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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

Why I started This Topic :
I was helping my nephew do his assignment about mental health when I stumbled an article about ADHD and gambling.

What is an ADHD

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Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a neurodevelopmental disorder that is generally characterized by inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity.

You can still live the fullest life even if you have ADHD it will not hinder your capacity to live the life that you want

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Some of the world’s greatest achievers with ADHD include Richard Branson, Bill Gates and Walt Disney

But if there's one thing that a person with ADHD cannot do, and that is to gamble.

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Why Someone with ADHD Should Avoid Gambling in All of its Forms
Proven Link Between ADHD and Gambling Disorder
One of the primary symptoms of ADHD is impulsivity. From a behavioral perspective, impulsivity is characterized by a number of actions that are inappropriate or even dangerous to a given situation. Those without impulse control tend to act quickly with no thought to consequences. It should therefore come as no surprise that ADHD and gambling are intrinsically linked. Lack of impulse control certainly sets the table for trouble when it comes to casino gaming and sports betting.

https://kindbridge.com/gambling/adhd-and-gambling/

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

Note: I will be locking this thread after 40 replies or 4 days to avoid the topic becoming redundant

I have ADHD and I can confirm that when I was gambling, I was laser-focused on the casino game, particularly to live blackjack, it made me feel happy and in the zone. This sounds like addicting but there is a truth in your thread's title, I didn't get addicted to gambling because I find everything boring. While it comes with its pros, the negative side is that I find it very hard to focus on my job, on my profession and my career but when it comes to addiction, self-control plays a huge role. You should understand that you have to stop if you lose self-control because in such cases, even having ADHD can't help you because gambling releases dopamine in your brain and makes you focused on the game with elevated mood.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on July 06, 2024, 11:00:10 AM

On the contrary, skill based games requires attention and serious concentration to be able to navigate the gambling process and come out successful so in this case those suffering from attention deficit have little chances of being successful here, hence the need they have to stay away.

but betting on sports without considering the outcome can be like betting on a luck-based game. Actually, anyone can make a bet without concentrating or studying the competing teams. Betting in any form of gambling is not complex but trying to win one is.

It is not the winning or losing in gambling that ADHD people have to avoid gambling. It is the nature of the problems of ADHD, the lack of control over their impulses may have a huge possibility of losing their control over their urge to gamble. That in turn can be developed to gambling addiction.

I wonder how can one detect a person who is suffering from ADHD any sign that tells a person is suffering from such illness? It would be good if the family can detect the problem early and monitor the patient's daily activities. It would be late and way harder to cure/guide if the family found out that one of their members is already addicted to gambling due to having ADHD.

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Depends on the severity I guess. If they are on high levels then it is not only gambling that they won't be able to do "properly" but everything. I also doubt they would be focused of gambling given that these people in such condition are having problem with attention retention. Haven't known one but I think it is safe to assume that things won't work well on his/her gambling journey if that's the case.

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 06, 2024, 12:55:03 PM

I agree people suffering from this disorder should avoid certain types of gambling activities, but I don't think they should avoid everything they enjoy in their life just because it could be "dangerous". Everything can be dangerous, life is dangerous actually. Live betting, and gambling games with instant outcomes are certainly not recommended for them I agree. But lotteries, and pre-match betting should be allowed to them IMO, because they don't provide instant rewards. It could even help them to overcome some of their symptoms, if they gamble responsibly I think.

Another reason why people living with conditions, should be away from gambling is because of stress with the possible outcome that may contribute to their condition (in most instances). Whether it is instant rewards or not, difficulties with coming out victorious is most likely a challenge to them. Much better of course is to have yourself be treated by professionals regarding certain drives like gambling.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

There have always been one golden rule for all gamblers across the globe, which is to gamble what you can always afford to lose, which in a single word can be sum up into "to gamble responsibly". So if by any chance I happen to have someone who has got "Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder" (ADHD) and also a gambler, the best advice I could give and best way to handle it will be to approach the person in a friendly manner, so as to elaborate to him the needs for responsible gambling, and why he must moderate his activity as someone who has got a Hyperactivity Disorder, of which if he fails to set clear boundaries, and practise relaxation, he will likely be doing himself more harm than good.

