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Topic: 💬 ADAMANT Messenger — ETH/BTC/etc. in-chat payments, open source and secure - page 29. (Read 47205 times)

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Update of ADAMANT Messenger for iOS Application

Every release brings more conveniency and functionality. This one includes: System accounts, local messages and chatrooms; Many internal improvements; Login scene: better errors; Notifications: better app's badge number handling; Wallet scene: 'Get free tokens' row; Markdown support for system messages.
To install an update, just open TestFlight app. If you haven’t installed the messenger earlier, see https://adamant.im/adamant-messenger-for-ios/ and receive tokens for test https://adamant.im/free-adm-tokens/

More information about the release is in our GitHub: https://github.com/Adamant-im/Adamant-iOS/releases/tag/0.3.9 




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ADAMANT Messenger web application update

Most recently we added support for Ethereum, and now we’ve implemented option moving to chats from transactions and support for QR-codes.
Try it yourself: msg.adamant.im. Make sure you are using the latest version of the application (settings tab at the bottom). Clear your browser’s cache if this is not the case.

More information is in our GitHub:
https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-im/releases/tag/v1.1.1





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Not long ago it turned out that Facebook was scanning messages sent via its Messenger app. The company said that it scans messages only for abuse, however, we all remember that Google used to read personal emails for better ads personalization. Another popular Telegram messenger is experiencing pressure from authorities in different countries who would like to get an opportunity to read what users are writing in chats.
Seems that nowadays it is almost impossible to use any convenient communication without completely sacrificing privacy. Let’s talk about how this could be fixed: https://hackernoon.com/messenger-problem-why-secure-does-not-mean-private-and-how-to-fix-this-with-blockchain-e5467f410201

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ETH wallet in ADAMANT Messenger

Blockchain technology enters closely into our life making it more convenient! As we said earlier, ADAMANT team is working on transferring tokens (ADM, ETH, BTC, LSK, etc.) right in chats.
With the release 1.1.0 of the app an ETH-wallet is created automatically for each user — this is a step towards the more ambitious goal. We followed the path of greatest security by never storing or transferring private keys for these ETH-wallets over the network since their generation is based on ADAMANT passphrase. Roughly speaking, this works the same way as MyEtherWallet does; soon we will explain everything in detail.
Try it yourself: msg.adamant.im. Make sure you are using the latest version of the application (settings tab at the bottom). Clear your browser’s cache if this is not the case.

More information is in our GitHub:
 https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-im/releases/tag/v1.1.0






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ADAMANT Messenger app for Android is in process

Are you waiting for a native application for Android? Well, soon we will introduce an alpha version, or a working prototype. Watch the video: https://youtu.be/rf84WmEkJOY
In the meantime, use the PWA version — https://adamant.im/adamant-messenger-for-android/

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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
Update of ADAMANT Messenger for iOS Application

Every release brings more conveniency and functionality. This one includes: New error messages, Fixed transactions list, List of nodes to connect, Many internal improvements and fixes.
To install an update, just open TestFlight app. If you haven’t installed the messenger earlier, see https://adamant.im/adamant-messenger-for-ios/ and receive tokens for test https://adamant.im/free-adm-tokens/
More information about the release is in our GitHub: https://github.com/Adamant-im/Adamant-iOS/releases/tag/0.3.8

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Hey, sorry for being annoying, but what is Adamant's stance on metadata? For now, while the message itself is encrypted, it is very visible which addresses interact with each other. Are there plans to change this in the future?


We've thought about it, yes.

It could be possible to have a type of "super-stealth message", where it is visible that a message was sent, but not to whom.


It is one of alternatives.


The system would be quite simple: omit the receiving address completely. The receive will download all new blocks and just go through all transaction, trying to decrypt them. If they have the private key, they will be able to successfully decrypt the message addressed at them, if not, nothing happens.

This would solve quite a few problems:

- Someone watching traffic and the blockchain can only see that an address sent a message, but not to whom.

- Since the receiving party is forced to download complete blocks*, a spy cannot conclusively link sender and receiver together.

*Of course, this has it's holes as well. For example, if I watch an entity downloading blocks and they suddenly stop, I can safely assume that the message directed at them was in the last few blocks. This problem is amplified by Adamants extremely short block times, especially when few people are using the system.
One solution would be to have the clients always sync completely, no matter what, but this could still make correlations visible.
Another solution could be to have dedicated "super-stealth blocks", meaning, "super-stealth-messages" are collected over a certain time and are written in a block that occurs every few hours, or maybe even only once a day. After all, the bigger the pool of messages, the harder it is to link two entities. This solution would obviously hve the problem, that an attacker could fill the super-stealth blocks in a way, that all but a few messages in the block belong to them. The few remaining can be correlated to the receiver, if they only download up to a certain block height.

Still, I think decoupling theye parts, somewhat making the metadate as inconclusive as possible is important for a good privacy focussed messenger.


ADAMANT is the first one real blockchain messenger. So what we did it testes the concept.
All the sweets will be later.


