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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 470. (Read 771288 times)

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all this is great except for the fact that I have already reduced my ActiveMining position to 0, as I assume most other Americans have done or soon will do.  too little too late.  good luck with the company.

False.

Why would I cash out at a loss when none of the reasons I'm invested in ActM have changed? There are many other of us Americans that are still long on ActM. The exchange issue is short-term.

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The fundamentals of ActiveMining have not changed. What's more; this has pushed the market to find a decentralized way of exchange.

It's an interesting time... If you have the stomach for it

I think decentralized is the only way to go as this will happen to any other centralized exchange.  Looking into the Namecoin code to create a decentralized exchanged.  As was said above it can be merged mined with Bitcoin.  We could uses our own miners to get it going.

Colored coin or Mastercoin, how exactly would you use Namecoin?
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chsados, thank you for the info, I understand it more now!


we've been posting it all over this friggin thread for two days now!

VE is a little short on braincells, its why he always erupts about nothing.
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
chsados, thank you for the info, I understand it more now!


we've been posting it all over this friggin thread for two days now!
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chsados, thank you for the info, I understand it more now!
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Did I read that right?  That Ken said he would be able to deploy his miners for these color coins?  There is a reason why we can't use current ASICs to mine for litecoins and other altcoins, and end up resorting to GPU mining.   Are these Fast Hash machines about to break this rule?  I'd like to see an elaboration of this idea that you can use this technology to mine for other coins.. I've never heard of this before!

Colored coins don't need dedicated miners - it uses the normal bitcoin network....

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OK, a bit of history: There were several implementation attempts by different people, but (as far as I know) the only one which has decentralized market as a goal is called BitcoinX. It is like the mainstream of colored coins.

People who started it wanted to create an organization of some sort, but it didn't work very well, and basically I was the only permanent team member.

So I worked on it on and off for about a year. (Since September of 2012, when I made the first prototype.)

Until July of 2013 I treated it like a gig, but then I noticed that BitcoinX isn't going anywhere (lead developer of WebcoinX which was supposed to take over development sort of disappeared), but there is a demand for this technology, but nobody is doing it right.

So since July it is, like, my main occupation.

Still, progress have been slower than I expected: I wasn't able to recruit more people, and I had to split my attention between two projects: WebcoinX and NGCCC.

(In retrospect, I should have focused on NGCCC. My hope was that we can quickly make a WebcoinX demo which will help to popularize colored coins, but it looks like colored coins need a robust implementation more than they need popularization. On the other hand, I previously had some bad experience with ArmoryX.)

So the currently status: we are working on it, it is slower than expected, but there is hope that something will be available this month.

Also, as I mentioned elsewhere, sponsors are willing to provide 200 BTC to fund development, so that's not a problem.

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More details about status:

    I've recently written an article about the theory of colored coins, it summarizes how it works on the low level, but with a dry language. I also plan to write an article about practical aspects of it, like color definitions/asset definitions, trade, issuance and so on. Meanwhile, all this information is available in bitcoinX group archives, but you have to dig to find it.

    NGCCC: We have coloredcoinlib and CCoinDemo prototype, but this prototype isn't adequate, and I'm currently designing a new core. You can see preview here. Working version will be available in a couple of days.

    WebcoinX: The plan was to implement a demo first, and to improve it to make it work on mainnet second. Demo is almost complete, but there was no development in last couple of weeks. [url-https://trello.com/b/n4qoNDDI/webcoinx]Here's TODO list[/url]
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I still hold 50k shares.. I'm part of it whether you like it or not.   Cool

Sell them and FO. Do us and yourself a favour, they are only going down from here. Sell them and FO.

Nah.. I'll keep them for shits and giggles and see what happens.  Thanks though.   Grin
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I still hold 50k shares.. I'm part of it whether you like it or not.   Cool

Sell them and FO. Do us and yourself a favour, they are only going down from here. Sell them and FO.

Careful what you wish for.  Liquidating such a substantial position ain't easy without a bit of slippage, as in ... lol 50% Cheesy
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I still hold 50k shares.. I'm part of it whether you like it or not.   Cool

Sell them and FO. Do us and yourself a favour, they are only going down from here. Sell them and FO.
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We've already seen August.. we're waiting for September sales..



cool story bro. now go away, you're not part of the "we're."

