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Hey wait a minute Mr Postman-

go have a look at the vid BFL had on their website recently. They had an identically laid out six assembly work benches, staffed by four people who would be sacked in my workplace if they worked that slowly.

The number of benches is fine, with pre-prepped cases and quick workers you can knock out plenty of rigs in quick time. We don't have masses of pre-orders, once they are done and dusted the farm machines will begin to roll out.

Edit- what are you benching? I have a bigger kitchen than the cafe round the corner but it doesn't make me a hot food outlet.

Edit 2 - hey VE are you going to open a mining rig production line in your basement? If so what's your IPO offer? Count me in OK?

Good news everyone, we're even worse than BFL! We're going to be rich!

Are people here delusional or just stupid? The fact that Ken can't show pictures of chips quite obviously means he does not have chips to take pictures of. Not even sample chips which were supposed to arrive in November according to Ken's schedule.




Having problem reading the post?
He even said they are waiting for chips and boards, so no, chips has not arrived, therefore no pics of chips.

When will the chips arrive?
Well, Ken said it would take 9 weeks for sample chips after paying the NRE costs. They should have arrived n November, but Ken said he had to redesign them. It would be logical to assume that it will take another 9 weeks for new samples, so they should arrive in late January/early February. If that's the case, then mass production won't be happening till around April/May.

Before more misinformation is spread, Masbark has no idea how the Backend Design/Mask/Fab Time process works as per his comment above.

A total redesign never needed to happen and I'm not sure where he read this or got this information.

In the event a minor redesign needed to happen (most of the backend design is done and considering eASIC is a 1 Mask Layer process, it wouldn't take very long at all and they would likely skip the sample chips)
 
Secondly if it were just sample chips and they were coming in "April/May" (lol) then why would he be prepping now by saying "We are working on assembling everything, so when our boards and chips arrive, we can ship the miners fast."

Do you think that sample chips would be enough to ship even a remote amount of product to customers?

The more likely scenario is the redesign process, mask process at Fab is and has been done already and they are making the chips as we speak. We should probably see the first Chips coming in Mid to Late January. As I'll be visiting in Mid January I'm hoping for that date as I will be taking Pictures and possibly Video as long as Ken lets me.

It seems we have traded Crumbs out for Masbark which is unfortunate as at least Crumbs sometimes made valid points :/
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Hey wait a minute Mr Postman-

go have a look at the vid BFL had on their website recently. They had an identically laid out six assembly work benches, staffed by four people who would be sacked in my workplace if they worked that slowly.

The number of benches is fine, with pre-prepped cases and quick workers you can knock out plenty of rigs in quick time. We don't have masses of pre-orders, once they are done and dusted the farm machines will begin to roll out.

Edit- what are you benching? I have a bigger kitchen than the cafe round the corner but it doesn't make me a hot food outlet.

Edit 2 - hey VE are you going to open a mining rig production line in your basement? If so what's your IPO offer? Count me in OK?

Good news everyone, we're even worse than BFL! We're going to be rich!

Are people here delusional or just stupid? The fact that Ken can't show pictures of chips quite obviously means he does not have chips to take pictures of. Not even sample chips which were supposed to arrive in November according to Ken's schedule.




Having problem reading the post?
He even said they are waiting for chips and boards, so no, chips has not arrived, therefore no pics of chips.

When will the chips arrive?

Well, Ken said it would take 9 weeks for sample chips after paying the NRE costs. They should have arrived n November, but Ken said he had to redesign them. It would be logical to assume that it will take another 9 weeks for new samples, so they should arrive in late January/early February. If that's the case, then mass production won't be happening till around April/May.

With only 2 benches in Ken's "assembly line", anyone ordering hardware from ActM can expect to get their hardware in two weeks, just like all the satisfied BFL customers.
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Hey wait a minute Mr Postman-

go have a look at the vid BFL had on their website recently. They had an identically laid out six assembly work benches, staffed by four people who would be sacked in my workplace if they worked that slowly.

The number of benches is fine, with pre-prepped cases and quick workers you can knock out plenty of rigs in quick time. We don't have masses of pre-orders, once they are done and dusted the farm machines will begin to roll out.

Edit- what are you benching? I have a bigger kitchen than the cafe round the corner but it doesn't make me a hot food outlet.

Edit 2 - hey VE are you going to open a mining rig production line in your basement? If so what's your IPO offer? Count me in OK?