However, every disorder has solutions or control measures, and as such, as a concern individual, that will be my next step so as to make sure he effectively manage his/herself while gambling responsibly.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

You can still live the fullest life even if you have ADHD it will not hinder your capacity to live the life that you want

Some of the world’s greatest achievers with ADHD include Richard Branson, Bill Gates and Walt Disney[/quote] I haven't known any close person with any form of disorder but, I'd like to ask - Does anyone have an idea how Gates and Walt managed to make it that far in such creativity that requires utmost focus and attention with ADHD? ^{[I think I've learnt something new today - resilience.]}

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So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

Personally, I don't know anyone like that... I wouldn't also wanna bodyshame anyone for a little deficiency that's obviously not their fault; gambling is a game of choice.. if they decide to do it in a modest way, as long as they don't spend too much that it becomes a problem, i think ill just let 'em be.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

Why I started This Topic :
I was helping my nephew do his assignment about mental health when I stumbled an article about ADHD and gambling.

What is an ADHD

Quote

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a neurodevelopmental disorder that is generally characterized by inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity.

You can still live the fullest life even if you have ADHD it will not hinder your capacity to live the life that you want

Quote

Some of the world’s greatest achievers with ADHD include Richard Branson, Bill Gates and Walt Disney

But if there's one thing that a person with ADHD cannot do, and that is to gamble.

Quote

Why Someone with ADHD Should Avoid Gambling in All of its Forms
Proven Link Between ADHD and Gambling Disorder
One of the primary symptoms of ADHD is impulsivity. From a behavioral perspective, impulsivity is characterized by a number of actions that are inappropriate or even dangerous to a given situation. Those without impulse control tend to act quickly with no thought to consequences. It should therefore come as no surprise that ADHD and gambling are intrinsically linked. Lack of impulse control certainly sets the table for trouble when it comes to casino gaming and sports betting.

https://kindbridge.com/gambling/adhd-and-gambling/

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

Note: I will be locking this thread after 40 replies or 4 days to avoid the topic becoming redundant

It seems to me that gambling is far from the most important thing that such people should not do. At least from what I've read. For example, own a weapon, drive a car, etc. Maybe this disorder does not affect people’s behavior as much as you might think if you read its description? I don’t think that every person with a similar disorder gets into a casino and immediately goes all-in, and if he doesn’t win, he’ll take out a loan and try again.
If I knew someone with a similar disorder, I would not dissuade him from gambling, but on the contrary, I would watch with interest how he engages in it Grin

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ADHD is a pandemic nowadays. It seems everyone having issues to display some self control skills is immediately diagnosed with ADHD. I know it's a serious mental disorder, but why the intensity we find this disorder nowadays has grown so much compared to past decades and generations? I guess it's easier to use a disorder as "crutches" than taking responsability for their own acts.

It's easier and convenient to blame on the disorder, which is something out their control, than accepting the consequences for their acts. That is how the modern human being acts regards everything by rule. If I'm an addicted to gambling, it's because nature and biology have made me this way. People don't have the mindset to shape and mould their personalities in more functional ways. They just accept their flaws and want everyone around to do the same.

Then we have a whole society full of weak, pathetic and sick people addicted to drugs which theoretically keep their impulses under control, because they aren't interest in developing self-knowledge to find the solutions for their internal issues through natural means, which involve deep reflexions, thoughts and why not some pain.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

But if there's one thing that a person with ADHD cannot do, and that is to gamble.

There are many people who have these mental health condition but do not know and are active gamblers or individuals who are already considering to start gambling.
If many people know their mental health condition or the state of their mental health, I'm very sure that they would not want to gamble because health is something some people take very importantly but unfortunately many people are not aware of their mental health state.
If there was a way for people to know their mental health state, it could be a way to tackle addiction to gambling that is becoming more common.

