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FYI - in addition to the 7 questions I posted before, I asked Ken about the 10.488 TH miner he announced and this is the reply:


One more:

8. you said most recently that the 7-unit (7x 4U units) miner was going to be 10.488TH.  then you released that the boards for the 55nm chips will only hold 24 chips, which would mean 45.6GH per board, so it would need to have 33 boards per 4U box.  is that 10.488TH still the official figure?

The 10.488 TH/s System is 230 cards in 2 42U racks.  1 Base unit with 5 cards and 15 expansion cases daisy chained together.

Are those specs good or bad?

45gh per card seems pretty low density....

So, more than likely the "budget" option that we might see purchased (if we are selling these... I'm still not sure if we're just building the ActM operation with these chips.) will be having an affordable ($1K-$2K) base unit with expansion. This would provide 20 cards of hashing power or 912gh/s before any performance increases. My guess is that we will be able to clock these chips up a bit from 1.9gh/s with good stability and will be able to push this budget option up to and maybe slightly over 1TH/s.

But, yes, I agree. 2 42U racks for a little over 10TH/s seems a bit much. Imagine setting up a 1PH mine with those - you'd need 96 42U racks! Of course, that isn't what the 55nm offering is aimed at.

Good thing we have those 28nm FCICs on deck for bigger operations.

Try 200 racks.  And about 3 MW of power and cooling.
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But, yes, I agree. 2 42U racks for a little over 10TH/s seems a bit much. Imagine setting up a 1PH mine with those - you'd need 96 42U racks! Of course, that isn't what the 55nm offering is aimed at.

I'm not sure 96 42U racks would be as big a solution as you might think.



Each 42U rack is about the size of an upright fridge. Above you can see what 42 of these units would look like in a room about the size of half of a tennis court. These units can be packed much closer together than this too but that would depend on the cooling solutions we deploy. I'm guessing these chips will run cooler than our 28's so possibly the units could be packed closer than seen here.

EDIT - Ken has said we will have 60 of these 42U racks operating by end April. So about half as much again as what we see above.
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Any specs yet for 28nm? I am hoping for 100GH/s at least, otherwise I'll never make a million from this.

the gh/chip is very much beside the point - you pay per wafer, not per chip (except for packaging)
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Any specs yet for 28nm? I am hoping for 100GH/s at least, otherwise I'll never make a million from this.
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FYI - in addition to the 7 questions I posted before, I asked Ken about the 10.488 TH miner he announced and this is the reply:


One more:

8. you said most recently that the 7-unit (7x 4U units) miner was going to be 10.488TH.  then you released that the boards for the 55nm chips will only hold 24 chips, which would mean 45.6GH per board, so it would need to have 33 boards per 4U box.  is that 10.488TH still the official figure?

The 10.488 TH/s System is 230 cards in 2 42U racks.  1 Base unit with 5 cards and 15 expansion cases daisy chained together.

Are those specs good or bad?

45gh per card seems pretty low density....

So, more than likely the "budget" option that we might see purchased (if we are selling these... I'm still not sure if we're just building the ActM operation with these chips.) will be having an affordable ($1K-$2K) base unit with expansion. This would provide 20 cards of hashing power or 912gh/s before any performance increases. My guess is that we will be able to clock these chips up a bit from 1.9gh/s with good stability and will be able to push this budget option up to and maybe slightly over 1TH/s.

But, yes, I agree. 2 42U racks for a little over 10TH/s seems a bit much. Imagine setting up a 1PH mine with those - you'd need 96 42U racks! Of course, that isn't what the 55nm offering is aimed at.

Good thing we have those 28nm FCICs on deck for bigger operations.
sr. member
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FYI - in addition to the 7 questions I posted before, I asked Ken about the 10.488 TH miner he announced and this is the reply:


One more:

8. you said most recently that the 7-unit (7x 4U units) miner was going to be 10.488TH.  then you released that the boards for the 55nm chips will only hold 24 chips, which would mean 45.6GH per board, so it would need to have 33 boards per 4U box.  is that 10.488TH still the official figure?

The 10.488 TH/s System is 230 cards in 2 42U racks.  1 Base unit with 5 cards and 15 expansion cases daisy chained together.

Are those specs good or bad?

45gh per card seems pretty low density....
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HOW LOW WILL IT GO???

LEMME OUT OF THIS CAGE KEN!!!

Jimmyjazz: I have a few buy orders in for extremly low prices incase someone just hits sell at all costs.



heh jimmy - you really want those super cheap shares don't you. I know a lot of guys waiting for mainstream trading hoping to pick up supercheap shares - I don't think we will actually see it go low.

