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Topic: Adding Merit was the most correct action against spam, let me explain why - page 2. (Read 440 times)

full member
Activity: 532
Merit: 132
To be honest, Few numbers of spammers will not give up easily from the bitcointalk forum and joining signature campaigns, They usually find some shitty solution to rank up by abusing the merit system. We should focus more to find them and make some investigations, Merit system is a very great way to find alt accounts and scammers, In addition, you can see which one is posting shit posts and high quality posts by simply looking for his merit points.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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Latest attempt at gaining merit...

Be a pajeet poster, see that lots of people with merit support the merit system.. scratch pajeet head, have bright idea, start threads praising the merit system in hope of getting merits...
hero member
Activity: 2450
Merit: 948
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Hello guys
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.
Merit was added because of sig spammers, right? People spam to rank up and join campaign and continue spam.
So currently most campaigns require high rank in order to participate. For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....
Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member, this is much time and will require nervous + it can become annoying for spammers too. So only good poster newbies will fight for this (at least I think so Cheesy).
And you may ask about current high rank members....
We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.
Now imagine, current lucky merit given spammers will be banned from campaigns + for new users ranking up will be almost impossible without good posts.
What we will get in a result?
Less spammers....
Just wanted to share my opinion....

Is English your native language? Did you make this thread to just merit? Why can't you type a full thought out paragraph instead of just combining sentences together
Is there anything that makes you to think that my intention while creating this thread was to get merits? Yes, I can type a full thought, just wanted to make it easier for others I guess..
I wanted to state my opinion in my own thread to attract others attention too. I think there is nothing wrong here.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3154
Hello guys
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.
Merit was added because of sig spammers, right? People spam to rank up and join campaign and continue spam.
So currently most campaigns require high rank in order to participate. For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....
Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member, this is much time and will require nervous + it can become annoying for spammers too. So only good poster newbies will fight for this (at least I think so Cheesy).
And you may ask about current high rank members....
We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.
Now imagine, current lucky merit given spammers will be banned from campaigns + for new users ranking up will be almost impossible without good posts.
What we will get in a result?
Less spammers....
Just wanted to share my opinion....

Merits is a good way to clean up this forum for scammers, and also a great way to improve the post quality. At the same time, I think this is way too hard to rank up now, for instance from hero member to legendary. But, in any case, is the system guilty of that. I mean: now the new system is implemented is our duty to make it works. When you look into your profile, in the merit section, you will read how important is to share smerit in order to give people the opportunity of ranking out (if deserved).
So this is our duty, as members, to make it works. The system is based on a great idea, at least from my point of view, but it is not going to be easy to people feel it as "fair".
As another user has mentioned, there are full rank members who maybe do not deserve it. I think the merit system is just pushing all of us, even legendary members, to be better writers, to share better contents, or, at least to try. So, as a system, this is brilliant.
Now, some ideas come to my mind when talking about how to make it works. One of them, that I've repeated a lot, is to make a "Merit Contest" about a nice topic, or about something difficult to achieve (a problem needing the solution, for instance). I've been seeing people offering merits only to newbies or jr. members, but such a thing is not too fair. Hero members, I repeat, are one of the most "affected" of all by the merit system. So, in my thoughts, I find much more useful for everybody can participate in any contest they want in order to rank out, no matter the rank they already have.

I haven't made "this contest" yet because I want first to have your opinion. What do you think it can be about? Do you have something you need some help with to be the "Contest-topic"?
Let's help this merit system and make it really works!
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 2
Hello guys
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.
Merit was added because of sig spammers, right? People spam to rank up and join campaign and continue spam.
So currently most campaigns require high rank in order to participate. For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....
Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member, this is much time and will require nervous + it can become annoying for spammers too. So only good poster newbies will fight for this (at least I think so Cheesy).
And you may ask about current high rank members....
We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.
Now imagine, current lucky merit given spammers will be banned from campaigns + for new users ranking up will be almost impossible without good posts.
What we will get in a result?
Less spammers....
Just wanted to share my opinion....

Another thread about the merit system that has nothing unique to add and full of assumptions. We already had SMAS list before the merit system for punishing those spammers and a lot of members were placed there.

Now regarding only genuine members being ready to wait and contribute for so long, it appears very doubtful to me. I think a lot of genuine members will leave as well. No one will wait an year or more to rank up. Now we will have more of the members who are interested in just discussions here and getting information about bitcoins and other alt coins.
full member
Activity: 672
Merit: 127
Yes but Junior members can’t wear signatures, so they can’t rank up to a level where they can earn money from campaigns.

Really? I guess you can check the Services board and see it for yourself.

Oh, and one more thing, there is also bounty campaigns at the Alltcoin Bounty Section where they even accept Newbie in a campaign. They don't even need to rank up to Jr. Member to earn money.
There are many ways to earn. Just drop by at the bounty section to explore more and earn tokens from social media campaign.

