Okay, I'll give you two.
Ken showed how adaptable he is when he worked with the shareholders to restructure from AMC after the initial IPO.
He also displayed this trait quite convincingly during the period that we knew the exchanges were in trouble when he was being proactive in finding solutions.
You can't argue this point because if you look at the recent update you'll notice that adaptability is Ken 100%. Going back to r&d shows exactly how adaptable he is. We might all look back on this and realise that it's adaptability that was key in making ActM's success.
I will pm my public address after you have publicly agreed to send the 1btc.
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December 02, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
December 02, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
someone who has proven, on more than one occasion, that he is able to willing to adapt to the ever changing Bitcoin landscape.
LOL!!! Please give me some examples... I am dying to hear this!!!
Please, zumzero.. answer this question. If you can successfully answer this, I will send you 1BTC right now.
December 02, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
Hey VE,
when are you planning to go meet Ken? Or was that bullshit?
Someone else was planning to do a trip on here - other than that has anyone actually tried calling Ken to get some answers?
when are you planning to go meet Ken? Or was that bullshit?
Someone else was planning to do a trip on here - other than that has anyone actually tried calling Ken to get some answers?
December 02, 2013, 07:00:16 PM
So who else remembered what real life was like for a few days there with no bitcointalk to sit infront of all day?
this is my bitcointalk reality -
haven't missed a thing, apparently.
Only that your stock tanked & you're dead broke, otherwise no.
December 02, 2013, 06:59:12 PM
The focus on hardware sales is stupid..
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
Good point. The machines have become more desirable and more people want in.
Perhaps not so stupid after all.
Not so stupid if the price went up x10. It did not. If i thought for a second that you're being sincere, i'd make my millions by putting you in a sideshow as "World's Dumbest Man."
December 02, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
You have a distorted view of Ken and that's something I think we can all agree on. So what's the point in my responding?
Get over your obsession with Ken, drop the agenda and perhaps we can talk like adults.
Good point. The machines have become more desirable and more people want in.
Perhaps not so stupid after all.
Get over your obsession with Ken, drop the agenda and perhaps we can talk like adults.
The focus on hardware sales is stupid..
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
Good point. The machines have become more desirable and more people want in.
Perhaps not so stupid after all.
December 02, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
someone who has proven, on more than one occasion, that he is able to willing to adapt to the ever changing Bitcoin landscape.
LOL!!! Please give me some examples... I am dying to hear this!!!
December 02, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
I have an easygoing willingness to accept the fact that my investment is in the hands of someone who has proven, on more than one occasion, that he is able and willing to adapt to the ever changing Bitcoin landscape.
If building machines to sell is more profitable then that's what we do. Simple. I don't care if Ken turns the bat cave into a crèche, if it brings in the bitcoin, I'm all for it.
If building machines to sell is more profitable then that's what we do. Simple. I don't care if Ken turns the bat cave into a crèche, if it brings in the bitcoin, I'm all for it.
December 02, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
The focus on hardware sales is stupid..
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
Zumzeros easygoing willingness to accept that all of Kens effort is in hardware sales instead of challenging this further confirms my suspicion that he is closer acquainted with Ken Slaughter has he would have us believe.
you have created a machine that essentially prints $10 dollar bills
and now that bitcoin as has gone up, you are building a machine that prints $100 dollar bills instead
Zumzeros easygoing willingness to accept that all of Kens effort is in hardware sales instead of challenging this further confirms my suspicion that he is closer acquainted with Ken Slaughter has he would have us believe.
December 02, 2013, 06:21:44 PM
Keep your hair on.
I'd say that Ken has chosen to focus on hardware sales over mining so bear that in mind when people demand answers. The question may not have as much significance as it once did.
Yeah, hardware sales is our future and it's makes no difference at all if we know dates or not. The business will not be affected by us knowing the answer to these questions. It will succeed or fail with or without us and people would do well to remember we are merely passengers.
The only valid question at this point is, 'when are we going to be able to trade?'
I'd say that Ken has chosen to focus on hardware sales over mining so bear that in mind when people demand answers. The question may not have as much significance as it once did.
Yeah, hardware sales is our future and it's makes no difference at all if we know dates or not. The business will not be affected by us knowing the answer to these questions. It will succeed or fail with or without us and people would do well to remember we are merely passengers.
The only valid question at this point is, 'when are we going to be able to trade?'
December 02, 2013, 06:09:32 PM
This whole 'Anti-troll movement' is getting out of hand. It has been pointed out before that if you have such a big problem with trolls, crumbs, or his cats, then just ignore them!
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
Guaranteed every time the Trolls get so out of hand that Ken has to spend his valuable time deleting them and I or someone else confronts them we get this type of whining. Whining and winging about how much thread space is wasted confronting the trolls. Well how much clutter has your 'holier than thou' winging post and every other of your winging posts created? When was the last time you tried to help investors out on here or do you just sit quietly waiting for an opportunity to criticise people who are trying to make this thread work, warn investors and stop the Trolls gaining people's confidence?