I was taking the piss fancy pants.

I generally do wear quite fancy pants - with lace and everything :p
legendary
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FYI - in addition to the 7 questions I posted before, I asked Ken about the 10.488 TH miner he announced and this is the reply:


One more:

8. you said most recently that the 7-unit (7x 4U units) miner was going to be 10.488TH.  then you released that the boards for the 55nm chips will only hold 24 chips, which would mean 45.6GH per board, so it would need to have 33 boards per 4U box.  is that 10.488TH still the official figure?

The 10.488 TH/s System is 230 cards in 2 42U racks.  1 Base unit with 5 cards and 15 expansion cases daisy chained together.

Are those specs good or bad?
hero member
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FYI - in addition to the 7 questions I posted before, I asked Ken about the 10.488 TH miner he announced and this is the reply:


One more:

8. you said most recently that the 7-unit (7x 4U units) miner was going to be 10.488TH.  then you released that the boards for the 55nm chips will only hold 24 chips, which would mean 45.6GH per board, so it would need to have 33 boards per 4U box.  is that 10.488TH still the official figure?

The 10.488 TH/s System is 230 cards in 2 42U racks.  1 Base unit with 5 cards and 15 expansion cases daisy chained together.
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HOW LOW WILL IT GO???

LEMME OUT OF THIS CAGE KEN!!!

Jimmyjazz: I have a few buy orders in for extremly low prices incase someone just hits sell at all costs.



heh jimmy - you really want those super cheap shares don't you. I know a lot of guys waiting for mainstream trading hoping to pick up supercheap shares - I don't think we will actually see it go low.

I was taking the piss fancy pants.
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There is clearly some reasonably good support at .005, if those who want out are sensible price won't go much if any below that amount.
sr. member
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HOW LOW WILL IT GO???

LEMME OUT OF THIS CAGE KEN!!!

Jimmyjazz: I have a few buy orders in for extremly low prices incase someone just hits sell at all costs.



heh jimmy - you really want those super cheap shares don't you. I know a lot of guys waiting for mainstream trading hoping to pick up supercheap shares - I don't think we will actually see it go low.
full member
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HOW LOW WILL IT GO???

LEMME OUT OF THIS CAGE KEN!!!
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When can we trade? I wanna put up another 0.0005 wall!

I'm trading already ;-)
newbie
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When can we trade? I wanna put up another 0.0005 wall!

Me too. I am using IntelliTrade (tm)
legendary
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When can we trade? I wanna put up another 0.0005 wall!
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Can we all pull our panties up now?

You're in the wrong neighborhood bro, you want iFap2Crossdressers.com.   This is the thread for people who liked getting robbed.
Different fetish.
sr. member
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I can't help but feel that a little bit of this Ukyo/Actm Share business is spiteful on Ken's part. The alternative is Ken really needs that 100btc. For what? dunno. I am happy to see that wall go away, it seems to have sparked some trading movement too, neat. Should let the less-confident get out while they still want to.

That was my conclusion, that Ken really needs this 100 bitcoin.

You guys are idiots.... that said, $85k means about 50 wafers = 340,000 chips or 170,000 packaged chips = 323TH/s - yes the company needs the cash, because the company needs to buy as much hashing power as quickly as possible.

Yes the company needs that 100 bitcoin.

Can we all pull our panties up now?



Actually I don't think you are idiots, I think since the BTC price increase you've just got too much skin in the game and that's causing you to think more emotionally.
sr. member
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I can't help but feel that a little bit of this Ukyo/Actm Share business is spiteful on Ken's part. The alternative is Ken really needs that 100btc. For what? dunno. I am happy to see that wall go away, it seems to have sparked some trading movement too, neat. Should let the less-confident get out while they still want to.

That was my conclusion, that Ken really needs this 100 bitcoin.

You guys are idiots.... that said, $85k means about 50 wafers = 340,000 chips or 170,000 packaged chips = 323TH/s - yes the company needs the cash, because the company needs to buy as much hashing power as quickly as possible.

Yes the company needs that 100 bitcoin.

Can we all pull our panties up now?

legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
I can't help but feel that a little bit of this Ukyo/Actm Share business is spiteful on Ken's part. The alternative is Ken really needs that 100btc. For what? dunno. I am happy to see that wall go away, it seems to have sparked some trading movement too, neat. Should let the less-confident get out while they still want to.

That was my conclusion, that Ken really needs this 100 bitcoin.
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