports I could've made but didn't out of fear they might be marked as bad. Obviously, this means moderators have to deal with less incorrect reports (I'm at 99% after 82), but overall, I think it is dangerous to the forum for people to shy away from reporting stuff because they think it might drop their accuracy. I'm pretty sure others have done the same thing, or this thread wouldn't be 9 pages long. I suppose percentage is helpful for anyone below 90% or so to let them know that they don't entirely understand the rules, but it becomes pretty redundant above that level.

I don't mind answering them but I'm obviously limited to only seeing infractions/reports on newbies. The rules on what is and isn't allowed here can be tricky and it's helpful to know where you're going wrong but after a while you'll pick up what shouldn't and should be reported.  I PMd BadBear a handful of times before I got made a mod to see where I was going wrong and it helped a lot and saves you wasting your own time reporting stuff that shouldn't be.

Fair enough, I think it is great that the staff are willing to take these requests, I just think it would get tiring if more people sent a PM every time their accuracy dropped.
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January 15, 2015, 07:06:51 AM
Nice to see this thread is still relevant. Currently my accuracy is down to 92% Undecided
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January 15, 2015, 07:00:57 AM
Honestly, I think it is a waste of time to bother moderators about why your report was marked as incorrect. There is a reason most forums don't have this accuracy feature, at least the ones I've been on in the past. Frankly, I have less bad reports than good reports I could've made but didn't out of fear they might be marked as bad. Obviously, this means moderators have to deal with less incorrect reports (I'm at 99% after 82), but overall, I think it is dangerous to the forum for people to shy away from reporting stuff because they think it might drop their accuracy. I'm pretty sure others have done the same thing, or this thread wouldn't be 9 pages long. I suppose percentage is helpful for anyone below 90% or so to let them know that they don't entirely understand the rules, but it becomes pretty redundant above that level.

I don't mind answering them but I'm obviously limited to only seeing infractions/reports on newbies. The rules on what is and isn't allowed here can be tricky and it's helpful to know where you're going wrong but after a while you'll pick up what shouldn't and should be reported.  I PMd BadBear a handful of times before I got made a mod to see where I was going wrong and it helped a lot and saves you wasting your own time reporting stuff that shouldn't be.
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January 15, 2015, 06:50:34 AM
By the while, it seems that while i can improve further I'm not the bad I tought myself since i'm above the average for my actual rank.
I'm honestly surprised to see that my report accuracy is higher than the average staff one. Currently 112 posts with 94% accuracy.

Honestly, that's because most people don't know the rules at all.
I wanted to smack my face against the wall when I saw that topic. I have told, at least, three times in two days that moderates don't moderate stuff like that.
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January 15, 2015, 06:46:14 AM
By the while, it seems that while i can improve further I'm not the bad I tought myself since i'm above the average for my actual rank.

Honestly, that's because most people don't know the rules at all.
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January 15, 2015, 06:38:33 AM
@Grand_Voyageur I can only see reports against newbies but I can see that you have had three bad reports recently all for what you have marked as things like 'low value post /1-liners' etc. I'd suggest only reporting posts that are very poor quality and not just for merely writing a sentence or so (one liners can be relevant). Whilst the posts may not have much effort gone into them it's subjective as to what constitutes spam so bare that in mind.

Thank you very much hilariousandco, I really appreaciate such a feedback since, as mprep wrote in the unofficial guide he compiled, "when deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules." So, You're really helping me understanding the rules better. By the while, it seems that while i can improve further I'm not the bad I tought myself since i'm above the average for my actual rank.
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January 15, 2015, 06:26:59 AM
Honestly, I think it is a waste of time to bother moderators about why your report was marked as incorrect. There is a reason most forums don't have this accuracy feature, at least the ones I've been on in the past. Frankly, I have less bad reports than good reports I could've made but didn't out of fear they might be marked as bad. Obviously, this means moderators have to deal with less incorrect reports (I'm at 99% after 82), but overall, I think it is dangerous to the forum for people to shy away from reporting stuff because they think it might drop their accuracy. I'm pretty sure others have done the same thing, or this thread wouldn't be 9 pages long. I suppose percentage is helpful for anyone below 90% or so to let them know that they don't entirely understand the rules, but it becomes pretty redundant above that level.
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January 15, 2015, 06:17:21 AM
@Grand_Voyageur I can only see reports against newbies but I can see that you have had three bad reports recently all for what you have marked as things like 'low value post /1-liners' etc. I'd suggest only reporting posts that are very poor quality and not just for merely writing a sentence or so (one liners can be relevant). Whilst the posts may not have much effort gone into them it's subjective as to what constitutes spam so bare that in mind.
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January 15, 2015, 05:59:27 AM
The funny thing is my accuracy has stayed at 97% for well over the last month during most of those reports and I didn't notice my score go up or down. I must've got some bad ones for my score to have not gone up a percent. It seems I've had 50 bad reports all together so far.

