Topic: ActSeller scam me (Read 2948 times)

yes. please close the thread

Do moderators ever close threads here? Or are we going to wait for ActSeller to suddenly make up some more claims from 2013? It's been determined that everything is fine now...

i have deposited on 2014 september. and i am looking to sell this account now. typing auction details now.
thats never mind anyway as i have nothing lost. i have several bitcointalk accounts and posting from most of it to increase account value.
so as i said i am not saying that he stole something, i am just saying that he wanted. i dont have access to that btctalk account we have traded from, as i already sold it long time ago. so i cant prove anything else. all i could, i did

mamania , your this account (forum) is of april 2016 and your nitrogenbet ss says you deposited money in september 2015 , can you let us know with which account you dealt with ctlaltdefeat?

ok i took my time and reinstated that account #101
this scammer sold for me for 0.1BTC and since then i never used as first try to deposit 2.71BTC went with his try to steal.
i want user ctlaltdefeat to return my 0.1btc i have payed.
and i will return him this account with perfect numbers.
(realised that after 2 years this account worth very big money for advertising purposes of betting pick on nitro life chat. not selling for that price, will auction it here on digital goods thread.
anyway he is scammer.
i hope this will prove my words now: http://imgur.com/bH4ad5r

i have access to his account. so how i could have access to his account if my words wasnt correct?

and here is the proof that he have told support that he was hacked when i sent 2.71 BTC on that account.
simply he wanted to take contorl of my money, thats what he wrote to support:
http://imgur.com/JBWQFWe

well.
throwing first questions.

ctlaltdefeat haven't you sold account on nitrogensports with loggin name : ctlaltdefeat
account number #101
?

A warning I cant verify means nothing to me. You might as well be a troll for all you provided.

I don't care what you think. couple of stars near your name doesn't mean that you are reputable. thats only anonymous forum account.
and as i said, same name user have tried to stole my money as well.
that's not an accusation, i am too lazy for that. or i could do that if this scammer would return my 0.1BTC i have payed for his account.
without being payed back i dont see a point wasting my time bringing a prove and disclosing my private data and blockchain info for no reason.

call it hot air. but don't tell me latter that i haven't warned you.

With your reputation (none) here its just hot air. If you are too lazy to provide something that can be confirmed, dont bother posting as its just wasting time.

don't remember that dude?
dont force me to provide that chat with support about you try to steal my 2,6BTC deposit.
i remember your name very well.
my native language is not english, so i am happy at least i can type.
and i hope you can understand my words

New account with broken English...
Couldn't possibly be ActSeller could it...?  

What's also quite amusing is that I'm trying my best to transfer various signature campaign funds to Aleister, as I recognise that all this likely isn't his fault, whilst in the meantime he's grasping at straws to find evidence of some foul play. This despite him stating beforehand that he will recognise the owner of the address as the rightful owner of the account.

That was almost 2 years ago.
everything has passed. i havent lost those 2.6BTC but he tried to steal.
anyway i am too lazy to bring all the prove, just warning - he is lier and thief.

Interesting,  please mention all your proof here.
Or you may want to create a new accusation thread.

Man you are a scammer. Remember what happen at 2014? Ha?
You was about to steal big money from our team.
2.6 BTC
I have all the proof, my chats with support and so on.
So shut up bitch and pay that man back his money for a stolen account

Who owns that ctlaltdefeat email?
Because same name user have tried to scam me by the same way.
I have bought nitrogensports account from him and secured it.
Deposited 2.6 BTC to it and my account got locked with money in it that was worth around 1500$ that time.
The thing is that user was logged in to that account same time he sold me. So he couldn't reach that BTC as it was secured by 2FA, but what he did he opened support ticked that his account was hacked. Thanks God nitrogensports support is the best on the web and with their help I got my BTC back. But haven't got back the account I have payed 0.1BTC for. So my last words, ctlaltdefeat - Scam artist.

I sent two (2) PMs with a space of a few days between them. This whole board category is intended as a forum for "public complaining".

The email that is currently tied to the account is [email protected], which I created many years ago. I do not know if the hacker even changed the email registered to the account or not, but the fact of the matter is that if the email were not under my control in the first place I would not have been able to be writing this to you in the first place.

You should consider yourself lucky ending up with just a neutral after this situation. Badgering KWH with PMs and complaining publicly is unlikely to improve your position.

You still haven't explained how you were able to regain access to the account despite the profile e-mail address having been changed multiple times since the alleged hack.