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I agree that people who have mental disorders should not play gambling, especially having impulsivity that will make him continue to be triggered and triggered, and yes we know that in the end such people will definitely lose more money than what might be thought, chasing defeat, addiction and mental disorders because they do not believe that those with diseases such as can be assumed to be a little crazy, there is in my neighborhood someone who has a mental illness, not so severe but after gambling, and addiction then losing more money to excessive depression makes him like a crazy person today.

Maybe it has a different effect on that person even though the illness is the same, although I totally agree that people who have mental illnesses definitely have more severe adverse effects.

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I agree people suffering from this disorder should avoid certain types of gambling activities, but I don't think they should avoid everything they enjoy in their life just because it could be "dangerous". Everything can be dangerous, life is dangerous actually. Live betting, and gambling games with instant outcomes are certainly not recommended for them I agree. But lotteries, and pre-match betting should be allowed to them IMO, because they don't provide instant rewards. It could even help them to overcome some of their symptoms, if they gamble responsibly I think.

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ADHD is primarily neurodevelopmental, meaning that your brain actually functions in a different way. According to the American Psychiatric Association, ADHD meets certain criteria to be classified as a mental illness, but it's not often referred to as a disorder. I believe that such subjects are quite delicate and intricate matters, and we shouldn't be too quick to jump to conclusions, as we're not experts by any means, every case is different, and we cannot be so absolute and claim that someone with ADHD is unable to gamble.

Edit: @Zlantann, as I mentioned earlier, ADHD is neurological, thus, there's no "permanent" cure, but there is available medication that battles the symptoms.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

The first problem will be the ability to identify a gambler who is suffering from Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). This is because the symptoms of this disorder can also be exhibited by some people who are not suffering from the disorder. Nevertheless, if I observe and am convinced that someone close to me is suffering from ADHD, I will have to do more research on this topic and present this fact to him. In most cases, they will never accept that this disorder is hurting them so I will have to monitor their gambling activities and come up with facts that they need to quit gambling.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 06, 2024, 10:36:46 AM

So, the best is to advice them to quit gambling, but then, I have some personal questions though.
1. Can this be cured?
2. Is there a way to know who has this disorder aside from going for a test in the hospital, there are some physical symptoms to look out for? (sorry I've not gone through the article to see if this questions are addressed there, and this is because we are already discussing about the disorder here).

There are known permanent cures for this disorder but the symptoms can be managed or controlled. The management process can include counseling, medication, behavioral control classes, etc.

Apart from conducting a medical examination the only means is through observation. You just have to observe the person's behavior to ascertain if he is exhibiting some of the symptoms which is very difficult. You also conduct some informal tests to evaluate the person's behavior.

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People with mental health problems shouldn't come near gambling... maybe they can bet on sports if they like to watch it and have some fun, but all other gambling games have so many triggers for them. Maybe even flashing lights in some games can be stressful for them. People with weak hearts should also not gamble, or at least do it very cautiously.

Of course, this is on an individual level, everyone "bears" their illness in a different way, so those who are sick in any way should also know what they can and can't do.

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I do not really think your position is entirely correct because it all depends on the type of gambling activities involved. If it is luck based games, you don't need to be paying too much attention, just set the amount, bet and allow the computer decide your fate. There is no much analysis involved in such luck based games, everything is based entirely on luck and even without paying too much attention, which you described as ADHD, one can still make good winning.

On the contrary, skill based games requires attention and serious concentration to be able to navigate the gambling process and come out successful so in this case those suffering from attention deficit have little chances of being successful here, hence the need they have to stay away.

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ADHD is à serious mental illness even if it is something you can live with regardless, but in some cases it could be a barrier to complete many activities.

As you mentioned and the article mentioned, someone with ADHD won't be able to gamble properly because of the impulsivity deficit that the illness gives. Gambling sometimes also requires attention and concentration which can't be possible if you have ADHD, if you take random decisions without thinking of the consequences you're certainly not able to gamble.

