Topic: Admins, ban jollygood and scamvirus (Read 663 times)

Man, I have been doing that now, go look at it. Its also neutral. The current feedback is accurate however and until they realize that they should not blame out of the blue, it also stays like that until they realized what they did wrong (like mentioned in the other thread). It became more than just jollygood acting hasty (while his current feedback is still inaccurate), people defending him and having no clue about right/wrong and blaming me.

But yes I will lock both.

I don't see any negative tag on your profile at this moment. Both JollyGood and Scamvirus revised their tag into neutral. Neutral tag doesn't matter. You should know how the feedback system works. You also left some negative feedback to take revenge which is unethical. Review your given feedback and lock this thread and go on. It would be better for you and the community as well.

I did not make any mistake, you are victim blaming and I will tag you for that! If you understand that what you do is wrong, I will remove it.

If bitcointalk moderators just goes ahead to ban a user or users when another user asked for their ban, I believe that all the high ranked members of this forum would have all be banned permanently or will keep serving temporarily ban from one to another ..
This is because high ranked users are easily attacked by the lower ranks for whatever reason which I can't really understand or explain..

To OP, if you are angry with this users that maybe the tagged you, what you should do is correct your mistake(s), that is the reason for the tag, then contact them and plead to them to remove or change the negative tag to neutral, asking for their ban is a waste of time because they won't be banned, obviously.

Thank you for the first part. of your Post, regarding the second half, you should have stayed away.
The details I provided: they make false accusations, there you go. The evidence I can provide is the lack of evidence for their accusation. So if they have no proof they should stfu, if they are working on it, feel free to announce here and we will all wait longer for them to provide it.
Seems it is not against the forum guidelines to ban people for false accusations, thank you for pointing that out, that I learned from some of your colleagues too. I also learned therefore this whole forum is a muppet show, seeing that false accusations are allowed, while still putting red flags on sites and users (not saying they don't deserve it, read my words carefully)?
So maybe see it as a suggestion, to improve the quality of this forum even if it is not in your guidelines? I said things that proved the point I was making and changed to an accurate one (regarding rikafip), but if I call someone an idiot for being an idiot, man then you all need to grow up and become smarter and accept the truth (but that is very difficult).

You must provide further details as to why you think their account should be banned from the forum. Leaving you feedback does not necessarily result in a ban, whether the feedback is accurate or not. If a person is subject to forum bans, you must read the guidelines. Instead, when making irrational claims on a forum, you should provide sufficient proof to support them. If you verbally say something that forum users find offensive, you would be tagged.

Well, I personally would like to see making false accusations a bannable offence, I can't proof it (the could still be preparing their evidence for all I know), but neither can they proof the initial claim (so they should just refrain from accusing people until they have their evidence), it STARTS with them. However I realized in the meantime that ain't a possibility on this forum, although then I also see no reason for red flags etc, wrongly accusing people is really bad, same category as just scamming. Because of that strange ruling here it should be: give them as much negative trust for the idiots they are, in the hope that people actually understand the points I made. But even that is a big issue seeing how a lot of people don't see what is wrong with what they did. (but I guess that is an overall humanity problem)
I made more than enough the point that they can't just throw out accusations, but I can't help it if they (and a lot of other people) don't get that, so what else can I do? I also advice you to just look at what I did and what the conclusion of jollygood and scamvirus are, one not only tagging but also leaving negative feedback in the case of jollygood.

First of it all OP we dont have admins, we only have one which is Theymos, while concerning the ban, you're presenting it with a command tone which shouldn't be, you need yo present a clear evidence why they both needed to be banned, quite alright they tagged you but have you considered thousands of accounts or even millions on this forum that never experience any form of being tagged, i will advise you to rather consider your ways a d recheck yourself if you have been doing it the wrong way and expects a right result.

I don't mean to pick on JollyGood or scamvirus, but whether they have done something wrong or not is subjective.  Personally, if I came here and claimed I made a million dollars in tulip bulb futures, and one of them asked for proof I'd tell them to pound sand.  Who the hell are they to demand proof of any claim I make here?  And I certainly wouldn't expose an address to a bunch of busybodies where I received 10BTC.  

