Topic: Activities In the bounty section should be cancel (Read 414 times)
Like seriously? you are complaining now because you are been demoted to a Jr member? looking through your post history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cjie-1077036 majority of them is bounty report and you are talking about spam?. Like you said, you are one of those people that are here just because of bounty.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect on the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
If you could wear a signature, I am sure you will be wearing one right now, the bulk of your previous posts were bounty reports,you mentioned that some persons are here only here for bounties, I wonder if your post history exclude you from the group. I am not a without faults but at least I don't lie about it. The forum did not state you shouldn't partake in bounties, only don't create spam Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Yes, I have been there before and I have gradually left the bounty section is not giving the merit I want from this forum.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
If you could wear a signature, I am sure you will be wearing one right now, the bulk of your previous posts were bounty reports,you mentioned that some persons are here only here for bounties, I wonder if your post history exclude you from the group. I am not a without faults but at least I don't lie about it. The forum did not state you shouldn't partake in bounties, only don't create spam Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Don't go in the bounty section. Problem solved. I don't mind them as long as they're quarantined to there. It's the shitposting spam that we have to read everywhere else that is the problem. Making posts like this really isn't going to get you any merit.
Over the past few weeks, I've been focusing on a few sections and looking at the quality of the new streams. Perhaps I will highlight only 3 sections.
Meta
Beginners
Technical parameters
it is in these sections, are almost all the old-timers of this forum, who share their merit with the participants. It is here that there are new streams that are of high quality.
You found the activities on the bounty section disturbing, don't go to that section simple. Don't open a thread to tell the forum just to dismantle the section just because you found it uncomfortable.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Don't go in the bounty section. Problem solved. I don't mind them as long as they're quarantined to there. It's the shitposting spam that we have to read everywhere else that is the problem. Making posts like this really isn't going to get you any merit.
Over the past few weeks, I've been focusing on a few sections and looking at the quality of the new streams. Perhaps I will highlight only 3 sections.
Meta
Beginners
Technical parameters
it is in these sections, are almost all the old-timers of this forum, who share their merit with the participants. It is here that there are new streams that are of high quality.
Don't go in the bounty section. Problem solved. I don't mind them as long as they're quarantined to there. It's the shitposting spam that we have to read everywhere else that is the problem. Making posts like this really isn't going to get you any merit.
Word up. I don't know how anyone can navigate this forum without having most sections on ignore. I've got the entire array of altcoin sections on ignore, all of the local boards, and most of the technical ones (since those are above my head and I wouldn't have much to contribute). I can't imagine how I'd find any good threads if I didn't have at least the ANN and altcoin bounty sections on ignore.
But I agree--as long as the spam is confined to the bounty and ANN sections, who gives a crap? What I'd like to see is an end to the signature campaign part of these bounties. I'd love it if all sig campaigns paid in bitcoin, recruited participants in the Services section, and were managed by reputable members who know what a shitposter looks like. This is a recurring fantasy of mine, and while it's unrealistic, it keeps me going here.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
I find it weird that you think bounty section should be cancel and that bounty hunter are not really serious and don't care about forum when you're a bounty hunter yourself. You have joined several bounties and before new ranking system you're not that active in participating to any conversation here except posting your bounty report.
I'm a full pledge proud bounty hunter. I'm enjoying the privilege of involving myself to crypto and blockchain which I find very interesting while earning through bounties and I find nothing wrong with that. As long as you're not one liner shitposter spammer there's absolutely nothing wrong being bounty hunter.
OP misspelled cankle:
After the introduction of the merit system, I realized that is in the section economy, altcoins and speculation is not worth it. There all questions are the same type and the answers are also the same. Many old-timers of this forum believe this is a shitpost, and they are of low quality.
Recently I began to write in other sections of this forum, in order to be noticed and to change his story last messages. Yes I participate in bounty company and use my signature, but that doesn't say I don't want to help this forum become the best. I set myself the right goals.
1) Improve English
2) Write unique articles
3) Give more time and effort than receive in return
4) Earn coins or bitcoin from signature
5) to Increase the rank and get the achievements.
Recently I began to write in other sections of this forum, in order to be noticed and to change his story last messages. Yes I participate in bounty company and use my signature, but that doesn't say I don't want to help this forum become the best. I set myself the right goals.
