Activity freeze for those who ask about activity?

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Quote from: hilariousandco on September 07, 2014, 11:29:48 AM

Quote from: beetcoin on September 07, 2014, 01:37:47 AM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 03:12:37 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

That's a fair reason, but there's no need for it, believe me I've got expirience in running a forum board.

yeah, people look for the slightest reasons to react to something.. especially the people here who are always anti-authoritarian.

if it were me, i'd make it a requirement that the newbies read for most common FAQ questions before being able to register an account.

They still wouldn't read it or take any of it in, and even if they were 'forced' to read it it really wouldn't stop stupid threads in here being created so there's probably very little that can be done about it to be honest.

it wouldn't solve all issues, but if they are given the information right away, it'll deter at least some of the repetitive posts.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp on September 03, 2014, 03:07:56 PM

Obviously, these people are more concerned about activity than quality of posts.

How about no activity for the two week period?

To be fair it took me a decent amount of time before I understood anything about activity increasing. This was mainly due to me only ever being in bitcoin discussion/altcoins for the most part. And when I did go into the other sections where it had a sticky about it I just didn't notice it as I am so used to ignoring sticky things because I generally don't care about them.

At one point I did ask about it and I did try to google it and just couldn't get answers I needed. But I know about it now and it would help if it was included in the "Help" section in the main toolbar on this site but it isn't in there at all.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

I've never understood why there isn't an instant link and lock to the question, or a macro'ed answer reminding them to search for the answer first. If I'm made mod I'd be cleaning this stuff up.

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Quote from: jackjack on September 07, 2014, 11:20:10 AM

The problem is that you'd see a website containing all the answers popping up really soon

Viewing it from another perceptive, the essence of the bitcointalk FAQs will be posted in many different websites and each new users will voluntarily read it lol. Grin

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If it bothers admins (and this is not the case), the only solution is punishing such behavior
It's just common sense: when you're new somewhere you search for habits before asking about them

Moreover when the rules are on the top of the page on which you send your thread!
"Search then post". Not the other way around!

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Quote from: beetcoin on September 07, 2014, 01:37:47 AM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 03:12:37 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

That's a fair reason, but there's no need for it, believe me I've got expirience in running a forum board.

yeah, people look for the slightest reasons to react to something.. especially the people here who are always anti-authoritarian.

if it were me, i'd make it a requirement that the newbies read for most common FAQ questions before being able to register an account.

They still wouldn't read it or take any of it in, and even if they were 'forced' to read it it really wouldn't stop stupid threads in here being created so there's probably very little that can be done about it to be honest.

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Quote from: silvestar on September 07, 2014, 10:02:13 AM

Quote from: beetcoin on September 07, 2014, 01:37:47 AM

if it were me, i'd make it a requirement that the newbies read for most common FAQ questions before being able to register an account.

IMO, they should be asked to read the FAQs and then be required to get through a short and simple multiple choice quiz on activity, forum rank, posting limit, etc. before they can actually make their very first post. Grin

+1

The problem is that you'd see a website containing all the answers popping up really soon

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Quote from: beetcoin on September 07, 2014, 01:37:47 AM

if it were me, i'd make it a requirement that the newbies read for most common FAQ questions before being able to register an account.

IMO, they should be asked to read the FAQs and then be required to get through a short and simple multiple choice quiz on activity, forum rank, posting limit, etc. before they can actually make their very first post. Grin

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Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 03:12:37 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

That's a fair reason, but there's no need for it, believe me I've got expirience in running a forum board.

yeah, people look for the slightest reasons to react to something.. especially the people here who are always anti-authoritarian.

if it were me, i'd make it a requirement that the newbies read for most common FAQ questions before being able to register an account.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

+1

A new joiner may not know much about the bitcointalk rule, but they should have learned to read the sticky threads.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on September 06, 2014, 02:49:56 PM

Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

That's a fair reason, but there's no need for it, believe me I've got expirience in running a forum board.

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Quote from: iVory1 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:07 PM

No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

But what about punishing them for not searching or at least not checking the first page of this sub where there is usually at least two threads answering their queries?