Was the claim damaging to anyone on this forum?  Did anyone with half a brain believe that the claim was anything but an exaggeration?  If the claim wasn't made in thread regarding 1xbit would have the OP been tagged?  Let's not forget that the OP made the outlandish claim in a post which was intended to complain about not receiving a withdrawal.  So instead of helping him resolve a potential scam we harass him for an exaggerated claim?

I also don't mean to defend the OP because this thread is nothing but a temper tantrum, and the OP is engaging in the same misuse of the trust system that he claims JollyGood and scamvirus are engaging in.

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@MrBrightside1
Grow a thicker skin, read LoyceV's guide on how to use the trust system, and then exclude those who's use of the trust system you find objectionable.

They made false accusations without proof, aint that something wrong? Clearly it ain't something wrong here (because that is the ideology of the forum), but man, the fact that you as a human being don't see this as wrong?

Overall I am not here to be your friend, I am here for justice. So that's why I am not mister nice guy, but I know I speak the truth.

jollygood and scamvirus have done nothing wrong, then the chances both of them of being banned are very small, I am not sure if the claims you made in your thread are true but you have to be honest with what jollygood marks, you have to prove you are a good person if you want to get your reputation back.

aint that also a bit the easy way? I mean, there have to be people who fight for the right thing no? And one of those right things is pointing people out for their stupid remarks/accusations.

Lock the topic and move on. You don't have to take everything guaranteed on the internet.

+100 (although they also can't accept the fact that they fall for a fallacy and have confirmation bias and in that way I care more for the general good, than my own reputation here/the drama, because it was because other people commented about it and I don't want to put them in a bad daylight)

You are just making your problem worst by creating this kind of drama about your trust. Your red trust received from Jollygood is clearly not right because you don’t have any obligation to prove your claim. I believe he just assume that time that you are 1xbit shiller since there’s a lot of paid shiller that time doing some vouch about 1xbit that we all know as scam.

Right now, You already prove that you are a real whale since you play huge amount on other Casino here and you can have support by proving it. You can fixed it in easy way if you just talk to Jollygood properly without any vendetta feelings for the previous conflict between you 2.

No one here is a sock puppet. They are just trying to help but you can’t accept the suggestion and criticism they made.

I agree, but in this case I got accused (jollygood made a nice negative feedback about it, being called a sock puppet, scamvirus saying the same that I am part of them, must be shilling whatever, without the negative feedback in his case) of something while there is no proof of me being part of their company or whatever (and I know that proof for that claim doesn't exist, because I am not part of them). And that is something that goes against my principles.

Well, I was here to read the posts, and I got the best entertainment for the day. You don't have to prove everything on the internet. But, If someone accuses you and shows some proof for his claims, You can prove them wrong if they are wrong.  . LOL. Direwolf, Who shares that information on the internet? I never knew Wolf's Penis could be bigger than an average human's.

It's now okay to do anything on the internet. There are no rules, nothing can stop them. All you need is a plan, a good plan to put yourself in a safe place and role the rest. Unfortunately we always forget once we all had a start from somewhere and if the whole thing was on us the way it is now before even we had a start then we were too gone long ago.

You are close.. She must have the deepest space 😉

So, it's now okay to tag people for exaggerating on the internet?

Well, I have a 12-inch penis and no, you're not getting proof. 

It ain't because you didn't leave me negative feedback, that I shouldn't call you out for your BS reasoning.

And yes it's very accurate now, every person that doesn't understand the fact that I have no obligation to proof (I mean I actually can't disproof his claim about me being a "sock puppet", because like I said, the wallet might be a company wallet), so nice world you want to live in.

@scamvirus can you please tell me where I LIED? I mean give it to me, I even now provided proof and you say I LIE? Based on what? My account?

You are barking at the wrong tree, I am not the one who left you the negative feedback, JollyGood did. And he is the only one that can remove it.


Accurate maybe according to you, but looking at the feedbacks you left so far, you are still using them inappropriately

Exactly, I didn't shill, I have no signature campaign. I came here because I had an issue. Could I still be this "sock puppet" yes, but does signing those things make any difference? NO
And like you do, just don't give me any feedback unless you can prove that I am actually that "sock puppet".


