Activity & new membergroup limits - page 69.

MagicBit15

sr. member

Activity: 294

Merit: 250

Let's Start a Cryptolution!!

Quote from: Peter Lambert on June 18, 2013, 04:28:19 PM

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

This is bullsh*t. If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar. No one is just going to click your profile?

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

Everybody has been saying that measuring people based on post count is a bad way to grant trust, so this should not affect anybody detrimentally.

Yeah I agree, but it's simple, just put both stats up. I don't think it's a bad idea, it just is incomplete.

I also don't know of many forums that don't display your post count next to your name, it's just weird, so let's get this fixed!!

Peter Lambert

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 500

It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

This is bullsh*t. If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar. No one is just going to click your profile?

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

Everybody has been saying that measuring people based on post count is a bad way to grant trust, so this should not affect anybody detrimentally.

Akka

legendary

Activity: 1232

Merit: 1001

I like this, even if I'm not a hero member anymore Sad

Feels weird.

The time someone is in bitcoin + the contribution to this forum is really a good measure for a member status.

Great Idea theymos.

Quote from: TomUnderSea on June 18, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

Spamming is discouraged but so is posting.

Posting is not discouraged, it's just not rewarded. Don't tell me you are here only to get that hero member tag.

Actually, now Hero Member finally means something and not only that I was able to make 500 posts in the "first word that pops into your head" thread.

Matthew N. Wright

hero member

Activity: 588

Merit: 500

Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet

Quote from: jackjack on June 18, 2013, 04:21:15 PM

Quote from: TomUnderSea on June 18, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

Spamming is discouraged but so is posting.

So you post only if you feel you get trust from this?
You're exactly the point of the new system...

That's not entirely fair, he never came off like a guy posting here to build trust. Just seems to want to be involved in some things but busy enough not to be able to be involved in all things. For people like that, I don't know, maybe this hurts their activity rating and when people are saying "Low activity = scammer", maybe that's going to affect him negatively.

jackjack

legendary

Activity: 1176

Merit: 1280

May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage

Quote from: TomUnderSea on June 18, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

Spamming is discouraged but so is posting.

So you post only if you feel you get trust from this?
You're exactly the point of the new system...

greyhawk

hero member

Activity: 952

Merit: 1009

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

You're here a short 5 months. Why are you worried about longtime forum members?

Matthew N. Wright

hero member

Activity: 588

Merit: 500

Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet

Quote from: Meni Rosenfeld on June 18, 2013, 04:10:31 PM

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:44:42 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

I don't like it.

It embodies the assumption that any post above once per day (averaged over two weeks) is not contributing; which I do not agree with.

At the very least number of posts per day should be increased, e.g. min(time * 28, posts).

And you should consider more sophisticated metrics such as sum of f(x) over all two-week periods, f(x) being x / (1 + sqrt(x/14)) or x / (1 + x/28).

Time spent logged in will also be useful to include as a component.

I flunked math, but I could add that logged in time is easily gamable now with sites like newbiejail.org, so it would probably make more sense to judge length of posts as well. The best thing would be if Theymos accepted my request months ago to make a "post vote" and "user trust circle" function to allow for ratings of posts by content, eliminate newbie jail entirely by having a trusted user trust you, etc.

MagicBit15

sr. member

Activity: 294

Merit: 250

Let's Start a Cryptolution!!

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

This is bullsh*t. If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar. No one is just going to click your profile?

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

No, changing people's titles to "Scammer" and "Untrustworthy" despite evidence of the opposite is discrediting longtime forum members. This is allowing long time forum members to be respected for what they actually are--- ACTIVE-- and stop rewarding newbies for creating new accounts and spamming.

Please re-read before you post. Second this fix has nothing to do with being a scammer or untrustworthy. It is doing more harm than good in literally the 35 min it has been up lol.

Also, for the second so it doesn't get reiterated.

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If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar.

Thank you!!

TomUnderSea

full member

Activity: 126

Merit: 100

So effectively my max activity level will be the number of days I have been a member but only if I post every week or so.

Posting more than my time counter does not increase my activity level.

Spamming is discouraged but so is posting.

iANDROID

full member

Activity: 182

Merit: 100

Swiss Money all around me!