Good news everyone, we're even worse than BFL! We're going to be rich!

Are people here delusional or just stupid? The fact that Ken can't show pictures of chips quite obviously means he does not have chips to take pictures of. Not even sample chips which were supposed to arrive in November according to Ken's schedule.




Having problem reading the post?
He even said they are waiting for chips and boards, so no, chips has not arrived, therefore no pics of chips.

When will the chips arrive?
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Hey wait a minute Mr Postman-

go have a look at the vid BFL had on their website recently. They had an identically laid out six assembly work benches, staffed by four people who would be sacked in my workplace if they worked that slowly.

The number of benches is fine, with pre-prepped cases and quick workers you can knock out plenty of rigs in quick time. We don't have masses of pre-orders, once they are done and dusted the farm machines will begin to roll out.

Edit- what are you benching? I have a bigger kitchen than the cafe round the corner but it doesn't make me a hot food outlet.

Edit 2 - hey VE are you going to open a mining rig production line in your basement? If so what's your IPO offer? Count me in OK?

Good news everyone, we're even worse than BFL! We're going to be rich!

Are people here delusional or just stupid? The fact that Ken can't show pictures of chips quite obviously means he does not have chips to take pictures of. Not even sample chips which were supposed to arrive in November according to Ken's schedule.




Having problem reading the post?
He even said they are waiting for chips and boards, so no, chips has not arrived, therefore no pics of chips.
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Eskimo - first off Happy Christmas.

Second, all your questions are valid but you should think about framing them in another way - as they look like a set of demands. An introductory 'Hi are you able to answer these question' etc. goes a long way. If I was reading your post and it was aimed at me I would ignore it as the tone of it is uncivil - I'm sure you would do exactly the same. All the best.



The only reason to ignore a shareholder demanding answers is because you know those answers will make you and the company look bad. If a truthful answer would make the company look bad, then it is bad.
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Hey wait a minute Mr Postman-

go have a look at the vid BFL had on their website recently. They had an identically laid out six assembly work benches, staffed by four people who would be sacked in my workplace if they worked that slowly.

The number of benches is fine, with pre-prepped cases and quick workers you can knock out plenty of rigs in quick time. We don't have masses of pre-orders, once they are done and dusted the farm machines will begin to roll out.

Edit- what are you benching? I have a bigger kitchen than the cafe round the corner but it doesn't make me a hot food outlet.

Edit 2 - hey VE are you going to open a mining rig production line in your basement? If so what's your IPO offer? Count me in OK?

Good news everyone, we're even worse than BFL! We're going to be rich!

Are people here delusional or just stupid? The fact that Ken can't show pictures of chips quite obviously means he does not have chips to take pictures of. Not even sample chips which were supposed to arrive in November according to Ken's schedule.


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Eskimo - first off Happy Christmas.

Second, all your questions are valid but you should think about framing them in another way - as they look like a set of demands. An introductory 'Hi are you able to answer these question' etc. goes a long way. If I was reading your post and it was aimed at me I would ignore it as the tone of it is uncivil - I'm sure you would do exactly the same. All the best.

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Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank
1) How much did you we pay for the tables?
2) What kind of training or previous experience workers have
3) How much are they paid (monthly, weekly) and have they signed the contacts (are hired)
4) Haw many rigs must be built as of today (total paid orders) and what is the estimated date and work hours for completing those rigs. 

Oh, and we are still waiting for the PL and balance sheet for previous month.
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Weekly Update 12/25/13

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Here is a picture of our manufacturing line for assembling miners.


Assembly Line


We are working on assembling everything, so when our boards and chips arrive, we can ship the miners fast.


Just two more week until chips arrive right?

People still believe this will end up well. Why?
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Thank for the update Ken, Merry Christmas.
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Thank you Ken for your work!
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Thank you ever so much Ken

Especially as you took the effort to post this on Christmas Day too.

I'm very excited for what the New Year will bring for ActiveMining!


- On a side note this is the first time I've been able to read this thread without having to wade through so much unnecessary rubbish, I really hope we can keep it up.
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Weekly Update 12/25/13

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Here is a picture of our manufacturing line for assembling miners.


Assembly Line


We are working on assembling everything, so when our boards and chips arrive, we can ship the miners fast.



