Astana woke up and is online ,and sent me many messages with plenty of F#%# words asking me to respond again. Again I'm just relaying information in this matter I have no money involved. I'll respond to shakaru because he and astana are two in disagreement over this matter. If I have time I can get some awnsers to some other queastions from other users. But I really take offense to being called a shill and sock puppet, I can assure you I'm very capable of making my own mind up about the character of people.
Now I I'll respond to shakaru. I want to get some more information. So you did accept the $1700 from you fully admit this? From what I read is that you refunded him and paypal cancled it am I right? And in effect you actually still have his money and are not going to give it back unless forced to do so by your bank or paypal? Just to make things clear you haven't sent the computer game cards as was agreed to that the money was sent to you for am I correct?
If he hasn't recieved the game cards then I think you need to refund him despite what ever has happened and end this sorry episode. I don't understand why you need to be forced by the bank or paypal to return the money. The paypal issue was ruled in your favour so if you do owe him the money he gave you you should return it..
As to the threats he is angry, also I don't think he's ever mentioned he is going to kill you. I think if you return the money he will stop what ever he is doing, he does have other things to deal with like his girlfriend. He also told me he messaged you on skype on christmay day a few times asking for both parties to end this and just return the money.
Woke up?
I thought he was in the hospital attending to the birth of his child. You might want to at least try to keep his lies straight if you are going to be the mouthpiece for the little liar.
Who cares what you say or think? You have become the willing co-conspirator of astana, and are making demands for information that you are not entitled to, concerning a transaction (or attempted crime) that you were not a party to and have no involvement in. Who the fuck do you think you are making judgements about what someone who astana tried to victimize should do?
If you want to make up your mind about the character of people... try starting with your own character. Coming here with no involvement in this issue, and trying to act high and mighty is as fake as astana's lines of bullshit. You are a shill, and every act and deed you have spoken to on this, you are either making up your own lies about this matter, or are spreading astana's to try to complete his criminal efforts.
Either way, you have outed yourself as a scammer, or willing to serve as the mouthpiece for one, and you righteous indignation is nothing more than hollow foolishness.
Astana has made death threats, that is against the law in any civilized jurisdiction in the world, probably even wherever you are. You might want to slow down and think before you come out so strongly on the side of the demons in this battle.
"He will stop whatever he is doing"
Like continuing to make threats, bothering uninvolved bystanders, and continuing to whine and tell lies? Why should anybody reward that kind of nonsense with money? Little fucker broke the rules, tried to cheat, got caught, compounded the problem by trying to scam a double dip, and now is going to be out his investment in trying to scam.
Tough shit for him, and for you. Learn the lesson not to be a fucking criminal asshole, and consider it cheap at $1,600.