1) Improve English
2) Write unique articles
3) Give more time and effort than receive in return
4) Earn coins or bitcoin from signature
5) to Increase the rank and get the achievements.
If you want change mate then act as one. As per review on your posts history I can see that you're into bounty posts. Is this your medication posts?
Did you read my post very well? The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Hey!!! You have doubled (i don't want to say steal) my thread wrote just two days ago! When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
What was the purpose of writing another thread on exactly the same topic when one already was on the first site of meta section?
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When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
Activity on this forum is a parameter based on the post count and time since being registered. Being more precisely it’s minimal value from the total number of posts and the number of 14 days periods one’s posted since registration multiplied by 14.
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
The idea of providing this parameter was also decreasing spam. After this implementation spamming more than one post per day became useless if ones purpose was only get higher rank. Other words it became impossible to rank any account faster than fixed period of time.
Ok, that happen in 2013 and it works until today. Has anything changed since 2013? I think it has! Few years ago new era – ICO’s Era has come. But I don’t want to talk about altcoins in general but only about two activities connected with ICOs - bounty and airdrop.
Why? What makes the difference?
Before bounty and airdorp threads have started, each post even shit one had “meaning”. By posting anything you started a new topic of discussion or simply took a part in existing one. Even if the posts were only “Yes”, “I don’t agree”, “I like this project”, “Bulshit!”, etc. they were somebody's voice in discussion. It also means that poster at least has read a few post from the thread to chose if his answer should be “You’ve right!” or “What a nonsense!”.
What about airdrops and bounties? Posts in such threads in 99,99% only inform about 2 things:
1. "I want free coins!”
2. “I did my job - here is my report/retweets/reposts...”
And that’s it... nothing else... Other words they have completely no meaning from discussion board point of view. This case they shouldn’t also be treated like any kind of activity on forum. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not against bounties or airdrops I’ve also taken part in many of them, but look the situation:
Today it’s possible that guy whose only activity on forum was asking for free coins 60 times (airdrop) or taking part in few bounties is writing one good post (or get 10 merits in other way – as you all know it’s unfortunately possible) and he is automatically given Member rank. Does such guy really deserve Member rank?
Even in signature bounty campaigns posts from bounty threads are not counted so why we should count it while calculating important Activity parameter.
Summing up: my idea is to cut off the posts written in bounties section from the number of posts used to calculate activity parameter.
I’m not sure how difficult it could be from the developer side, but if there are future, which divides all written post into 14-days periods and then calculated only not empty periods probably there would be also possibility to cut off post from bounty board while calculation activity.
When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
Activity on this forum is a parameter based on the post count and time since being registered. Being more precisely it’s minimal value from the total number of posts and the number of 14 days periods one’s posted since registration multiplied by 14.
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
The idea of providing this parameter was also decreasing spam. After this implementation spamming more than one post per day became useless if ones purpose was only get higher rank. Other words it became impossible to rank any account faster than fixed period of time.
Ok, that happen in 2013 and it works until today. Has anything changed since 2013? I think it has! Few years ago new era – ICO’s Era has come. But I don’t want to talk about altcoins in general but only about two activities connected with ICOs - bounty and airdrop.
Why? What makes the difference?
Before bounty and airdorp threads have started, each post even shit one had “meaning”. By posting anything you started a new topic of discussion or simply took a part in existing one. Even if the posts were only “Yes”, “I don’t agree”, “I like this project”, “Bulshit!”, etc. they were somebody's voice in discussion. It also means that poster at least has read a few post from the thread to chose if his answer should be “You’ve right!” or “What a nonsense!”.
What about airdrops and bounties? Posts in such threads in 99,99% only inform about 2 things:
1. "I want free coins!”
2. “I did my job - here is my report/retweets/reposts...”
And that’s it... nothing else... Other words they have completely no meaning from discussion board point of view. This case they shouldn’t also be treated like any kind of activity on forum. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not against bounties or airdrops I’ve also taken part in many of them, but look the situation:
Today it’s possible that guy whose only activity on forum was asking for free coins 60 times (airdrop) or taking part in few bounties is writing one good post (or get 10 merits in other way – as you all know it’s unfortunately possible) and he is automatically given Member rank. Does such guy really deserve Member rank?