Lets take a moment to thank Ken for taking the time to post this ON CHRISTMAS!
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beautiful ken!
one little pic does so much towards boosting my confidence
now get us trading on CT so we can take advantage of this boost! (and the more to come I will assume)
thanks mate and merry merry

and kudos for banning the trolls and FUDsters
I'm shakey enough without those clowns putting bugs in my ear!

Not to be a wet blanket, but you were shown a picture of empty cases (which were already in the summer photos) and 3 empty workbenches (at least one of them was in the summer photos), and you think the trolls are your enemies?  Dude, my basement workshop has more bench space and ... actual gear and tools and stuff.  To call that an assembly line without cracking up takes balls.

Really? Two work stations per bench means they can drop cards in from 6 different areas, fire 'em up for a spot check and then send them down to burn-in with pretty good efficiency. You have to understand that VMC is getting the last string of orders. Once all the other queues for the top-end miners are full that's when VMC gets its customers. It will not be an industry leader with its current tech, but it will be an industry player. This assembly area should be more than adequate to get the volume in queue built, tested, and out the door in a short time frame.

The picture isn't ground-breaking, you are correct. It does show development and prep for the high volume of chips/boards. That's the net worth of this shot.

I'm sorry, but other than two extra workbenches and two fans, there's nothing in the picture that you haven't already seen.  The cases still have drive racks/trays in them.  There are no tools or signs of other equipment anywhere.  Well, sorry, there's the shop cart.
"Not groundbreaking" is a pretty polite way of putting it.  And I'm not joking or exaggerating when I say I have more bench space in my basement workshop.

hmmmm a troll post from an account opened two days ago . . . . I wonder who this could be. You have been reported to the mods - Goodbye
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Merry Christmas Ken and thanks for the update.
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Weekly Update 12/25/13

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Here is a picture of our manufacturing line for assembling miners.


Assembly Line


We are working on assembling everything, so when our boards and chips arrive, we can ship the miners fast.


Perfect, thank you.

Happy Christmas!
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Another photo of the case boxes I found in l33t h4x0r mode :p

http://axs.net/VMC/photo1.jpg
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Weekly Update 12/25/13

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Here is a picture of our manufacturing line for assembling miners.


Assembly Line


We are working on assembling everything, so when our boards and chips arrive, we can ship the miners fast.


Thanks for the update Ken. Great work, I know you've been doing a lot. Merry Christmas!
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beautiful ken!
one little pic does so much towards boosting my confidence
now get us trading on CT so we can take advantage of this boost! (and the more to come I will assume)
thanks mate and merry merry

and kudos for banning the trolls and FUDsters
I'm shakey enough without those clowns putting bugs in my ear!

Not to be a wet blanket, but you were shown a picture of empty cases (which were already in the summer photos) and 3 empty workbenches (at least one of them was in the summer photos), and you think the trolls are your enemies?  Dude, my basement workshop has more bench space and ... actual gear and tools and stuff.  To call that an assembly line without cracking up takes balls.

Really? Two work stations per bench means they can drop cards in from 6 different areas, fire 'em up for a spot check and then send them down to burn-in with pretty good efficiency. You have to understand that VMC is getting the last string of orders. Once all the other queues for the top-end miners are full that's when VMC gets its customers. It will not be an industry leader with its current tech, but it will be an industry player. This assembly area should be more than adequate to get the volume in queue built, tested, and out the door in a short time frame.

The picture isn't ground-breaking, you are correct. It does show development and prep for the high volume of chips/boards. That's the net worth of this shot.

I'm sorry, but other than two extra workbenches and two fans, there's nothing in the picture that you haven't already seen.  The cases still have drive racks/trays in them.  There are no tools or signs of other equipment anywhere.  Well, sorry, there's the shop cart.
"Not groundbreaking" is a pretty polite way of putting it.  And I'm not joking or exaggerating when I say I have more bench space in my basement workshop.

Your basement is entirely irrelevant to my point. The bench space is for creating miners. Whether you see tools or not is irrelevant. Ask CandianGuy, Ken has the tools. Wink Ken is prepared for six different cases to be assembled at the same time, if you can only fit two individuals at each station. That's it. There is no negative spin to put on this. This is a space for creating miners. Miners make us money.

This is good.
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It's a line of six work benches that will produce finished rigs - therefore it IS a production line. A modest one, but if it's enough for BFL with smaller but more numbers of machines it's more than enough for VMC.
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