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Topic: 💬 ADAMANT Messenger — ETH/BTC/etc. in-chat payments, open source and secure - page 66. (Read 47205 times)

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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
ADAMANT Messenger Turkish Whitepaper is available: https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-tr.pdf
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Can you please explain why we need another messenger ?

Why whatsapp, wechat, telegram, kick are not good ? Telegram and kick propose decentralized blockchain currency as well.
Different messengers, for different use cases. Personally i, don't like the idea of sharing eveything with unknown to me creators of different messengers. In the current state adamant have some flaws, but it is a prototype, and it will be better and better. I think that my data, must be mine. Governments seek your data, i can accept it, if they weren't in fact peoples with issues like other people have. But more to it, hundreds of companies also seek your data, to sell it, to monetize on it. Messenger creators, search engine trackers, everyone just want to sell you. "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product.".  I'm not telling that messengers you list are bad, they are good, great, i use many of them aside with adamant. Different instruments, for different purposes.

One silly question to consider -  How "Free Messenger" with no "Ads" and no "Store" can be profitable to pay costs of it's infrastructure?

Actually a good explanation.
ADAMANT will find its auditory.
tkf
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I am feeling really sorry if you see my posts that way, for I had no intention to bring yout project down, or screaming "don't need another app" from the top of my lung. All I intentioned is to point out what might be on readers mind that they're maybe too afraid to ask, or they're choose not to post either because they don't have an account here or they prefer posting is such a burdensome, and decide to leave their interest on this project because they can't find the info they seek, which is probably: what really differentiate you from other app? Why don't I just use this free app? What make adamant so special? And so on.

You have a table explaining this, I know, but I also know that there are a lot of questions that can't be answered by those tables. My question for instance. You are a paid service, and in my humble opinion, people would try to use alternatives, combining this free service plus that free method, trying this and that, before they decide (or learn) to try yours. My posts was intended to point out what's on customers mind, what they try to figure, and by your explanation, helps them to understand, or decide, or even compel them.

I actually still have some other questions to ask, another why-not-this-method-or-that-way posts, because after all, hey, I'm an ordinary user too, so probably what's on my mind is what on a lot of other people's mind too. But it's ok, now I am understand that this app is not for everybody.
Critics with arguments is always good. We understand that user always have choice, and we think that it must have it. Freedom is word that means a lot to us.
As i said, may be adamant is for paranoiacs, but if you have paranoia it doesn't mean that you are not watched.
We want to have right, to chose what to share with some unknown third parties and what not.  So this is one of the reasons we use adamant.
In some countries, what you right in chats with your friends, can be used to put you in prison, or make some offences to you.
You think that you are not needed by anyone, but after that they come for you. We want to protect such people. Give them choice.
We understand that users would like to try service first, so we credit each new wallet with bounty tokens, which  can be used to get acquainted with the messenger.


What is the function of this project in the future? ADAMANT is not the first one to send information, NXT has a similar function.
ADAMANT will be secure and anonymous messenger.
ADAMANT Business will be system for communications inside big organisation, with mutual settlements, document signing.

NXT has messaging function, but mainly it is decentralized app platform like ethereum. ADAMANT has other target auditory, and it is main purpose is communication. Also there is no 1000 byte limit.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole

Actually too many critics like "there are already many messengers, no one need new one!".
When Telegram appears, there were the same, "What?, another one, no one need it!".
People hate changes.
ADAMANT targets not everybody needs, but special category.


I am feeling really sorry if you see my posts that way, for I had no intention to bring yout project down, or screaming "don't need another app" from the top of my lung. All I intentioned is to point out what might be on readers mind that they're maybe too afraid to ask, or they're choose not to post either because they don't have an account here or they prefer posting is such a burdensome, and decide to leave their interest on this project because they can't find the info they seek, which is probably: what really differentiate you from other app? Why don't I just use this free app? What make adamant so special? And so on.

You have a table explaining this, I know, but I also know that there are a lot of questions that can't be answered by those tables. My question for instance. You are a paid service, and in my humble opinion, people would try to use alternatives, combining this free service plus that free method, trying this and that, before they decide (or learn) to try yours. My posts was intended to point out what's on customers mind, what they try to figure, and by your explanation, helps them to understand, or decide, or even compel them.

I actually still have some other questions to ask, another why-not-this-method-or-that-way posts, because after all, hey, I'm an ordinary user too, so probably what's on my mind is what on a lot of other people's mind too. But it's ok, now I am understand that this app is not for everybody.
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What is the function of this project in the future? ADAMANT is not the first one to send information, NXT has a similar function.
tkf
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Can you please explain why we need another messenger ?