Quote from: ?? on ??

How about "Untrustworthy"?

Rare distinction!

nimda

hero member

Activity: 784

Merit: 1000

0xFB0D8D1534241423

Quote from: Meni Rosenfeld on June 18, 2013, 04:10:31 PM

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:44:42 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

I don't like it.

It embodies the assumption that any post above once per day (averaged over two weeks) is not contributing; which I do not agree with.

At the very least number of posts per day should be increased, e.g. min(time * 28, posts).

And you should consider more sophisticated metrics such as sum of f(x) over all two-week periods, f(x) being x / (1 + sqrt(x/14)) or x / (1 + x/28).

Time spent logged in will also be useful to include as a component.

Now let's take the indefinite integral of that function...

Meni Rosenfeld

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1054

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:44:42 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

I don't like it.

It embodies the assumption that any post above once per day (averaged over two weeks) is not contributing; which I do not agree with.

At the very least number of posts per day should be increased, e.g. min(time * 28, posts).

And you should consider more sophisticated metrics such as sum of f(x) over all two-week periods, f(x) being x / (1 + sqrt(x/14)) or x / (1 + x/28).

Time spent logged in will also be useful to include as a component.

MagicBit15

sr. member

Activity: 294

Merit: 250

Let's Start a Cryptolution!!

Bug: Also this is me trying to post the question emoticon

Fixed

Matthew N. Wright

hero member

Activity: 588

Merit: 500

Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet

Quote from: nimda on June 18, 2013, 04:07:50 PM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on June 18, 2013, 04:06:53 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on June 18, 2013, 04:06:07 PM

The next logical step would be to cut the status of people who haven't posted in X time interval.

You can't be a Hero if you've not posted the past week, you can't be Senior if you've not posted the past month. It'd help with the buying/hacking old accounts to prop scams.

This.

satoshi would wind up being a newbie Cheesy

Edit: he's fixed at "founder"

Nah, he's listed permanently as "Founder".

Quote from: MagicBit15 on June 18, 2013, 04:08:10 PM

This is bullsh*t. If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar. No one is just going to click your profile?

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

No, changing people's titles to "Scammer" and "Untrustworthy" despite evidence of the opposite is discrediting longtime forum members. This is allowing long time forum members to be respected for what they actually are--- ACTIVE-- and stop rewarding newbies for creating new accounts and spamming.

MagicBit15

sr. member

Activity: 294

Merit: 250

Let's Start a Cryptolution!!

This is bullsh*t. If your going to do a post/activity ratio crap, you need to have both available next to the avatar. No one is just going to click your profile?

It's discrediting longtime forum members. Please Fix this immediately!!

worldinacoin

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 500

What is number of two weeks period? Meaning every two weeks after I registered and post in that two weeks?

Bitcoinorama

hero member

Activity: 532

Merit: 500

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:50:01 PM

Maybe I'll add a new group between Jr. Member and Full member. What should it be called?

Intermediary Member would prob sit best, unless you wanted to have fun with people...

nimda

hero member

Activity: 784

Merit: 1000

0xFB0D8D1534241423

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on June 18, 2013, 04:06:53 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on June 18, 2013, 04:06:07 PM

The next logical step would be to cut the status of people who haven't posted in X time interval.

You can't be a Hero if you've not posted the past week, you can't be Senior if you've not posted the past month. It'd help with the buying/hacking old accounts to prop scams.

This.

satoshi would wind up being a newbie Cheesy

Edit: he's fixed at "founder"

Matthew N. Wright

hero member

Activity: 588

Merit: 500

Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet

Quote from: MPOE-PR on June 18, 2013, 04:06:07 PM

The next logical step would be to cut the status of people who haven't posted in X time interval.

You can't be a Hero if you've not posted the past week, you can't be Senior if you've not posted the past month. It'd help with the buying/hacking old accounts to prop scams.

This.

MPOE-PR

hero member

Activity: 756

Merit: 522

The next logical step would be to cut the status of people who haven't posted in X time interval.

You can't be a Hero if you've not posted the past week, you can't be Senior if you've not posted the past month. It'd help with the buying/hacking old accounts to prop scams.

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