Interesting to see that KWH, a "legendary" member of this site, has retained his trust rating on my account stating that it's bought/sold, despite the fact that the reference for the rating is this very thread which shows that I have regained control over my hacked account (as well as several unanswered PMs to him) 

i buy and sell
its first time someone reported my account was hacked

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ebruwifxnx-117260

Wouldn't be the first time you've sold a hacked account?

Right. How convenient.

I get a lot of PMs in my inbox so i delete msg older then 1 month
my email address for this account is same i use for all accounts i buy & sell
[email protected]

How about some names and dates. Who did you buy the account from and when? Even if you don't have PMs you should have notification e-mails or something, not to mention that deleting 3 months old PMs doesn't make any sense, too convenient for an excuse.

are you stupid?
there are thousands of other users also online so they all are controlled by me
when i am offline i control other thousands of account that are offline when i am offline

you are just a troll nothing else

first time , actseller said to don't want to share about from whom he bought when i ask.




Second time i ask actseller once again, and he say different reason by saying he dont have message in his inbox older than march



also many times i found both actseller and ctlaltdefeat online together and without post anything, just online together. is it accidentally?really? it makes me suspicious that actseller=ctlaltdefeat , but well just so far my proof


is this accidentally too? offline together when i pm them & online together too at a time.

Okay case abandoned,  the winner are hacker?  Actseller?  Or ctlaltdefeat  itself?

One more question to cltaltdefeat,

Why are you suddenly interested back in bitcointalk.org forum after lost access?
And how about story you get the account back? , have you tried recover account via email when you lost the account for the first time?

I still doubt

From who? Can you mention seller profile link? He might the hacker who stole ctlaltdefeat account and deserve a neg trust for selling hacked account, if you can't prove it we can assume that you are the thief .

No, I dont feel Im blamed. I think a refund is in order though and Im fine covering 50% of it. As you say you already lost enough as it is even if you get a full refund.

i bought this account in january
checked it on http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/ before buying like i do with all my accounts but no bitcoin address was found to i bought it without signed message , i checked my inbox but i don't have old messages from january bcoz i clean my inbox regular

i can compensate

Dissapointed to ActSeller who can't reveal where is he get the account

I can't blame you shorena I only can blame the hacker and a liar , indeed I got loss. Time to post from 120 to 440+ (half of it weren't in paid sig) , wasted money to bought hacked account etc.

Now Waiting for actseller clarification......

Looking at the post history it would seem that the "real" ctlaltdefeat stopped posting December 19, 2015 and then the new owner started posting February 1, 2016.

Password changes for ctlaltdefeat:

January 11, 2016 - account gets hacked?
January 25, 2016 (three times) - likely when ActSeller acquires the account
January 31, 2016 - ActSeller sells the account to Aleister Crowley
April 7, 2016 - ctlaltdefeat takes the account back via e-mail reset

ActSeller could provide more details about this, e.g. dates, any other users involved in the trade.

This post:


Edit: same as the link Aleister Crowley posted above.

Its still possible that the original owner sold the account to ActSeller. Be that as it may I think a refund is in order. I will cover 50% of the paid price since - as Quickseller pointed out - I could possibly have prevented this by changing the mail address myself. Im not entirely sure this is true, as Im sure ActSeller changed the mail. Let me know an address where you want the BTC, PM me if you want to keep it private.

verified.

so far the negative trust should belong to this user https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/actseller-714774 actseller who sold the account to me.

edit : here the link to your posted transaction https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5031046

verified using bitcoin core

Thanks a lot, this is indeed mine! Signed below. Where did you find a reference to this address, so that I may show this to the users of this site that have given me negative trust?

fixed, thanks!


i was in xotika signature campaign, so you already knew your account were stolen, keep posting and you do nothing?        

edit : i thought you are in urgent need too sometime   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8850473


he said he is no related to [email protected] but [email protected] , i am curious the truth ctlaltdefeat account was reset from which email? if there is a way to know it.


i would trust 99% to anyone who can sign message from this address 1METnz1Gvcz1Ce1D29SBZAtE9cok5cHEy8 , that he is the original owner of ctlaltdefeat account, and let's see who's a bad guy here.

