Topic: Addition of more forum boards/sections and modifications. Any need currently? (Read 422 times)

I will 100 times disagree with removing the merit system because it is working and not only that, it saves time and stress when trying to fine quality poster in the forum, it helps even the managers who run campaigns and despite the fact they need to go through an applicant profile to ascertain their post quality, but I believe they pay more attention to user with the highest number of merits in the last 120 days and in that way it reduces the stress and time to find good posters.

I proposed, a while ago, a board dedicated to historic and educational topics. Some users agreed with my proposal, while others made other suggestions (either make more sticky topics or they considered the topics listed by me are placed in the right board already). However, I still have this idea in mind, about a board which could host all these topics which are part of Bitcoin history or those which can educate users.

Other than that, I keep seeing requests for various local boards. I don't know the needs of the users speaking those languages but I belive that, in some cases, since they make such requests, a local board would help them more in developing a local community on the forum. As a Romanian I am more than happy to know that Romanians have a local board, which is also pretty well structured, containing sub-boards for Marketplace, Important Announcements, Mining, Tutorials, Altcoins, Press, Offtopic and Welcome. Perhaps it's not the most complex local board from the forum but it suits very well the needs of Romanian users.

What I'm trying to say is that I understand the feeling of those which want to have a local board for their language and I hope that in the future we'll see more local boards on the forum.

I personally believe that there is no need for new boards to sections, and I also think that there isn't any need to modify any boards or sections of the forum. But, I still that there is need for a few local boards because the members from a particular country and speaking of a particular language would love to have their own boards.

The local boards for those countries can be helpful because members from those countries will try to contribute their share on those boards by making those active, and if an advertiser want to target a particular region for their marketing then there won't be any problem for those. I also think that the users from those regions would interact far better in their local boards and they will be able to convince more members to join the community.

I agree merit system must be in because it works.

Excuse me but not all long posts are quality.

I agree that one-line posts are mostly zero-value but not all of them are zero-value. About long posts, not all of them are better in quality. It can be plagiarized posts, AI posts or long posts without good ideas inside. The posters only expand their posts to disguise their shitposts.

There is nothing that's going to incentivize anyone to be more active than they already are or that will attract new members like a mechanism by which members are paid to post.  Nothing.  I've visited various altcoin forums, ones whose communities are fairly large and passionate, yet most of the discussions die off after just a few posts and by comparison bitcointalk is a beehive so buzzing with activity that the queen bee got trampled to death long ago and all the worker bees are high on crack.

Plus why exactly would we need any growth on the forum?  Bitcointalk isn't a business, and if there were no sig campaigns the activity and quality of discussions being had would just be whatever it's going to be.

HERESY!!!, you absolute LUNATIC!!!!

I'm only 1/8th joking with that--we registered only a few months apart, and I know you saw exactly what I saw in the years leading up to the merit system.  Don't you remember how this forum was being overrun with shitposters, account farmers, spammers, and spit-dribbling retards?  That glorious day the merit system came down from the heavens....it felt like the gorilla gang bang in progress had a cannon fired at it, and even though ducking was a must to avoid the shit spray you could tell that things were going to get better.

And they did.  Less activity maybe, but way fewer one-line, zero-value posts.

In my opinion that is a terrible idea. Removing the merit system means rewarding users with higher ranks for simply making posts, not caring if those posts were actually helpful to anyone who read them.
This will give us more activity quite alright but it will be all spam and eventually the better users will quit the forum since all the boards will get overrun.

Any sort of incentive to get users to remain active will only attract spammers. The most the admins can do is to create a forum that members will want to be on and moderate it effectively.

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If there was a user script that can be used, I will be curious to see how many new Legendary/Hero/Senior members we get if merits were no longer a factor to rank.

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We already have all the required boards/sections. What we need is more activities on some of these sections.
I get a feeling that this forum is not as active now as it used to be.
We need some better incentives to make members active besides signature campaigns.
In my personal opinion, we need to remove the merit system now and go back to old system where users rank increases with forum posting and time spent on forum.

I think we are still making the same sense, there is no different between what I said to what you have explained here,
community is large enough to accommodate all manner of post, it just depends on the angle you want to post to suit what you are saying very well.