Even in signature bounty campaigns posts from bounty threads are not counted so why we should count it while calculating important Activity parameter.
Summing up: my idea is to cut off the posts written in bounties section from the number of posts used to calculate activity parameter.
I’m not sure how difficult it could be from the developer side, but if there are future, which divides all written post into 14-days periods and then calculated only not empty periods probably there would be also possibility to cut off post from bounty board while calculation activity.
Hey, I never see your post before posting this. Your post was generalizing the bounty compaign program, but mine hit on the target of cancellation. I don't post like that, but I think before posting. Thanks
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Hey!!! You have doubled (i don't want to say steal) my thread wrote just two days ago! When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
What was the purpose of writing another thread on exactly the same topic when one already was on the first site of meta section?
...
When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
Activity on this forum is a parameter based on the post count and time since being registered. Being more precisely it’s minimal value from the total number of posts and the number of 14 days periods one’s posted since registration multiplied by 14.
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
The idea of providing this parameter was also decreasing spam. After this implementation spamming more than one post per day became useless if ones purpose was only get higher rank. Other words it became impossible to rank any account faster than fixed period of time.
Ok, that happen in 2013 and it works until today. Has anything changed since 2013? I think it has! Few years ago new era – ICO’s Era has come. But I don’t want to talk about altcoins in general but only about two activities connected with ICOs - bounty and airdrop.
Why? What makes the difference?
Before bounty and airdorp threads have started, each post even shit one had “meaning”. By posting anything you started a new topic of discussion or simply took a part in existing one. Even if the posts were only “Yes”, “I don’t agree”, “I like this project”, “Bulshit!”, etc. they were somebody's voice in discussion. It also means that poster at least has read a few post from the thread to chose if his answer should be “You’ve right!” or “What a nonsense!”.
What about airdrops and bounties? Posts in such threads in 99,99% only inform about 2 things:
1. "I want free coins!”
2. “I did my job - here is my report/retweets/reposts...”
And that’s it... nothing else... Other words they have completely no meaning from discussion board point of view. This case they shouldn’t also be treated like any kind of activity on forum. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not against bounties or airdrops I’ve also taken part in many of them, but look the situation:
Today it’s possible that guy whose only activity on forum was asking for free coins 60 times (airdrop) or taking part in few bounties is writing one good post (or get 10 merits in other way – as you all know it’s unfortunately possible) and he is automatically given Member rank. Does such guy really deserve Member rank?
Even in signature bounty campaigns posts from bounty threads are not counted so why we should count it while calculating important Activity parameter.
Summing up: my idea is to cut off the posts written in bounties section from the number of posts used to calculate activity parameter.
I’m not sure how difficult it could be from the developer side, but if there are future, which divides all written post into 14-days periods and then calculated only not empty periods probably there would be also possibility to cut off post from bounty board while calculation activity.
When everybody says “Merit” I'm asking: What about Activity???
Activity on this forum is a parameter based on the post count and time since being registered. Being more precisely it’s minimal value from the total number of posts and the number of 14 days periods one’s posted since registration multiplied by 14.
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
The idea of providing this parameter was also decreasing spam. After this implementation spamming more than one post per day became useless if ones purpose was only get higher rank. Other words it became impossible to rank any account faster than fixed period of time.
Ok, that happen in 2013 and it works until today. Has anything changed since 2013? I think it has! Few years ago new era – ICO’s Era has come. But I don’t want to talk about altcoins in general but only about two activities connected with ICOs - bounty and airdrop.
Why? What makes the difference?
Before bounty and airdorp threads have started, each post even shit one had “meaning”. By posting anything you started a new topic of discussion or simply took a part in existing one. Even if the posts were only “Yes”, “I don’t agree”, “I like this project”, “Bulshit!”, etc. they were somebody's voice in discussion. It also means that poster at least has read a few post from the thread to chose if his answer should be “You’ve right!” or “What a nonsense!”.
What about airdrops and bounties? Posts in such threads in 99,99% only inform about 2 things:
1. "I want free coins!”
2. “I did my job - here is my report/retweets/reposts...”