Is this yours?

https://blockchain.info/address/1METnz1Gvcz1Ce1D29SBZAtE9cok5cHEy8

everyone can see its hacker

how it is possible, i bought account from someone and changed email to [email protected]
Aleister Crowley bought account from me and he changed the email

there are almost 0% chances new buyer will change email address that the hacker is claiming as his

there are 2 possibilities

1 = that [email protected] account wasn't registered, someone registered it and reset the password
2 = if it was registered then owner of [email protected] saw emails from bitcointalk to his inbox and reset the password

ctlaltdefeat do you have any proof

I don't live on the forum. My posting from the point of creation of my account in 2013 up until the beginning of the year has been fairly sporadic.

In fact, if posting on this forum was, for some inexplicable reason, a scarce resource, I wouldn't hesitate to give my posting rights to someone who desperately needed it.
Especially to this fellow who has an urgent need to advertise signatures for shoddy bitcoin porn websites.

By the way, I hope everyone reading this is well aware that signing a message right now with a PGP key and a bitcoin address that have absolutely no relation to me or this account, servers absolutely no purpose and is in fact meaningless.


That's the thing: I haven't posted any bitcoin address, ever.
If needed, my post history pre-hacking shows lots of posts regarding various sportsbooks, for example Fairlay. I can prove I have the same user on Fairlay, if need be.

I can commend you on your choice of unique and complex password (I use a password manager-generated password and 2FA auth for sites that really matter to me), but I rather doubt that someone bruteforced my password for this site.

I'd suggest to fix the date (9/4 is ambiguous) and provide a link to the staked post.

With a Bitcoin address that you had previously staked or otherwise posted.

How to:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-sign-a-message-990345



Yes, I'm a total noob but still capable of choosing a unique and sufficiently complex password.

@ctlaltdefeat
how could you reset via email?
the account was belong to me in 31 january till you reset the password in April 06.
thing that make me curious is, why you comeback here after lost account for couple months?
also why you did not open accussation like this when your account lost?

i need actseller confirmation about this, have pm'ed him but got nothing yet.


anyway i have updated op with my sign message.

I think You Probably don't know anything about Digital signature , anyways I leave it you to get explained from other members.
Can you let me know , if your account was not for sale then why you were building Potential , i mean why posting once or twice in 14 days interval?

The email [email protected] is mine, which is what the account is registered with. I don't know where you came up with [email protected]. Earlier on you mentioned [email protected]. Are you just making up email addresses?


A signed message with what key? What are you talking about?

Are you not familiar with the many instances of exposed and leak accounts, and the various incompentent/shoddy practices of theymos? You must be new here. I suggest you read up, maybe then you will "allow" me to assign blame to your precious forum.

Let's start with the basics. Can you post a signed message?

Stop blaming the forum, this has nothing to do with that.

so is this your email [email protected] ?

No, I definitely did not have access to the account for a few months and had a relative lack of interest in using this website during this time (as well as being busy).
It seems quite likely that my account was indeed hacked and sold. As I'm sure we're all aware, theymos and bitcointalk don't exactly have a pristine reputation when it comes to safeguarding from exploits and leaking user data.

Pretend to be more trusted than you are, i.e. scam.

Make some pennies in sig campaigns, i.e. spam.


So you're saying that ActSeller, Aleister Crowley, and possibly shorena are lying? And if they are why did you need to reset the password if the account had not been sold?

Call me stupid if ya like, whats the point in buying an account here? I mean, its free to start one right? What am I missing?

acctseller please confirm here and shorena if you could help me

here are my proof that i bought ctlaltdefeat account from acctseller

No, there's a single person (likely Russian from his post history on my account) claiming to have bought the account.
Meanwhile, I have access to the username "ctlaltdefeat" on a large number of sites for a long time now, as well as obviously having access to the email registered to the account in order to reset the password...

Interesting , that all people are claiming about the same.

I am the original owner of the account...

Thanks!
i've pm theymos with newest message.

i hope he could take time to read my pm.

I know account selling it allowed and all, but there's a reason for that. I just don't see theymos taking time out of his day to get involved in these type of sales.

That's the message you got with the purchase, right?

You can try sending a PM to theymos but I think he will require to sign a new message.

Doubt it will do any good. Your best chance of getting the account back would be making a deal with whoever has it now.

even i have sign message from quoted unedited staked address?

I don't think anyone can help at this point.

Sorry, looks like that account is gone for good unless whoever has it hands it over.

okay , i thought you would like to help.

Nothing. You basically gifted the account.

it was @bitcointalk.org yeah i am sure , and looks like between remember and forgot i change the email to [email protected] . think that i can create gmail account with [email protected] and unfortunately it's already taken. this maybe the reason password could recover via [email protected].

what can i do now ?