I support the idea of adding such a board, and wouldn't mind seeing it. However, I don't think it would have a lot of traffic. The cybersecurity element sounds more appealing than the privacy discussions. Most beginners don't consider privacy essential. If they did, there wouldn't be so many people using centralized exchanges, doing KYC everywhere, and sharing their private data all over the place. When I think of privacy, I can imagine no more than 10-15 people I see regularly in the technical discussions who could share useful content in a new board like that.

I completely agree with that and not every request to add a new board has to be approved by an admin. We've had a few requests about new boards in the past year (I was too lazy to find the thread), but the admin didn't grant those requests considering it's still possible to discuss on altcoin boards or other general board.

I don't know how many new board have been added in the last year, but I still remember Nigeria was one of the newest for local board and also the addition and adjustment of sub boards for Indonesian local board.

There are many boards we are aware of because we can view them all but if we can't understand like local boards what's the fun of accessing it all? And for each new discussion we don't need to have a separate board as these can be done in general boards like economic board or if some general topics to be discussed genuinely we have serious discussion board in which newbies can't post to avoid spams so it's all good upto the point.If we have lot of particular discussion and community demand then admin can look into it like latest we have Nigeria local board but the struggle for it and need was real.

If you watch very carefully you will understand that forum is extremely large and believe me or not, there are some board in this forum you have never explored since you join the platform. This forum contain every single part of the world happening, that is to say; whatever thing you need to do and post the forum has it all what you need to do is to devote your time and read across the boards to know where every post belong and should be. Sometimes why we often request for additional board is not knowing where to post our topics but whenever you bring your mind down you would understand each and every sections to make and create your post. Btw if there is any need Theymos himself will personally create the subforum.

Sadly, nothing has changed. There have been discussions about new forum software, improved design, new features and so on and there is still no change but adding of the board is a little different case to my mind. If theymos has time to make some jokes on forum on 1 April, then I think he will find time to create a new board on this forum with a few clicks.
I think we can push him, it won't take him a lot of time to let this happen. The more we ask it, the higher the chances.

Bitcointalk is a comprehensive forum about bitcoin and other cryptos because almost every topic about the space is discussed on this platform. But cyberspace is becoming insecure every day because scammers and hackers are coming up with new inventions of how to fraudulently steal from people. It will not be a bad idea to create a cybersecurity board where members will discuss issues that will help educate them on this important issue.

There has also been an increase in the use of artificial intelligence in almost all sectors of the world. So many topics on how AI affects the crypto space have been a major course of discussion. Creating a board to discuss issues on artificial intelligence as it affects the crypto industry and the forum is my humble suggestion.

I've tried to figure out if the supposedly concerns on Cyber security could fit in with in the reputation or scam and accusation board but, theyevdont quite fit as,
Your neither reporting a scam or describing how one is done but rather focused on exposing schemes or how to stay secured in the Cyber space.

Having it all packed in a board could narrow things down and make information in a course readily available or easily identifiable.
It dint feel like a good idea at first but at the time, it feels like something to reminisce over as this isn't a typical beginners and help board post.

Modifications to the forum is something that don't come around every day as its notkways a good idea to play about with the forum software over any little upgrade. If the need for a new board is one that can't be avoided, we would see one.

That's kind of sad I must say, if it is actually so. I have some experience as a former administrator of a small niche forum and in fact it works best when admins are of the benevolent dictator kind, otherwise you drown in requests. A forum of this size and user base is something completely different, especially when you have a diverse user base.

But from time to time as an admin you have to listen to your users. I guess there's too much to listen to and that's sad again.

You're right. At the moment, this topic is very urgent and necessary. But we can look at the date when the proposal to create a topic about security and privacy was put forward. Has anything changed since then?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/discussion-cybersecurity-and-privacy-board-poll-request-v1-5434404

I think, OP, creating your thread is pointless. Since no one will listen, you probably need to have some kind of global event to create new boards, and until it happens, all words are just words.

Personally, the forum boards are enough for anyone to have a good time with. I am not up to a year in this forum and I haven't visited so many boards and sub boards because I only go to the boards of my interest. I planned that after my one year on this forum, I will start visiting those boards that I have never visited in other to know what topics are discussed there and also have knowledge on those topics. What am trying to say is that if a new board is created it might stay idle someday and becomes irrelevant. Only local boards can be considered. The admin is the best to decide on this topic.