Regarding this, I didnt use a third party service or anything and I never will! But I hope people are smart enough to understand what I did. (but you have to look at the time of the message/post and the time of the transaction although it's also highly remarkable that after more than a yar that address became suddenly active while I became active here). But I repeat, I shouldn't be doing it and it even doesn't lead to anything, might as well be a company wallet, but with your practice how many innocents would end up in jail because of your "feeling".

Oh @Rikafip regarding your feedback, you don't get the point of it, not to mention your reference is no longer applicable because I changed it to an accurate feedback.

Yep, that was the first post made by MrBrightside1, that started all this mess. After that JollyGood asked him to provide some evidence that he is indeed received 10 BTC from 1xbit, and after he failed to sign the message, he tagged him few days later.

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@JollyGood did you have time to check if what he is saying correct?

This could be either way though, depending on the situation. If there is a scam site around and some newbie account came up and said that he managed to withdraw a sizeable amount out of it, obviously the first instinct from members would be show the proof or else it's just a shill, right?

I am one person who doesn't like 1xbit, but my negative feedback is mostly for those who advertise it knowing that it's a scam. With cases such as OP's, I don't just leave feedback anyhow.

I had to dig deep to find the post that lead to OP getting tagged.

Could this be it?


I want to draw my conclusions after knowing why exactly OP was tagged


You are right.

GUYS I PROVIDED PROOF THAT I AM THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!!! go look
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new


Why can the others not think like you (the accuser providing the evidence and not the accused, this is common practice IRL) But like I said above I now even provided it (while I still stay with my point that I shouldn't)

Sometimes it's better if the accuser brings enough proofs and then go for tag or anything they want. If anyone needs to prove anything then it should be the accuser not the person who was accused. I don't want to name anyone which will definitely bring the conversation back which I don't want it to be in discussion again.

The campaign manager accused his client was told that they should not hire him (the campaign manger) and it was told by another forum member.

In this case if you, as the another user (the one was accused) indeed did not do that then how would you prove that you did not do anything. But if you indeed did then here are no point for you to prove anything but since there will be a pressure to cover it, you can just act that you do not know anything. So what the community will do then? My guess is their history will be taken in consideration.

In OPs case since he/she does not have a history to judge, it's easy to miss-understand him perhaps.

I think you didn't get my point.

Let me rephrase it.
If someone tags you for something you believe is false, prove them wrong, and I can assure you some members will support you and perhaps tell that DT member to reverse their feedback since it doesn't seem right or they could even distrust him/her.

But if you go on overreacting and sending retaliatory feedback to anyone you feel disagreed with you, then most people are just going to back off and not even look into your case.

I did an alternative thing to prove it is my wallet I finally succumbed to all the critic. You can find it in the other thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new
I made a post about a transaction before it was confirmed on the chain.
(but I also think they are ignorant for just throwing out accusations, see the fallacy I posted, it's not because I didn't sign that it automatically is not my address)
Oh and for the record, first jollygood requested a transaction ID (which I provided) but then it was needs to sign. So again now, I provided proof that the address is mine, but do you think they will now believe that it is my address? For all I know they say I am now one of the company, and it's just a company address, so normal I have access to it. So there will never be 100% proof that it is mine, but they just can't throw out these bullshit reasonings.

I'd like to take @ScamViruS advice but just can't help posting how ignorant he is if he is using a custodial wallet he could just post that he cannot sign because he is using a custodial wallet there are otherways to verify that, if he is using a non-custodial wallet then he has no reason why he cannot sign the wallet.
All he has to do is sign the wallet the instruction is already given why make a lengthy discussion out of it.

It all originates from the following sentence:
If I sign the address then the address is mine.
I did not sign the address, but you guys jump making conclusions.
This is a fallacy and if you don't believe me.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Denying-the-Antecedent
So as you can see it's normal logic, but if you don't have the capacity to understand this, better go back to school idiots.

I think it's best to ignore this user. Better to focus elsewhere than reading such nonsense. No matter how much you try to convince him, he will think that everyone is giving him priority.

This nonsense argument of yours will not help to remove your tag. This should have been resolved by talking to the person who tagged you like a gentleman. But you got into arguments with everyone, so now no one cares about you. From now on I also ignore you, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

BOTH OF YOU IDIOTS SHOULD GO TO THE THREAD AND READ WHAT I SAID.
I have just proven that I have the ownership of the address. I announced an action by that address before it was confirmed on the blockchain, you can verify through time stamps.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new
ANd I remain with this: there is no need that I need to provide evidence but dealing with a bunch of monkeys like you I succumbed. If you call me arrogant fine, I am not shilling, I am not scamming. I know one other thing you guys are dumb!