Is there any way to monitor which reports you have made which is "bad", I have been pretty steady on ~95%, but have lately got down to 90%, which must mean that the quality of my reports have decreased, only way I can get better is to know where my evaluations was wrong.

+1. I would really appreciate to receive a feedback from mods on why the "bad" post i reported proved to be legit, me too. I really hate wasting Staff and myself time with sending a bad report. So, I would like to understand better. Actually, I found the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ quite useful; however, so far, this moved my reports' accuracy to 75% from 69-70% ONLY.

Not really. You could ask a global moderator to check which ones were marked as bad though.

+1. I suppose adding a check-box in report module to receive some of the feedback you said can open to abuse from n00bs and add to much workload to mods; but, could be a nice addition if worked out. However, i'll definitely try following the path you pointed out since i think it may really be useful to know where our reports were bads. As an example, it could helps us to better grasp the exact meaning of each forum rule.
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January 15, 2015, 04:40:39 AM
Not really. You could ask a global moderator to check which ones were marked as bad though.
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January 15, 2015, 04:33:48 AM
The funny thing is my accuracy has stayed at 97% for well over the last month during most of those reports and I didn't notice my score go up or down. I must've got some bad ones for my score to have not gone up a percent. It seems I've had 50 bad reports all together so far.

Is there any way to monitor which reports you have made which is "bad", I have been pretty steady on ~95%, but have lately got down to 90%, which must mean that the quality of my reports have decreased, only way I can get better is to know where my evaluations was wrong.
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December 08, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Always just report the one post with an explanation to check out the rest. Reporting every single one is unnecessary and far too time consuming for both the reporter and staff to handle.
Hmmm....I am curious to know how you report so many posts. Per above you reported ~1k posts since you were promoted which was only a few months ago and works out to ~10 per day or ~300 per month

I am up to ~315 right now, still with a 91% accuracy rating, and do the same with multiple reports on one thread. Maybe it has to do with the lack of signature deals making me post less in general, which means I find less potential reports

hilarious has already spent 118 days on bitcointalk according to his profile, and he registered in 2013 November lol.
If you spend 8 hours on bitcointalk everyday as he did, you could also report 10 posts everyday easily. Cheesy
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December 08, 2014, 08:50:08 AM
I think that % is not regularly updated.

That's wrong. It's updated instantly.

If no action is taken for your report, then % will update when any action is taken. Sometimes, you will need lot of posts for updating %, mostly happens for large amount of reports. Please tell me if I am wrong. Smiley

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December 08, 2014, 07:30:16 AM
I think that % is not regularly updated.

That's wrong. It's updated instantly.
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December 08, 2014, 06:55:54 AM
Always just report the one post with an explanation to check out the rest. Reporting every single one is unnecessary and far too time consuming for both the reporter and staff to handle.
Hmmm....I am curious to know how you report so many posts. Per above you reported ~1k posts since you were promoted which was only a few months ago and works out to ~10 per day or ~300 per month

I am up to ~315 right now, still with a 91% accuracy rating, and do the same with multiple reports on one thread. Maybe it has to do with the lack of signature deals making me post less in general, which means I find less potential reports
The guy has nearly 15,000 posts in a year - it looks like it's just a matter of being online 20 hours a day.
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December 08, 2014, 05:15:33 AM
Always just report the one post with an explanation to check out the rest. Reporting every single one is unnecessary and far too time consuming for both the reporter and staff to handle.
Hmmm....I am curious to know how you report so many posts. Per above you reported ~1k posts since you were promoted which was only a few months ago and works out to ~10 per day or ~300 per month

I am up to ~315 right now, still with a 91% accuracy rating, and do the same with multiple reports on one thread. Maybe it has to do with the lack of signature deals making me post less in general, which means I find less potential reports

I'm standing at 92% for quite some time. I think that % is not regularly updated. Probably some weekly/monthly cron job updates that figure.
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