No one knows about the order for sure. Pure conjecture.
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Lol price on BF right now is 0.0015. Up 3x in last few days.
Admittedly it's low volume, thin market, but I really don't think we will see price hanging around when we get live again and we are shipping and hashing. It will go above previous all time highs and if everyone is holding for the divs there will be a low supply meaning it will be a sellers market.
Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 376. (Read 771301 times)
November 13, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
November 13, 2013, 11:27:06 AM
So the million dollar order was fake?
November 13, 2013, 11:25:18 AM
In pictorial terms, this is where ACtM are right now......on our journey......TO THE MOON!!!
November 13, 2013, 11:13:50 AM
wow, let the trolling FUD wheel spin... FUCKERS.
November 13, 2013, 11:11:58 AM
If you have a working chip, working board, cases, working prototype and plenty of these components in stock then the rest is just assembly.
Assembly is nothing in this scenario. So from prototype to shipped product CAN be a very short time. Prototype means different things in different circumstances/industries. Here, after this relatively long lead-out time it means assembly of a few pre manufactured component parts in their designed order. Once you prove that the prototype works the prototype is as good as the finished product, so from prototype to shipping need not be a long process. We hope!
Assembly is nothing in this scenario. So from prototype to shipped product CAN be a very short time. Prototype means different things in different circumstances/industries. Here, after this relatively long lead-out time it means assembly of a few pre manufactured component parts in their designed order. Once you prove that the prototype works the prototype is as good as the finished product, so from prototype to shipping need not be a long process. We hope!
November 13, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Sure but it's a pre-order. So it's for a machine being assembled as we speak. It makes sense that as soon as we can mine for ourselves we should ship big orders so our ACtM mining will go up at the same time as we start shipping and probably not a long time before. Possibly a matter of days.
I hope you are right.
November 13, 2013, 10:55:50 AM
I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business.
Thats ok. I get the feeling I am bitching a bit, not based on your comment at all.
I just want us mining. If we are taking orders for hundreds of TH/s I wonder where our TH/s are?
This order Ken told us about, if we had those machines that would allow us to mine more bitcoin than our mining address has ever received inside of a week.
Its one of those too good to be true things you know.
That order contains over 100 times our entire mining capability.
Sure but it's a pre-order. So it's for a machine being assembled as we speak. It makes sense that as soon as we can mine for ourselves we should ship big orders so our ACtM mining will go up at the same time as we start shipping and probably not a long time before. Possibly a matter of days.
November 13, 2013, 10:53:45 AM
nah if that were the case then he wouldnt be bitching. he lost money if he is acting this way.
+1
I agree 100% that if VE was in profit over ACtM we would NOT be having to deal with his awful disrespect for people.
But when people keep talking to him and taking on his posts and replying he will just keep on with his personal vendeta. He has nothing useful to say about the company anymore. He just uses personal attacks and wise-crack comments. So can we just ignore this loser now?
November 13, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people. if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.
Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.
He isn't dumb. Could be playing the market on bitfunder. =/
November 13, 2013, 10:52:44 AM
I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business.
Thats ok. I get the feeling I am bitching a bit, not based on your comment at all.
I just want us mining. If we are taking orders for hundreds of TH/s I wonder where our TH/s are?
This order Ken told us about, if we had those machines that would allow us to mine more bitcoin than our mining address has ever received inside of a week.
Its one of those too good to be true things you know.
That order contains over 100 times our entire mining capability.
November 13, 2013, 10:47:53 AM
I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business, I too think the order is not important!!!
In other words, we are a mining company first - and a seller of rigs to customers second. So if we can sell to customers we can MINE for ourselves.
In other words, we are a mining company first - and a seller of rigs to customers second. So if we can sell to customers we can MINE for ourselves.
November 13, 2013, 10:46:48 AM
come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people. if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.
Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.
November 13, 2013, 10:45:13 AM
come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people. if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.
Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.
November 13, 2013, 10:43:42 AM
Double plot twist: It was Labcoin making the purchase. 
Triple twist it was just me trying to see if customers where actually asked to pay.Proof: login on yopmail with "cattogocy-7562"
I even put 22 Acacia Avenue as an address (obviously fake right?)
What I didn't expect was the announcement here before any actual payment!
Ken's announcement was hours before those emails
Can you prove this, emails seem to have been deleted. did anyone forward them? I would like to take a look at the headers and compare them with another VMC email
November 13, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
VE can't you criticize Ken like a civilized person instead of being so vulgar and abusive?
Fuck no. He took away my chance at a large fortune.. I had a lot of value in bitcoin and I could have a shitload of money right now if he wasn't such a piece of shit
November 13, 2013, 10:41:35 AM
The main thing to take from this Million dollar order for 6 machines - whether it is genuine or some malicious attack - is that Ken accepted the order and came on here to let us know about it.
That tells us a lot of things:
We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.
So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill the order is pretty significant.
That tells us a lot of things:
We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.
So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill the order is pretty significant.
Trust me, I want to believe!
If Ken can really hit 3% of the network and sell all this gear by the end of November I promise to stop bitching!
Just one of those machines would make more Bitcoin in one day than what has been accumulating in our mining address over the past 2 weeks.
November 13, 2013, 10:38:53 AM
The main thing to take from this Million dollar order for 6 machines - whether it is genuine or some malicious attack - is that Ken accepted the order and came on here to let us know about it.
That tells us a lot of things:
We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.
So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill this huge order is pretty significant.
That tells us a lot of things:
We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.
So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill this huge order is pretty significant.
November 13, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
Double plot twist: It was Labcoin making the purchase.
Triple twist it was just me trying to see if customers where actually asked to pay.Proof: login on yopmail with "cattogocy-7562"
I even put 22 Acacia Avenue as an address (obviously fake right?)
What I didn't expect was the announcement here before any actual payment!
Ken's announcement was hours before those emails
November 13, 2013, 10:31:35 AM
Although I feel like something is wrong. The low volume batch should have been delivered by now...
November 13, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
Nothing worse than an uncivilised moron with a huge chip on his shoulder.
Poor VE isn't rich because Ken didn't do him a favour by dropping everything and transferring shares for him on demand. Do you think Ken is your personal stock broker or something? Get a life, grow up, and start talking to people how you would face to face and you might get on better in life. Blessed are the meek, not the abusive self-centred morons. Why you think anyone would do you a favour when you have that attitude is beyond me.
moron [ˈmɔːrɒn]
n
1. a foolish or stupid person
Poor VE isn't rich because Ken didn't do him a favour by dropping everything and transferring shares for him on demand. Do you think Ken is your personal stock broker or something? Get a life, grow up, and start talking to people how you would face to face and you might get on better in life. Blessed are the meek, not the abusive self-centred morons. Why you think anyone would do you a favour when you have that attitude is beyond me.
moron [ˈmɔːrɒn]
n
1. a foolish or stupid person
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