What was the e-mail address in the profile when you purchased the account? If it was the fake one @bitcointalk.org (the only semi-plausible reason that I can think of for not changing it) then the original owner could not have regained access to the account. So what was it?

i know how phising site work, so i am sure 100% never logging in from phising site.
i am sure the thief was the original owner as i stated above .
first post when the account get hacked are on fairlay thread which it was similar post on first 100 post ( frequently post on fairlay thread )
so i assume the thief was the original owner.

When you handle account trades like this, it will be very difficult to mediate a dispute.

You are risking that someone along the following happens:
-Buyer sends BTC into the escrow address
-Seller changes password to an account that matches the description of what is being sold
-Seller provides a username and what he claims to be a password to the account being sold to the buyer directly (and if applicable a signed message)
-Password on the account being sold is changed a second time (per the seclog)
-Buyer claims that the password he was provided does not work
You have no real way of knowing which party is telling the truth in this case

A better (at least IMO) escrow procedure for handling forum accounts would be as follows:
-Both parties agree to the terms of the trade
-Buyer sends BTC to escrow address
-Seller provides escrow the username and password (and signed message if applicable) of the account being sold
-Escrow changes the password, the email and removes the security question
-Escrow forwards the buyer the username and the changed password
-Escrow releases BTC to seller

It is usually best to have the terms of the trade laid out specifically and clearly, and to rely on the word of each party as little as possible so in the event of a dispute, it would be difficult to get questioned about possibly releasing BTC to the wrong party.

I never accessed the account. I prefer to only hold the funds, ActSeller did expect me to hold the account and hold the funds at the same time though. We did it my way this time and switched to ActSellers system for other trades. The point of me holding the account is to verify that it is like described. Its essentially seller protection to make sure the buyer has no reason to back off because of the name. Thus even in those cases where I accessed the account I did not check the mail, nor do I keep a record of it.

I do advise to change the password, mail address as well as the security question (or remove it). Its part of the default text for account trades. I always assumed the buyers would do these steps, as they are quite important to actually secure the account.

Did you ever check the email address the account was using? That would clear things up if it was indeed [email protected] as the seller wouldn't be able to reset password by email.

Is there anything I can do? I still have all PMs and the PGP signed agreement.

how is it going on here i need 1 account where to contact 

Are you sure you didn't enter the password on a fake page designed to look like bitcointalk.org?

If not, this is the risk of buying accounts. Expect it to keep happening even if you secure your account next time. Hacked accounts are sometimes given back or ruined with negative trust.

the email was @bitcointalk.org at the end how he would recover it using the e-mail?

it's your fault to not change email address to take it full control after you bought these account, i hope he would give back to you.

okay since ActSeller claim the account was not created by him since beginning , i will reveal all i have found so far.

1. first 100 post of ctlaltdefeat posts in fairlay thread see posts history here https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ctlaltdefeat-148231

2. first post when my account stolen was in fairlay thread, which i think the stolen was the original owner/ before me and actseller, see pic below


post history https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ctlaltdefeat-148231

3. since actseller won't tell me from who he bought the account , i am asky your opinions guys.

should actseller reveal from who he have bought the account? so i can make research to find who exactly the thief here?
or any suggestion?

please i need your help.

okay i'll keep Presumption of Innocence , but can you answer my question? is that account created by you since beginning?

that email address can't accessed by anyone not even me
so possibilities are you changed the email, it has been 2 and half months so maybe you forgot the email you added


I am ready for any kind of investigation, hope there is a way to check when email was changed so everyone know i didn't reset the password

it's weird, since i never change email in that account. how could the account reset via email?
i guess noody have an access to email except original owner and it's you.

all accusations are false
I sold the account back in january, email address used on this account was [email protected]
like I do with all my accounts, looks like user changed email and someone got access to the email address he used now he is claiming that I stolen his account back

is there anyway to check for account email that was changed after 31 january so we can know email was changed after purchasing the account, its not possible to reset password using @bitcointalk.org email address

it was my bad, did not noticed there is an email to recover

maybe theymos will help you but why did you not changed the email in your profile to avoid recovery

scammer profile link ActSeller  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=714774

i bought a full member potential hero in 31 january ago here is the bought and stolen account https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ctlaltdefeat-148231
password has been reset in april 06 2016 , yesterday . reset via email (nobody know the email except ActSeller itself so he reset password via email). my bad i was not change the email.

shorena was the escrow , he can confirm it. also i will prove my PM conversation during the transaction.

btw is there any way to get my account back?


my sign message