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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread - page 244. (Read 479317 times)

sr. member
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I understand being paranoid about hiring, but at some point they have to hire a few people to do some of the tasks as mentioned.

I was thinking about getting an insurance bond and a criminal background check and offering some trusted services myself to help out with some of these intermediate tasks. They need a group of trustworthy people that understand bitcoin to help out.

I would think with those documents and some personal id it should be enough due diligence to consider someone trustworthy.

In real life 15 years ago I was programming a UNISYS payment processing system handling millions of dollars a day, sometimes $8-10 million
dollar single checks, and I'm not in jail...not everyone is so easily corrupted. The trouble is finding the type of people who can look at a high dollar value and see it as another number instead of running off to Mexico.

They need to figure out who they can trust and compartmentalize the responsibilities so that multiple unrelated/arms length people sign off on high dollar value items so that the possibility of theft is made as risk free as possible.



PS...(correction) looks like all the shares are transferred over this morning and trading has begun

If by some means you had been able to send a few mill to your private account it would have set alarm bells ringing, it would be traceable and reversable. That would not be the case with a btc fraud. If ken gave the keys to the share locker to someone they could sell a load, convert to btc and disappear over night. It doesn't matter how many background checks to do, if the temptation is there it can and does happen. Look at the real world banking sector to see proof of that.
hero member
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I understand being paranoid about hiring, but at some point they have to hire a few people to do some of the tasks as mentioned.

I was thinking about getting an insurance bond and a criminal background check and offering some trusted services myself to help out with some of these intermediate tasks. They need a group of trustworthy people that understand bitcoin to help out.

I would think with those documents and some personal id it should be enough due diligence to consider someone trustworthy.

In real life 15 years ago I was programming a UNISYS payment processing system handling millions of dollars a day, sometimes $8-10 million
dollar single checks, and I'm not in jail...not everyone is so easily corrupted. The trouble is finding the type of people who can look at a high dollar value and see it as another number instead of running off to Mexico.

They need to figure out who they can trust and compartmentalize the responsibilities so that multiple unrelated/arms length people sign off on high dollar value items so that the possibility of theft is made as risk free as possible.



PS...(correction) looks like all the shares are transferred over this morning and trading has begun
legendary
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Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

You have to admit that it is quite unusual to have a multi-million dollar business and not hire anyone to do the menial tasks. I mean... do you really think Friedcat does personally address every shareholders' tiny issue?

I'm 100% anti-whine but most of the problems that make shareholders wary and whiny can be addressed with a minimum amount of effort and money.

Probably several trusted members of this forum are perfectly capable of lending Ken a hand with these things.


These tenders are a short-term event with an eventual end, so yes, I do think that Ken should handle them himself for the next ~ week or so. Remember the 31st is the cutoff date, after which no more new tenders will be accepted.

And as far as Friedcat goes, he does the transfers himself (at least according to his posts). Right or wrong, that seems to be the precedent.

I'm sure that Ken is going to take advantage of having hired employees (and/or family members) to do lots of the work - there will be too much for him to do otherwise.
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Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

You have to admit that it is quite unusual to have a multi-million dollar business and not hire anyone to do the menial tasks. I mean... do you really think Friedcat does personally address every shareholders' tiny issue?

I'm 100% anti-whine but most of the problems that make shareholders wary and whiny can be addressed with a minimum amount of effort and money.

Probably several trusted members of this forum are perfectly capable of lending Ken a hand with these things.


Personally if I were Ken I wouldnt give other investors control over the companys account, where they could abscond with all the shares.
But thats just me Wink

Sure, because in every business in history the CEO did everything, all the time.  Huh

Id be happy if Ken hired a secretary or a PA
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Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

You have to admit that it is quite unusual to have a multi-million dollar business and not hire anyone to do the menial tasks. I mean... do you really think Friedcat does personally address every shareholders' tiny issue?

I'm 100% anti-whine but most of the problems that make shareholders wary and whiny can be addressed with a minimum amount of effort and money.

Probably several trusted members of this forum are perfectly capable of lending Ken a hand with these things.