I personally know few people with ADHD but not someone who gambles as far as I know. I think if an ADHD gambles it would be so obvious as we will notice his bank account going down. If I had a close person with ADHD and I knew he gambles I would definitely try to stop him, because it could be very harmful for them, I think that people with mental illnesses shouldn't be doing such activities like gambling unless they have someone who helps them with it.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

First, let me say thank you to you for bringing up such an important thing to discuss about mental health and gambling, it's actually my very first time coming across a mental health with such title.

And to answer your question, there is actually no two ways about this, if it happens that I come across a relative, a friend, or just any body with this a mental health like this, (there should be a way for me to prove it to them, since some of them might not even want to agree that they have it.) it is to tell them to stop gambling completely, if not for any thing, for their own good and the good of their finances, since as I understand it, persons with this disorder can use abnormal amounts of money to gamble without thinking of the possible problems they might get their self into if the money is lost - confirm if I am right.

So, the best is to advice them to quit gambling, but then, I have some personal questions though.
1. Can this be cured?
2. Is there a way to know who has this disorder aside from going for a test in the hospital, there are some physical symptoms to look out for? (sorry I've not gone through the article to see if this questions are addressed there, and this is because we are already discussing about the disorder here).

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This is a sensitive issue, so you don't tell a gambler who you know with ADHD that he cannot gamble because you read it on the internet; the family should be involved because the family is the first to know their family's disorder, if they do not know that he involve in gambling, you should make them aware of the risks in case they do not and advice them to consult to their physician.
People with disorders trust their family more than their acquaintances, so its better to involve the family.

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Mental health situations should best be dealt with by a mental health expert. ADHD is a spectrum all with different symptoms and it comes in different types for children and adults, to reach a decision one will need to know the exact medical history of the patient with special focus on their ability to control their inhibitions.
If after consultation it is necessary for them to quit gambling, there will also be steps suggested to reach that goal and not any random approach which the family decides to take.

Never make medical decisions off what you read on the Internet, there are lots of research available for different situations and permutations, so you should always seek proper medical advice on how to interpret and apply relevant medial knowledge

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They are capable of thinking and most likely they know what they are doing as well. So if normal people can think of quitting gambling, they too can do it. ADHD also is often mixed with other disorders and sometimes they are just focused only to one thing but can't focus on another. This is I believe still under the Autism spectrum and some of them are even savant.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 06, 2024, 09:45:47 AM

Why I started This Topic :
I was helping my nephew do his assignment about mental health when I stumbled an article about ADHD and gambling.

What is an ADHD

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Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a neurodevelopmental disorder that is generally characterized by inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity.

You can still live the fullest life even if you have ADHD it will not hinder your capacity to live the life that you want

Quote

Some of the world’s greatest achievers with ADHD include Richard Branson, Bill Gates and Walt Disney

But if there's one thing that a person with ADHD cannot do, and that is to gamble.

Quote

Why Someone with ADHD Should Avoid Gambling in All of its Forms
Proven Link Between ADHD and Gambling Disorder
One of the primary symptoms of ADHD is impulsivity. From a behavioral perspective, impulsivity is characterized by a number of actions that are inappropriate or even dangerous to a given situation. Those without impulse control tend to act quickly with no thought to consequences. It should therefore come as no surprise that ADHD and gambling are intrinsically linked. Lack of impulse control certainly sets the table for trouble when it comes to casino gaming and sports betting.

https://kindbridge.com/gambling/adhd-and-gambling/

So, if, after reading this article or any other article about ADHD and gambling, you know someone close to you who is gambling, how will you react? How will you approach them even if they tell you that they are not harming themselves with how they gamble?

Note: I will be locking this thread after 40 replies or 4 days to avoid the topic becoming redundant

Not really, its fine for people with ADHD to gamble and plenty of them so it responsibly. If someone is good with finance and/or assessing risk, then they may be able to easily control their playing habits because they know it can result in losing money. Some people choose to hide behind labels like this, even though everyone may have light forms of it and pretend that it is the root of their problems, however it is usually not. You can have ADHD and still practice self control, especially when playing these games are less than spontaneous. Most people with the extreme forms of it will often be on medication as well which can nullify the worst effects.

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