And that’s it... nothing else... Other words they have completely no meaning from discussion board point of view. This case they shouldn’t also be treated like any kind of activity on forum. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not against bounties or airdrops I’ve also taken part in many of them, but look the situation:
Today it’s possible that guy whose only activity on forum was asking for free coins 60 times (airdrop) or taking part in few bounties is writing one good post (or get 10 merits in other way – as you all know it’s unfortunately possible) and he is automatically given Member rank. Does such guy really deserve Member rank?
Even in signature bounty campaigns posts from bounty threads are not counted so why we should count it while calculating important Activity parameter.
Summing up: my idea is to cut off the posts written in bounties section from the number of posts used to calculate activity parameter.
I’m not sure how difficult it could be from the developer side, but if there are future, which divides all written post into 14-days periods and then calculated only not empty periods probably there would be also possibility to cut off post from bounty board while calculation activity.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Yes I absolutely agree with u, I would even prefer, if they prohibit all these bounty reports, it really nervs and disturb by reading the forum
If you want change mate then act as one. As per review on your posts history I can see that you're into bounty posts. Is this your medication posts?
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Well good for you if you truly care about the things that you need in this forum.However, I don't want things to end up on those spamming section by deleting those sections since those are the only things that matter to me getting a small reward just like what others think might be a big deal for me. I have been to those section and I bet theymos has a little patience since he does allow other people spamming on that area and what he did was to reduce only the amount of spammers by requiring 1 merit for newbie to rank up to jr. member. Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum.
Its just another section of the forum. Come one now dont be a douchbag about everything the forum has to offer. A simpler solution would be to Add the board to Ignore list in the profile settings.Quote
There is a lot of spam in there.
Any section is vulnerable to spam. Mods do their best to clean up the everyday looss motion and bouts of dysentery in the forum by newbie shitposters but something this nursing gets out of hand.Quote
I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want. Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
So now you are coming to your own self. You made this thread so as the gain the attention of people who hate the bounty spammers hoping that this negative attitude of your would help you get some merits. Cheap attempt but its become old now and spam for your information.The OP does not deserve a single merit on this post. Move on folks.
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Canceling bounty section all together would hurt a lot of good projects that are just trying to get some attention and potential investors (which I'm sure are in great numbers on a forum of this magnitude). That's why I really like these suggestions - because they could actually help solve a problem. Except for raising the threshold for bounty signatures - if bounty managers would supervise their threads and remove spammers from participation, that would be unnecessary anyway.
The current Merit system of the forum is set for this issue.we have seen that the Merit system is currently working.
As for the bounty section, I think the root of the problem is not on the bounty section, but on some of the rules of the bounty campaign.
For the cancellation of the bounty section, this is only a last resort, when all the ways can not stop spams.
1. Regarding the social media bounty reporting system, most of the bounty requires reporting in the thread, which leads to a huge thread,and each page are all links of social media.
Solution：
Use Google Forms to report instead of reporting in a thread.
Edit the original report post instead of creating a new report post weekly.
2. Signature bounty，most signature bounty is only for the number of words, the number of posts is required, and the quality of the post is ignored. There are some signature bounties that said zero tolerance for Spams, but there is no serious check on whether a post is Spam.
Solution：
Establish a system in which the bounty manager is responsible for the behavior of the participants. For the bounty participants who have a large number of Spam in the post, the bounty manager shall promptly discover and cancel the qualifications. If the bounty manager does not act for a long time and continues to calculate Spammers's stakes, then the bounty manager will face a penalty of negative trust. This can encourage the reward manager to act more aggressively.
Raise the threshold for signature bounty participants, the minimum level should be members, not Jr members.
3. Build a bad bounty campaign reporting system, anyone who finds a bad bounty campaign can report in a section.
As for the bounty section, I think the root of the problem is not on the bounty section, but on some of the rules of the bounty campaign.
For the cancellation of the bounty section, this is only a last resort, when all the ways can not stop spams.
1. Regarding the social media bounty reporting system, most of the bounty requires reporting in the thread, which leads to a huge thread,and each page are all links of social media.
Solution：
Use Google Forms to report instead of reporting in a thread.
Edit the original report post instead of creating a new report post weekly.
2. Signature bounty，most signature bounty is only for the number of words, the number of posts is required, and the quality of the post is ignored. There are some signature bounties that said zero tolerance for Spams, but there is no serious check on whether a post is Spam.