I think It will be better I totally ignore you because I don't see any reason to reply here anymore.
Now I see why you were being tagged.

On his other thread, I ask him to sign the wallet where he was supposed to receive the 10 BTC from 1xbit because in the past we have seen how people shill this scam casino by posting that they received or won from 1xbit, people could not just believe that a casino with dubious reputation will send 10 BTC to one of their players, so failing to prove will result in getting you negative feedback.
Unfortunately, your wish will not be granted because you have a very poor reason, and sending negative feedback will not constitute banning, you have a lost cause on this one.

These are the people that can't read, same as you. I have never been dishonest, so he has no proof. The guy is a first class idiot. I changed all of my feedback to an accurate thing and added some.

These are the people who devote their time and efforts to make some personal research about members and their post over here, if they noticed you aren't honest it may warrants of giving bad feedback this doesn't mean they should get ban for no reason. And besides you should be the one to get ban if you may know, from your trust rating. jollygood is a reputable member who love digging into details about someone presentation to be either true or false. And if False then he will make it clear to you to show evidence of what you claimed of, If there is no clear evidence provided then he may leave a redtag on you.

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

Your profile is enough proof for this, there is no need to provide it separately. You are showing your behavior so far here and that proves you have a behavior problem. You are asking the admin to ban me, without any reason. If you continue your activities like this you may get yourself banned.

I think the admin should ban you, this will reduce the pollution of this forum. Because you are arguing with everyone by posting one after another. Everyone tried to understand you but you don't agree to understand anything, you keep on arguing.

No it ain't there is where you are wrong, I just mentioned it and what you do with it is yours, but you can't claim it is false without prove. I couldn't care less about those other people, I use everything that happens with them and I make the best decision I can based on al the info I get. But I am not making accusations that what they said is false or right.

To go in even more detail, as I recall it has been some time, the guy asked for the transaction DI, which I already provided, so that is the reason why I started calling him an idiot. Then it became I need to sign (btw I even succumbed to do sonething like that, go look I made an announcement of a transaction with that address before it was confirmed on the chain), so after all I even provided the evidence, but will it ever be enough?

You are the one who came here and claimed that 1xbit paid you 10 BTC, therefore burden of proof is on you. After you failed to do that, you got negative feedback.

People around here are especially sensitive when it comes to 1xbit because they are regularly scamming people and using paid shillers, so when a member like you with no reputation here says something like that, people will ask for proof.

Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof?
Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?

Even if you are not on DT (which you will probably never be if you continue leaving feedbacks similar to the one you left me) your feedbacks will be visible, but only under "Untrusted feedback". The only ones who will see that under "Trusted Feedbacks" are those who include you in their Trust list.



You should listen to your own advice. I tried to explain you how Trust system works around here, yet you behaved like a spoiled brat and left me that nonsense feedback. What you don't understand is that even though you are free to leave any feedback as you want, it will have some weight only if you are using that system correctly. Otherwise, everyone will just ignore it and will be worthless, like the one you left me.

I'll tell you the reason why I asked for it, it was because one site that now made a post about me, said that I maybe should ask for it to be removed, I coudn't care less about you guys (no offence), I'm a misanthrope in that regard. But from my pov, if a site makes something that mentions me and then there is the negative trust, then users won't like it. So I did it for their good. Disclaimer; I have no benefits from that site, there is no affiliation of any kind, I dont even know if they care that much that I hate this platform.

Nonetheless: the reason that trusted members are on vendetta's and suffering from confirmation bias, maybe means your whole trust system is garbage as is this platform if even after clear examples people don't understand the skill of arguing and providing evidence. Because acting childish? Are the people who not understand that I don't need to provide any evidence not the children? I only use it as a way to try to let you guys understand how wrong it is, but of course if the average guy here is incapable of understanding, says a lot of those guys (and the platform).
So maybe it is time for those initial whiners, who make the false claims to look into their own.
And I still await those users their coming to the light and I will remove my feedback, in the hope that they finally understand the point I make.