HOW IN THE FUCK do you expect us to "help investors out on here"? we ask questions directly to Ken and he says nothing. you want me to make him answer? you want me to make the chips appear? you want me to make all these exchanges not shut down? etc etc etc. the "trolls" arent the ones out of hand. it is the ones who name call, talk of champagne, cheer on the failure of other companies while having nothing to cheer for with this one. continually asking for information that AS INVESTORS WE SHOULD BE GETTING does not equate trolling. publicly lamenting the lack of communication does not equate trolling.
December 02, 2013, 05:59:42 PM
Why do you guys continue to Ken to ask questions as if he's going to answer? He hasn't answered a single question in this thread since IPO times.
December 02, 2013, 05:29:57 PM
When are these shares going to be ready on CT to trade
Give us a clue Ken. Are we talking days or weeks?
December 02, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
When are these shares going to be ready on CT to trade
December 02, 2013, 04:43:54 PM
Ken,
I am curious why did you choose crypto-trade? Why them?
Any why are they the best exchange for your shareholders?
Must have been a reason in your mind why they were a better choice for your shareholders, over say, havelock etc?
Just curious
I am curious why did you choose crypto-trade? Why them?
Any why are they the best exchange for your shareholders?
Must have been a reason in your mind why they were a better choice for your shareholders, over say, havelock etc?
Just curious
Answer?
Manners cost nothing. I would completely ignore this question if it were aimed at me and you gave it that downright rude spin.
My question was rude?
It is straight to the point, but how is it rude?
December 02, 2013, 04:31:46 PM
Ok now that everyone has given their two cents. Ken can we hear an update about how much of a delay the chips will be. When do you expect us to be mining? This should be a very simple question with a very simple answer. Just answer the question so people can shut thee fuck up.
These questions will not be going away. The more you dodge them the more you look like Labcoin to everyone here. You are doing the same thing to us that Ukyo is doing to you.
These questions will not be going away. The more you dodge them the more you look like Labcoin to everyone here. You are doing the same thing to us that Ukyo is doing to you.
Well said,
Ken's major announcement was just adding more track to the rollercoaster.
Enjoy the ride some more!
December 02, 2013, 04:25:57 PM
Ok now that everyone has given their two cents. Ken can we hear an update about how much of a delay the chips will be. When do you expect us to be mining? This should be a very simple question with a very simple answer. Just answer the question so people can shut thee fuck up.
These questions will not be going away. The more you dodge them the more you look like Labcoin to everyone here. You are doing the same thing to us that Ukyo is doing to you.
These questions will not be going away. The more you dodge them the more you look like Labcoin to everyone here. You are doing the same thing to us that Ukyo is doing to you.
December 02, 2013, 04:13:07 PM
I'm a small investor, and even as one would not enter into a pre-order with this (or any) company. I did the pre-order thing once with BFL and that was enough for me. since then I have ordered ASICMiner and Avalon products. My last (2) 100gh/s Avalon miners were resold for $6k/each on ebay, so I'm doing very well thank you very much.
as for the anti-troll campaign, i think it should really be an anti-anti-troll campaign. there are no trade-able shares (outside of the 8000+ on cryptostocks) so no price to manipulate, so those that preach share price manipulation GIVE IT A REST! if you are not skeptical about a company who has no track record (ESPECIALLY if you have invested in them), then there really is something wrong with your head. say what you will about ASICMiner, Avalon, KnC, Bitfury, etc but those guys have a track record and a product AND communication. pretty sure that is what you should be looking for in a company. if Ken wants to remain silent then that's his prerogative. but dont fool yourself into thinking it's because he has any big WOW product/information/etc coming. if for some reason he actually does, then great. no skin off my back and yall potentially "make" lots of money.
as for the anti-troll campaign, i think it should really be an anti-anti-troll campaign. there are no trade-able shares (outside of the 8000+ on cryptostocks) so no price to manipulate, so those that preach share price manipulation GIVE IT A REST! if you are not skeptical about a company who has no track record (ESPECIALLY if you have invested in them), then there really is something wrong with your head. say what you will about ASICMiner, Avalon, KnC, Bitfury, etc but those guys have a track record and a product AND communication. pretty sure that is what you should be looking for in a company. if Ken wants to remain silent then that's his prerogative. but dont fool yourself into thinking it's because he has any big WOW product/information/etc coming. if for some reason he actually does, then great. no skin off my back and yall potentially "make" lots of money.
December 02, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
This whole 'Anti-troll movement' is getting out of hand. It has been pointed out before that if you have such a big problem with trolls, crumbs, or his cats, then just ignore them!
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
I'm an investor and maybe even thinking about being a future customer. Problem is I can't find out what has shipped, how its performing and when I might get it if I order. I'm and INVESTOR and can't find out this info. I cant imagine what it must be like to a potential customer browsing for their next mining rig.
December 02, 2013, 03:36:46 PM
This whole 'Anti-troll movement' is getting out of hand. It has been pointed out before that if you have such a big problem with trolls, crumbs, or his cats, then just ignore them!
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
"Cheerleading" can be used to manipulate the price for profit just as much as using "FUD" can be to short stocks.
The ONLY detriment I can see that can come from trolling on this thread is potential loss of future customers. That being said, I've also heard the argument that we should be focusing primarily on our mining farm to begin with.
All the clutter on this thread isn't necessarily because of the trolls themselves. Rather, it is because there are lots of people who genuinely like to argue with trolls.
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