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Hey, sorry for being annoying, but what is Adamant's stance on metadata? For now, while the message itself is encrypted, it is very visible which addresses interact with each other. Are there plans to change this in the future?

It could be possible to have a type of "super-stealth message", where it is visible that a message was sent, but not to whom.

The system would be quite simple: omit the receiving address completely. The receive will download all new blocks and just go through all transaction, trying to decrypt them. If they have the private key, they will be able to successfully decrypt the message addressed at them, if not, nothing happens.

This would solve quite a few problems:

- Someone watching traffic and the blockchain can only see that an address sent a message, but not to whom.

- Since the receiving party is forced to download complete blocks*, a spy cannot conclusively link sender and receiver together.

*Of course, this has it's holes as well. For example, if I watch an entity downloading blocks and they suddenly stop, I can safely assume that the message directed at them was in the last few blocks. This problem is amplified by Adamants extremely short block times, especially when few people are using the system.
One solution would be to have the clients always sync completely, no matter what, but this could still make correlations visible.
Another solution could be to have dedicated "super-stealth blocks", meaning, "super-stealth-messages" are collected over a certain time and are written in a block that occurs every few hours, or maybe even only once a day. After all, the bigger the pool of messages, the harder it is to link two entities. This solution would obviously hve the problem, that an attacker could fill the super-stealth blocks in a way, that all but a few messages in the block belong to them. The few remaining can be correlated to the receiver, if they only download up to a certain block height.

Still, I think decoupling theye parts, somewhat making the metadate as inconclusive as possible is important for a good privacy focussed messenger.


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That comparison against other product shows huge potential for this messaging platform if the promised tech is delivered in presented way. This the industry which still have huge space of growth for every project which ensures real privacy and security of data.
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We have updated the free tokens issuing mechanism for testing the ADAMANT Messenger, this was done to eliminate possible violations. Amount of free tokens was decreased from 0.49 ADM to 0.09 ADM. Only real users get tokens, not bots.
Get your ADM tokens for testing: adamant.im/free-adm-tokens

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Dear bounty campaign participants!

The rewarding tokens were sent to your wallets. Please, check your wallet balance and the record in the tables: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2626943. If you think there was a mistake, please write to [email protected]. You can also participate in another ADAMANT Messenger bounty campaign: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4311145.0.

Thank you for your support!

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As we see there are abusive exploitations, we are rebuilding it now.



Aaaah, yes, now we are getting somewhere. This is what I was getting at all along, why didn't you communicate this before? If you want people to trust you, don't beat around the bush.

Can you tell us more about this?

There were bad guys who force us to update sending free tokens system. Smiley
They used botnets to create accounts massively.
Not a problem, but we want Bounty tokens will spread around the users, not bots. THat's it.
Sorry for bad English.

Your english is fine Smiley
Thanks for confirming what I thought this was.

Look, I don't want to come over as demanding or condescending, but can I just say, if stuff like that is going on, it is a good idea to actively communicate it.

1.: Things like that look weird and if you don't say anything, people might suspect you are involved in some way.

2.: You want quite some money from "us", so you have an obligation to communicate to "us" what is going on.

3.: It actually makes you look good Smiley "Yeah, someone tried to attack us, but we stopped it, no big deal" --> Cool as fuck.

Might I just ask, when will you enable checking single addresses on the block explorer again? And why did you disable it in the first place?

Explorer is down now becouse of hoster provider, that is the reason you can't see fresh blocks.
Now we are deploying explorer with a mirror for more stability.
If you or someone wish to deploy own ADM explorer — welcome, all sources are available.


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(…)

As we see there are abusive exploitations, we are rebuilding it now.



Aaaah, yes, now we are getting somewhere. This is what I was getting at all along, why didn't you communicate this before? If you want people to trust you, don't beat around the bush.

Can you tell us more about this?

There were bad guys who force us to update sending free tokens system. Smiley
They used botnets to create accounts massively.
Not a problem, but we want Bounty tokens will spread around the users, not bots. THat's it.
Sorry for bad English.

Your english is fine Smiley
Thanks for confirming what I thought this was.

Look, I don't want to come over as demanding or condescending, but can I just say, if stuff like that is going on, it is a good idea to actively communicate it.

1.: Things like that look weird and if you don't say anything, people might suspect you are involved in some way.

2.: You want quite some money from "us", so you have an obligation to communicate to "us" what is going on.

3.: It actually makes you look good Smiley "Yeah, someone tried to attack us, but we stopped it, no big deal" --> Cool as fuck.

Might I just ask, when will you enable checking single addresses on the block explorer again? And why did you disable it in the first place?
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger

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As we see there are abusive exploitations, we are rebuilding it now.



Aaaah, yes, now we are getting somewhere. This is what I was getting at all along, why didn't you communicate this before? If you want people to trust you, don't beat around the bush.

Can you tell us more about this?

There were bad guys who force us to update sending free tokens system. Smiley
They used botnets to create accounts massively.
Not a problem, but we want Bounty tokens will spread around the users, not bots. THat's it.
Sorry for bad English.
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