Why whatsapp, wechat, telegram, kick are not good ? Telegram and kick propose decentralized blockchain currency as well.
Different messengers, for different use cases. Personally i, don't like the idea of sharing eveything with unknown to me creators of different messengers. In the current state adamant have some flaws, but it is a prototype, and it will be better and better. I think that my data, must be mine. Governments seek your data, i can accept it, if they weren't in fact peoples with issues like other people have. But more to it, hundreds of companies also seek your data, to sell it, to monetize on it. Messenger creators, search engine trackers, everyone just want to sell you. "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product.".  I'm not telling that messengers you list are bad, they are good, great, i use many of them aside with adamant. Different instruments, for different purposes.

One silly question to consider -  How "Free Messenger" with no "Ads" and no "Store" can be profitable to pay costs of it's infrastructure?
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Can you please explain why we need another messenger ?

Why whatsapp, wechat, telegram, kick are not good ? Telegram and kick propose decentralized blockchain currency as well.
member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 54
ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
ADAMANT Messenger Filipino Whitepaper is available: https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-fil.pdf
Join ADAMANT now!
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
Have you already tried the most anonymous and secure messenger? If not, follow https://msg.adamant.im/, create an account, and receive 0.49 ADM to try decentralized chats for free!
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
Be sure to invest right now. Today’s ADM price is 1 ADM = 0.001 ETH (1 000 ADM = 1 ETH). It will rise to 0.005 ETH at the end of pre-ICO. https://adamant.im/ico/
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Then, telegram + prepaid disposable number. You don't leave any trail of your ID, you get an access to telegram that can both be used from phone and pc.
+disposable phone Smiley If not you will provide telegram with your device id (with some interesting behaviour occuring). Notifications go to Google/Apple. Your location also can be sent.
You can't install anything on apple without having entering apple id, also most users will install telegram from google store. Two more identifications Smiley
It is forgetting about countries where you can't buy disposable number. Like Turkmenistan.


Actually too many critics like "there are already many messengers, no one need new one!".
When Telegram appears, there were the same, "What?, another one, no one need it!".
People hate changes.
ADAMANT targets not everybody needs, but special category.
tkf
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Then, telegram + prepaid disposable number. You don't leave any trail of your ID, you get an access to telegram that can both be used from phone and pc.
+disposable phone Smiley If not you will provide telegram with your device id (with some interesting behaviour occuring). Notifications go to Google/Apple. Your location also can be sent.
You can't install anything on apple without having entering apple id, also most users will install telegram from google store. Two more identifications Smiley
It is forgetting about countries where you can't buy disposable number. Like Turkmenistan.
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Activity: 1330
Merit: 54
ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
You dont want to block messages about black market and etc.?

No one can block anything.
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ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
I get the concept of using an anonymity selling point but after all is said and done isn't the strongest selling point of any project that truly wants to survive long term be anonymity? It's a good looking project and I'll like to encourage the devs to highlight extra strong points too

Thanks for the feedback.
Anonymity is not the only, but a strong part of the project.
Actually we have more highlights already — security, open source, decentralization, integrated payments, sign of documents.
Note, that are at stage of early product. Already working project.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Invest in the only and already active messenger on a blockchain. Today is the most profitable condition. We accept ETH, BTC, BCH, DASH, DOGE, LTC, XMR, NEM, ETC, ZEC, WAVES, LSK, REP, GNO, ICN, MCO, ANT, CVC, EOS, DNT, OMG, DCR. https://adamant.im/ico/

Or just download and run Bitmessage which has been around for years and doesn't cost you to send messages.

They don't have mobile app and updates.
And decetralized can't bee free.

Then, telegram + prepaid disposable number. You don't leave any trail of your ID, you get an access to telegram that can both be used from phone and pc.
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You dont want to block messages about black market and etc.?
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I get the concept of using an anonymity selling point but after all is said and done isn't the strongest selling point of any project that truly wants to survive long term be anonymity? It's a good looking project and I'll like to encourage the devs to highlight extra strong points too
member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 54
ADAMANT — the most secure and anonymous messenger
Invest in the only and already active messenger on a blockchain. Today is the most profitable condition. We accept ETH, BTC, BCH, DASH, DOGE, LTC, XMR, NEM, ETC, ZEC, WAVES, LSK, REP, GNO, ICN, MCO, ANT, CVC, EOS, DNT, OMG, DCR. https://adamant.im/ico/

Or just download and run Bitmessage which has been around for years and doesn't cost you to send messages.

They don't have mobile app and updates.
And decetralized can't bee free.
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