He is just putting up some suggestions and there's nothing wrong in it while admins would look after request regarding new boards and if they find suitable they will create it.We have lot of members asking for different new boards and sub boards but it depends on how much active the discussions are and traffic in them for creating new ones.

You have not added the link to the post in url tags so edit the post so it's visible and redirect to that particular post.But I think @theymos has more important requests pending before he move to this story board.

Some time ago the admin had approved our request to add and modify some board in my local board, it was obviously because we needed it and had been waiting quite a while for it to be approved. So about adding and modifying specific boards, then I guess you can also make a request and wait for the admin to approve it.

I agree some requests shouldn't be approved especially if you expect an admin to add a new board for something that only lasts as long as the hype. Additions should be adjusted based on need, not just because the hype which won't last long.

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At least that threads like that could be moved there by moderation. I meant it in a joking tone, and I don't think it's a pressing need for the forum, but I think it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was created.">I commented yesterday, I miss in the forum a board, or better a sub-board, of personal stories related to Bitcoin to collect all those stories we see in the forum about how cool Bitcoin is and how it has changed my life or the life of my friends/family/dog.

At least that threads like that could be moved there by moderation. I meant it in a joking tone, and I don't think it's a pressing need for the forum, but I think it wouldn't be a bad thing if it was created.

Local board can not just be given. People requesting for it should work hard to get it. To have a local board, the people in the country posting on this forum must be very active on the local thread. If they have certain number of activity daily, the admin will give them local board. It is not up to a year that Nigeria was given a local board when their local thread was very active. As Nigerians convince admin, other people that needs local board should convince the admin by making their local board active with more posters and number of posts.

If the moderators are not doing their work properly on local board, you can bring evidence and the need for a moderator on the local board. If you do not have a moderator and you need more boards on your local board, you can ask for the board from admin. If topics that should belong to another child board is discussed more on local board, ask for the creation of the child board.

New boards can easily be created, but unless there are ongoing discussions about them, they will either end up being dead sections or turning into spam.

in order for the discussion to be good and ongoing you need a compelling reason or good software, let's take the Lightning Network as a hot topic the number of topics during the last 120 days is less than 200 'Guess numbers' and every week there is an average of 20 topics that are created. Even if this board is created, it will slowly die with time.

I agree with you that some of the current boards 'Project Development, Economics, Beginners & Help' need either new mods or to amend their definition.

I'll stop you right there because things hardly get added when suggested on the forum, the forum needs some modification but the administration aren't doing things fast to solved this complaints and suggestions. We need local boards and I think that's the most important boards that should be added to the forum because anything you think about can fit under an already exiting boards. For those that'll be suggesting anything related to altcoins like NFT, Metaverse etc, we have the altcoins boards that should cover all the discussion relating to altcoins.

In addition to local boards we need local moderator that'll help the newly created boards to function properly, I applaud the globally moderators because they're doing a good job but sometimes due to the limitations of their language and them not been able to understand the language been discussed on the local board, decision aren't handled on time or at all. Alots of volunteers will be willing to handle the moderation jobs for the forum so the.admins should think about screening them and allow them to help keep the forum intact.

Making more boards, sub-boards or even renaming existing boards don’t seem to be of much essence to me.

For what by the way?
To accommodate more and more spams?

Like I said, it isn’t a necessity as most of the boards we have here have proved themselves broad enough to be well accommodative and there are still a lot of users here that haven’t taken the time to visit every sub-board that exists on the forum. That’s how broad the forum is!

We can’t go about creating boards for every innovation that occurs in the crypto space.
I’ll say, let’s work with what we’ve got and if you take a close look at it, you just might find the right board to accommodate just anything you hope to discuss about.

It's imperative to add more sub- boards to the forum,..but you're not to decide that as well. I'm in concordance to what the first poster said; it's dawn on Theymos to decide if it's really necessary to create those sub-boards.
If you can look at it from a good perspective, you'll realize that these boards would only end up making the whole forum too cumbersome to search within....and it's also likely to bear the same topics as every other boards we've got, so what's the point?... BTW, most of the boards we've got already can as well - be suitable to post topics on cyber insecurities as y'all mentioned.
P/s: it's fine to always make suggestions,.. didn't dispute that.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Adding a "Cybersecurity and Privacy" board to the forum sounds like a good idea! We could have discussions about the latest threats, exchange helpful tips and resources, and ask questions to learn from one another. I cannot think of any downsides to this proposal.