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No need to punish the Newbie users for not knowing how the activity works

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I don't think that would be a good idea and mod will do it. Many are telling to change the current activity system. They want to reach higher level in much easier way and then, they want to earn BTC through campaigns. So 'activity freeze' will be bad idea. Asking about activity doesn't mean that the person isn't posting quality contents.

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This is a perfect idea to piss off newbies that are simply confused and want to ask about it, lossing a lot of potential new users. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: beetcoin on September 06, 2014, 01:24:25 AM

Quote from: bluefirecorp on September 03, 2014, 03:13:49 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on September 03, 2014, 03:10:34 PM

i'm thinking that would be a bad idea. this place is already anti-establishment as it is, and if you were to enact an iron fist on the dummies (and they are dummies) who are complaining that their activity isn't moving up as they would like... there would be even more hatred and discontent towards the mods.

if i were a staff/mod, i think the biggest challenge for me is to deal with all the stupidity going on in the forums Cheesy

Activity really doesn't matter all that much. I mean, seriously. The only annoying thing about activity is when you have the 360 positing limit. The second that limit goes away, you shouldn't really care about activity.

Then again, a newbie, you shouldn't be positing a ton unless you're a special snowflake that actually understands what's going on. Then again, if you know what's all going on, you're probably a ban evader.

i'm glad you're not a moderator. someone with zero tolerance (and demands people do everything their way) will usually end up alienating a lot of people.

I'm glad I'm not a moderator either. Dealing with so many idiots on a daily basis would be rather bad for my health. The only reason I currently remain sane is that I truly believe half the forum is just trolling.

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Quote from: bluefirecorp on September 03, 2014, 03:13:49 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on September 03, 2014, 03:10:34 PM

i'm thinking that would be a bad idea. this place is already anti-establishment as it is, and if you were to enact an iron fist on the dummies (and they are dummies) who are complaining that their activity isn't moving up as they would like... there would be even more hatred and discontent towards the mods.

if i were a staff/mod, i think the biggest challenge for me is to deal with all the stupidity going on in the forums Cheesy

Activity really doesn't matter all that much. I mean, seriously. The only annoying thing about activity is when you have the 360 positing limit. The second that limit goes away, you shouldn't really care about activity.

Then again, a newbie, you shouldn't be positing a ton unless you're a special snowflake that actually understands what's going on. Then again, if you know what's all going on, you're probably a ban evader.

i'm glad you're not a moderator. someone with zero tolerance (and demands people do everything their way) will usually end up alienating a lot of people.

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Quote from: acs267 on September 05, 2014, 11:19:36 PM

I don't think that should happen. Most of the people who ask that question are Newbies that just didn't read anything. That doesn't necessarily make them a spammer. It should be more like, 'Not spammer unless proven guilty'. That sounds crazy to just go and do that. It's not really the most major problem on BitcoinTalk.

It's not like it's a ban or anything. It may teach them to read rather than randomly post. It's ONLY a 14 day period, seriously. You can go without activity for a whole two weeks man.

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I don't think that should happen. Most of the people who ask that question are Newbies that just didn't read anything. That doesn't necessarily make them a spammer. It should be more like, 'Not spammer unless proven guilty'. That sounds crazy to just go and do that. It's not really the most major problem on BitcoinTalk.

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Quote from: jaberwock on September 03, 2014, 05:57:04 PM

Your rank gives your privileges about your signature and other stuff that are central to the forum.
You may find it useless, but don't try enforce it to everyone under the pretext that those who think different are spammers or something.

Are you being that transparent? If the only reason you're bitching about activity is you aren't getting paid more in a signature campaign, I think you should be banned honestly. Signature campaigns are nice for a tiny bit of extra income for posts that you ALREADY do. When I was part of primedice and updown.bt's campaigns, my posting remained steady.

If you're REALLY only posting / wanting to post to join a signature campaign, then wow, just wow. I'm fairly sure those who run the campaigns would agree with me.

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