The facts are if a user deserves to rank up, then they will rank up by earning merit. Gaining activity was never a problem as you get 1 for every day of posting, similarly, if you post high quality, informative material, then it is quite possible gain 1 merit+ per day also, making no difference to the amount of time it takes to rank up. The likely case is, it will take longer for people to rank up, but it also ensures that the users in the higher tiers are likely to be of an increasingly high quality due to the filters they have to go through to rank up.

I actually think that certain high ranked users should have been knocked down to a lower level too, just because people were in before the new system was placed doesn't mean that they should continue to stay there. It shouldn't be about who got there first, it should be about who deserves it.
+1 on it. There are high rank spammers that continues their attack. Deserved posters must be leveled by the quality of post. But since merit system are implemented, i think admin will be seeing highrank members with a low merits earner by the end of implementing the merit system until the circulating merits would fade away or decay and putting them into SMAS will be a great idea.
sr. member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 300
Yes but Junior members can’t wear signatures, so they can’t rank up to a level where they can earn money from campaigns.

Really? I guess you can check the Services board and see it for yourself.

Oh, and one more thing, there is also bounty campaigns at the Alltcoin Bounty Section where they even accept Newbie in a campaign. They don't even need to rank up to Jr. Member to earn money.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 185
Hello guys
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.
Merit was added because of sig spammers, right? People spam to rank up and join campaign and continue spam.
So currently most campaigns require high rank in order to participate. For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....
Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member, this is much time and will require nervous + it can become annoying for spammers too. So only good poster newbies will fight for this (at least I think so Cheesy).
And you may ask about current high rank members....
We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.
Now imagine, current lucky merit given spammers will be banned from campaigns + for new users ranking up will be almost impossible without good posts.
What we will get in a result?
Less spammers....
Just wanted to share my opinion....

Is English your native language? Did you make this thread to just merit? Why can't you type a full thought out paragraph instead of just combining sentences together
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 508
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The facts are if a user deserves to rank up, then they will rank up by earning merit. Gaining activity was never a problem as you get 1 for every day of posting, similarly, if you post high quality, informative material, then it is quite possible gain 1 merit+ per day also, making no difference to the amount of time it takes to rank up. The likely case is, it will take longer for people to rank up, but it also ensures that the users in the higher tiers are likely to be of an increasingly high quality due to the filters they have to go through to rank up.

I actually think that certain high ranked users should have been knocked down to a lower level too, just because people were in before the new system was placed doesn't mean that they should continue to stay there. It shouldn't be about who got there first, it should be about who deserves it.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
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I have not seen the success of this system ...
because the fact that there are still many spamer yg berkeliayaran ...

The fact that you are not able to see something doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.

I also think it was a good way to deal with the spam problem. It’s not perfect but it can be improved. Newbies shiptosting one-liners doesn’t work any more:


Yes but Junior members can’t wear signatures, so they can’t rank up to a level where they can earn money from campaigns.
member
Activity: 199
Merit: 10
I have not seen the success of this system ...
because the fact that there are still many spamer yg berkeliayaran ...
either because they are less understanding or others
global moderator
Activity: 4046
Merit: 2732
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Merit ruins lives. Do you people have no compassion for shitposters?

#newbielivesmatter
sr. member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 300
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.

I am not certain if people are enjoying it since there are a lot of members that are not changing despite of the new system, they are just being themselves. But in terms of other members, because of this new system we identify great members that are not really popular before.

For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....

Newbies do not need Merit to rank up to Jr. Member. Please Read. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177

Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member

Unless they have some friends that can help them to rank up. Reading this, I think it is great to have a list of members that ranked up, we don't need to include the individual who ranked up to Members but the members that ranked up to Full Member and above. Though, I don't know how will we do this.

We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.

I think with the new System it will be the opposite. People will start to add some thought to their posts so that will mean that spammers will be decreasing and not increasing..
hero member
Activity: 2450
Merit: 948
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Hello guys
As I see some people hates merit, some of them enjoys but usually people don't look further to see more positive sides.
Merit was added because of sig spammers, right? People spam to rank up and join campaign and continue spam.
So currently most campaigns require high rank in order to participate. For newbies it's hard to rank up these days....
Now imagine, for spammers it will take maybe years to become SR member, this is much time and will require nervous + it can become annoying for spammers too. So only good poster newbies will fight for this (at least I think so Cheesy).
And you may ask about current high rank members....
We have SMAS list which grows and grows, so current spammers will be included in this list in future.
Now imagine, current lucky merit given spammers will be banned from campaigns + for new users ranking up will be almost impossible without good posts.
What we will get in a result?
Less spammers....
Just wanted to share my opinion....
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