The forum gets much less traffic than in the past and there are fewer threads opened every day. There is no need to add new boards right now. In fact some of the existing ones can even be archived due to inactivity. In order to open a new board, a large part of the existing board should be filled with topics about considered section. Otherwise, there is no need to open a new board.

I believe the existing sections are well-organized in the sense that they cover practically everything a forum user requires. Almost all life patterns, as well as social and economic factors, have been covered in the sections.

I additionally don't believe there is a need for additional subsections because some of us here have yet to go around the forum because we have no business with other sections; hence, creating more will be ineffective in my opinion.

You're absolutely correct mate am not a moderator neither an admin, but then if am not mistaking, from your recommendations in your  comment I won't be wrong to say we're on same page despite it's not in my place to request for such, of which it's not a request but a thought for discussion among interested forum members. And just maybe the moderators and admins might envision a need for a new kind of board based on those two you mentioned above and more other convincible ones that other members may  eventually recommend too.

Op you quote a thread that was created since April 22, 2010, 04:57:16 PM which Satoshi was probably active in the forum and asking admin to create more sections and boards in the forum. Op on your own do want to discuss anything that there is no board for the it? Op what is your main purpose of creating this thread? You have not said the truth. Op you don't have to ask us if we think to create any extra board or section you should tell us why you create this thread. If you are lack of topics to create then make comments for your campaign counting posts.
Op it is better your lock this thread. This your thread has nothing to contribute.

This looks as if theymos is asking or atleast one of the moderators.
If you feel there are boards that need to be created, you start by naming them and saying the reason(s) you think they need to be added to the forum. Not just asking a random question when you actually lack the power to enforce whichever suggestions that would arise.

I have seen people suggest security boards, nft board etc but it seems theymos is unwilling to add more board to this old software. That being said, the forum is fine and more boards are not needed unless when a particular local thread is worth to be granted a board, it will be done by the admins.

A Bengali local board is an urgent and should be the top priority.
Are you an alt of theymos and trying to figure out secretly what is necessary and what isn't. Let me know when Bengali board will be added sir.

If you could remember well that the purpose for the creation of this platform is for bitcoin discussion and i think the most important aspect of it has already been covered enough through various boards created for bitcoin discussions, creating an additional board (s) makes no difference when there's no need arising for such and we couldn't give more priority to other discussions than the needs to maintain the most important aspects of discussion here which is still all about bitcoin, making an additional boards could encourage spamming and creates avenue for trolling, from what i could see, there's no need for creating any additional board.

We definitely need Cyber Security board with some child boards. At the moment we can compensate them by opening threads where we will have discussion about different topics, like the one I have about VPNs but board would be a better choice. There are a lot of things to discuss about, including Operational Systems, software and hardware backdoors, VPNs, Tor Network, account security, how to protect from malware attacks and so on.

At the moment I can't think of anything other than Cyber Security board.

No wonder forum has gain more traffic and it will gain even more but i think addition of more categories is not that easy like our local board has increased its numbers of users. They are active too throughout the month. We even share our monthly stats from we can easily check the activity our local members are doing here.

But still after putting a request we are unable to get our own board. We are still a thread or you can say a topic. The point is, i just wanted to say the whole thing of adding new sections is not up to us this is upto the moderators like theymos etc.

I personally don't think there is any board missing that I would love to see, as I can see everything perfectly the way it is, and I interact on boards that I find interesting. If there is any need for any board to be considered, then I believe there will be a more recognized way of doing that, maybe by creating a request topic like the ones that have been mentioned by _act_, but those are just requests; it's when the Administration finds it interesting that it could be given consideration.
 
So if there is any board that you think is missing on the forum, you can make your suggestions and requests and hope for some positive outcome, which everyone's opinion must not be in your favor.

You are not an admin, you do not need to ask for anything like this. I am expecting admin to request for something like this, not a member.

We have many boards on the forum already but if we need more boards, these are the most important two:

Request: "Cybersecurity and Privacy" board + Poll

and

Lightning network board.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lightning-network-board-5151200
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-all-lightning-network-threads-in-one-place-5345664

gradually through the years the forum has grown and developed with more and more sections and boards meeting up with trending demands for discuss.
Do you think or feel any need that there are  sections and boards that  are currently lacking in the forum and  should be added. Or that certain general boards/section names should be modified based on current revolutionized changes over the years.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1000