I still hold 50k shares.. I'm part of it whether you like it or not.   Cool
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We've already seen August.. we're waiting for September sales..

We're waiting for you to STFU and FO.

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We've already seen August.. we're waiting for September sales..



cool story bro. now go away, you're not part of the "we're."
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We might as well just be eating our food in the bathroom at lunchtime. It's like we don't even exist  Embarrassed

Cheesy
Lack of marketing, needs to be taken care of, among many other things, asap

That link above breaks my heart.  

Ken will give us August sales figures in five days time.  I don't think these figures will be of much use, however by the end of October he will issue a three month profit and loss statement and a balance sheet.

This information will be of great use and unless it proves that a proactive marketing campaign and a glossy modern website are not a prerequisite to creating a successful and competitive manufacturing company, then we are in the shit.

Basically Ken has chosen to go against the grain and I sincerely hope he proves a lot of people wrong, myself included.

We've already seen August.. we're waiting for September sales..
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Did I read that right?  That Ken said he would be able to deploy his miners for these color coins?  There is a reason why we can't use current ASICs to mine for litecoins and other altcoins, and end up resorting to GPU mining.   Are these Fast Hash machines about to break this rule?  I'd like to see an elaboration of this idea that you can use this technology to mine for other coins.. I've never heard of this before!

I believe Ken is referring to a merge-mined coin similar to namecoin which would let us avoid 51% attack.
It would obviously have to be sha-256 and Ken obviously knows that.

Why are you playing dumb and being so cynical?

because he is an entitled cunt that probably was way too materially spoiled as a child.
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That link above breaks my heart.  

Ken will give us August sales figures in five days time.  I don't think these figures will be of much use, however by the end of October he will issue a three month profit and loss statement and a balance sheet.

This information will be of great use and unless it proves that a proactive marketing campaign and a glossy modern website are not a prerequisite to creating a successful and competitive manufacturing company, then we are in the shit.

Basically Ken has chosen to go against the grain and I sincerely hope he proves a lot of people wrong, myself included.

Even then, there isn't a downside to having a halfway competent marketing/pr campaign going. Even as an insurance policy to grab visibility and orders. Countless times AMC just isn't mentioned among competitors. There isn't a positive side to ignoring it
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myBitcoin.Garden

We might as well just be eating our food in the bathroom at lunchtime. It's like we don't even exist  Embarrassed

Cheesy
Lack of marketing, needs to be taken care of, among many other things, asap

That link above breaks my heart.  

Ken will give us August sales figures in five days time.  I don't think these figures will be of much use, however by the end of October he will issue a three month profit and loss statement and a balance sheet.

This information will be of great use and unless it proves that a proactive marketing campaign and a glossy modern website are not a prerequisite to creating a successful and competitive manufacturing company, then we are in the shit.

Basically Ken has chosen to go against the grain and I sincerely hope he proves a lot of people wrong, myself included.
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(Bitcoin related text here)
I believe there are two options that should be considered until the development is finished with colored coins and they are ready to be implemented:

1.) An Activemining alt-coin that represents shares in the company.

2.) The use of Ripple.

Both of these would act as a decentralized solution to trading shares p2p, collecting dividends, and avoiding any further pressure from outside "authorizes".  
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Did I read that right?  That Ken said he would be able to deploy his miners for these color coins?  There is a reason why we can't use current ASICs to mine for litecoins and other altcoins, and end up resorting to GPU mining.   Are these Fast Hash machines about to break this rule?  I'd like to see an elaboration of this idea that you can use this technology to mine for other coins.. I've never heard of this before!

I believe Ken is referring to a merge-mined coin similar to namecoin which would let us avoid 51% attack.
It would obviously have to be sha-256 and Ken obviously knows that.

Why are you playing dumb and being so cynical?
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(Bitcoin related text here)
Did I read that right?  That Ken said he would be able to deploy his miners for these color coins?  There is a reason why we can't use current ASICs to mine for litecoins and other altcoins, and end up resorting to GPU mining.   Are these Fast Hash machines about to break this rule?  I'd like to see an elaboration of this idea that you can use this technology to mine for other coins.. I've never heard of this before!

I don't think you quite understand of mining works - regardless, he didn't say anything about mining color coins.
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