Solution：
Establish a system in which the bounty manager is responsible for the behavior of the participants. For the bounty participants who have a large number of Spam in the post, the bounty manager shall promptly discover and cancel the qualifications. If the bounty manager does not act for a long time and continues to calculate Spammers's stakes, then the bounty manager will face a penalty of negative trust. This can encourage the reward manager to act more aggressively.
Raise the threshold for signature bounty participants, the minimum level should be members, not Jr members.
3. Build a bad bounty campaign reporting system, anyone who finds a bad bounty campaign can report in a section.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Really now? What's with the sudden change? Yayy it's for merit but looking your post history it's almost bounty reports. If you want to have a real change better to delete those 19 page bounty reports and start posting more relevant topics. Try to read more than writing. Getting out from the box won't harm you either.Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
These will help you for starting up.
Don't go in the bounty section. Problem solved. I don't mind them as long as they're quarantined to there. It's the shitposting spam that we have to read everywhere else that is the problem. Making posts like this really isn't going to get you any merit.
I agree with this, and it is why I believe that Bitcoin Talk needs to bifurcate.
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The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Don't go in the bounty section. Problem solved. I don't mind them as long as they're quarantined to there. It's the shitposting spam that we have to read everywhere else that is the problem. Making posts like this really isn't going to get you any merit.
Thanks to good bounty manager they were able to find good solution on this problem by providing an automated system where one does not really need to report and post in a thread. Some of them are using google report forms to fill in data that should be reported. In this way for sure that the job for Bounty Manager would be lesser as well as the spamming activity on the bounty reports bumping a thread.
The current Merit system of the forum is set for this issue.we have seen that the Merit system is currently working.
As for the bounty section, I think the root of the problem is not on the bounty section, but on some of the rules of the bounty campaign.
For the cancellation of the bounty section, this is only a last resort, when all the ways can not stop spams.
1. Regarding the social media bounty reporting system, most of the bounty requires reporting in the thread, which leads to a huge thread,and each page are all links of social media.
Solution：
Use Google Forms to report instead of reporting in a thread.
Edit the original report post instead of creating a new report post weekly.
2. Signature bounty，most signature bounty is only for the number of words, the number of posts is required, and the quality of the post is ignored. There are some signature bounties that said zero tolerance for Spams, but there is no serious check on whether a post is Spam.
Solution：
Establish a system in which the bounty manager is responsible for the behavior of the participants. For the bounty participants who have a large number of Spam in the post, the bounty manager shall promptly discover and cancel the qualifications. If the bounty manager does not act for a long time and continues to calculate Spammers's stakes, then the bounty manager will face a penalty of negative trust. This can encourage the reward manager to act more aggressively.
Raise the threshold for signature bounty participants, the minimum level should be members, not Jr members.
3. Build a bad bounty campaign reporting system, anyone who finds a bad bounty campaign can report in a section.
As for the bounty section, I think the root of the problem is not on the bounty section, but on some of the rules of the bounty campaign.
For the cancellation of the bounty section, this is only a last resort, when all the ways can not stop spams.
1. Regarding the social media bounty reporting system, most of the bounty requires reporting in the thread, which leads to a huge thread,and each page are all links of social media.
Solution：
Use Google Forms to report instead of reporting in a thread.
Edit the original report post instead of creating a new report post weekly.
2. Signature bounty，most signature bounty is only for the number of words, the number of posts is required, and the quality of the post is ignored. There are some signature bounties that said zero tolerance for Spams, but there is no serious check on whether a post is Spam.
Solution：
Establish a system in which the bounty manager is responsible for the behavior of the participants. For the bounty participants who have a large number of Spam in the post, the bounty manager shall promptly discover and cancel the qualifications. If the bounty manager does not act for a long time and continues to calculate Spammers's stakes, then the bounty manager will face a penalty of negative trust. This can encourage the reward manager to act more aggressively.
Raise the threshold for signature bounty participants, the minimum level should be members, not Jr members.
3. Build a bad bounty campaign reporting system, anyone who finds a bad bounty campaign can report in a section.
The activities in the bounty section should be cancel because it has no major effect in the forum. There is a lot of spam in there. I have been there for a while now. The activities don't prove your real self. I have changed to other sections of the forum to enable start getting the desirable merit I want.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
Some people are there just because of the bounty program and not having the forum in mind.
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