Personally if I were Ken I wouldnt give other investors control over the companys account, where they could abscond with all the shares.
But thats just me Wink

Sure, because in every business in history the CEO did everything, all the time.  Huh
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

You have to admit that it is quite unusual to have a multi-million dollar business and not hire anyone to do the menial tasks. I mean... do you really think Friedcat does personally address every shareholders' tiny issue?

I'm 100% anti-whine but most of the problems that make shareholders wary and whiny can be addressed with a minimum amount of effort and money.

Probably several trusted members of this forum are perfectly capable of lending Ken a hand with these things.


Personally if I were Ken I wouldnt give other investors control over the companys account, where they could abscond with all the shares.
But thats just me Wink
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Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

You will get the dividends and the transfer one he is back.
member
Activity: 61
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Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

You have to admit that it is quite unusual to have a multi-million dollar business and not hire anyone to do the menial tasks. I mean... do you really think Friedcat does personally address every shareholders' tiny issue?

I'm 100% anti-whine but most of the problems that make shareholders wary and whiny can be addressed with a minimum amount of effort and money.

Probably several trusted members of this forum are perfectly capable of lending Ken a hand with these things.
full member
Activity: 208
Merit: 100
Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things

I did, he assured me they'd be transferred before dividends were paid this week.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.

Definitely send an email or PM, he has been pretty busy this week from the look of things
full member
Activity: 208
Merit: 100
Nearly a week gone and I'm still waiting for Ken to do the BTCT to Bitfunder transfer I requested, meaning I've now missed out on getting dividends for the majority of my shares.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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Everything is great with eAsic, still working with Tradehill to get setup.  Sorry, to be so short with the response to VE.  Had to get the dividends out today.  

You have no idea how much better this made me feel.  The previous PM to VE had me a little freaked out tbh.

Going to bed, nobody do anything crazy while I'm asleep.

You sound over-invested. Only hold what you can afford to loose, there are no guarantees in the btc world.

+1000

Sometimes I think there should be a 1-800 Freakout Hotline for cases like these. It's way too common.

If you're losing even one hour of sleep over an investment, you're too exposed.

lol 1800-HELP ME!
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Thank you for the responses. I've got the dividends and now I see it in the "my assets" page. it is still missing from the "my value analysis" page. guess I need to live without that.. Smiley

ta muchly

Theres a solution to that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2806020

Smiley
member
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Everything is great with eAsic, still working with Tradehill to get setup.  Sorry, to be so short with the response to VE.  Had to get the dividends out today.  

You have no idea how much better this made me feel.  The previous PM to VE had me a little freaked out tbh.

Going to bed, nobody do anything crazy while I'm asleep.

You sound over-invested. Only hold what you can afford to loose, there are no guarantees in the btc world.

+1000

Sometimes I think there should be a 1-800 Freakout Hotline for cases like these. It's way too common.

If you're losing even one hour of sleep over an investment, you're too exposed.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 1013
Thank you for the responses. I've got the dividends and now I see it in the "my assets" page. it is still missing from the "my value analysis" page. guess I need to live without that.. Smiley

ta muchly
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Everything is great with eAsic, still working with Tradehill to get setup.  Sorry, to be so short with the response to VE.  Had to get the dividends out today.  

You have no idea how much better this made me feel.  The previous PM to VE had me a little freaked out tbh.

Going to bed, nobody do anything crazy while I'm asleep.

You sound over-invested. Only hold what you can afford to loose, there are no guarantees in the btc world.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
ActiveMining, AMC Dividends paid [.00000517]

Ken, I have 5000 AMC transferred on Bitfunder last 2 days ago.
When is this going to be credited in my AM?
What about the dividend for this?
Date transferred 2013-07-23 20:32:11
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@ burnside

Discovered a bug with the value analysis feature. After buying some new shares with my received dividends, my value analysis now says that i bought all my shares for the tiny dividend amount and thus my profit is almost the same as the market value.

Burnside posted before saying you can transfer the shares to yourself and set what the value of them is
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@ burnside

Discovered a bug with the value analysis feature. After buying some new shares with my received dividends, my value analysis now says that i bought all my shares for the tiny dividend amount and thus my profit is almost the same as the market value.
member
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Merit: 10
Everything is great with eAsic, still working with Tradehill to get setup.  Sorry, to be so short with the response to VE.  Had to get the dividends out today. 

Great stuff, can't wait for the details!
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