A little suggestion to OP. Just use your trust setting and put the people that you trust in the forum if your concern is just the negative trust. And use the distrust function “~” on user that you didn’t like judgement on using the trust system. You are not a regular forum user and I think that distrusting someone that you don’t like will give you a better forum experience rather than to deal with them and act childish.

There’s rules in the forum and maybe you should start reading the Meta and Beginners and Help sticky to guide you.

I quote you: "OP If I am not mistaken, then you are the person who speaks bad language to that member whenever any member says something against 1xbit."
Well here you are mistaken, I only acted against people whining and always saying the same, regarding individual cases of complaints I haven't said a word. So a false claim by you. Only the ones saying that I am a shill or that what I do is fake, only against them I react.


Ok, but that says enough about this platform? If your community has no integrity, then you are a disgrace to humanity.

OP, if you're calling a feedback left for you that you disagree with (or any disputed feedback) "false news" then you're watching way too much TV or mainstream media crap--and that's in addition to you creating a straw man argument.

And again, you've been here long enough to know that bitcointalk doesn't even ban scammers, so why the fuck do you think moderators or Theymos are going to get involved with making a judgement call on whether a feedback is rightly or wrongly given?  Do you know how many of them are given each day?  I don't, but I'm guessing the number is enormous, and there's no way in hell there's enough time or staff to handle disputes.

Just stop bitching.  Nobody is going to jump in here to support you, because we've all got problems and nobody likes whiners.

What evidence do you want to see? I did not make any accusation against you, I supported the accusations against 1xbit. Stop your lies, you won't get anything back with this argument. Instead of proving your claim you are wasting time on this bad argument.

Can those people prove me that what I said ain't real? (and yes the first feedback, there is proof, this whole conversation)
Regarding the second example: Please provide a 24/24 lifetime footage of you and I will remove the negative feedback?

Do you guys now actually see how ridiculous this is that you ask me to proof things? I DONT need to prove anything. (for the record I actually did an hour ago in the other tthread that it is my address, but I will never use any 3rd party or other thing, I send a specific amount to a specific address before the transactionw as confirmed on the chain).

So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way.

FACT: I get false accusations, they provide no proof and should be reprimanded for it. Stop turning things around.


Im reading that, but from what I can tell, it will still be visible right? Even if you lower the settings, a shit person can still give a feedback although its listed under the unaccurate one?


I ,ike your post, but that second is just the same kind of feedback that they require from me. Like I explained above, if they start seeing that I do not need to prove anything, then neither does Rikafip and I will remove it.

Bitcointalk doesn't decide what's right or wrong. Even you are allowed to post your name calling here:
Ignore from this account too

If you think they are going to be banned for that, then you are having the wildest of dreams

First sort out your mess before people can back you up or even the ones who tagged can consider removing for changing the tags. What I am looking right now is you digging a deeper hole instead by sending stupid retaliatory feedback. Who in their normal senses is really going to support you with such feedback?

They may not have tagged you had you provided proof in the form of signing a message from a wallet where your wd was sent to or something like that. If you are going to advocate for a site you have to be ready to show proof due to their reputation here on the forum.

I told him that he can leave any feedback he wants to anyone and that he won't get banned for it or mods remove it so I guess that he is checking it by leaving that nonsense. What he obviously doesn't know is that if he keeps leaving such feedbacks he will end up excluded from trust list, like he just did from mine.

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@MrBrightside1 you might wanna read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate.  Let's start working with it first before anything else.

I am not taking the opposite side, in fact I will want you to get the tag removed but you need to first prove yourself that you deserve it to raise a voice for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new
thats the thread, all evidence is in there (combined with the negative trust and 1xbit thread).
I accuse them of making false accusations, because they have not provided any proof that what they say is real. So therefore they should be gone, maybe then the distrust is also gone, I don't know. The trust is just a part.
Its not because someone is a senior member they know it all, in this case they clearly don't. So please investigate my comments and their comments and look at what proof people provided.


Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof?

I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details.

There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another!

I believe you know there are procedures this platform would follow before anything of that nature you have said could be looked into. At first, these are senior forum members you are talking about for ban which would need you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt which you have none as I can see here. You made a comment about a previous thread but where is the link here, do you think people would believe you by just this mere post without any link to previous thread where you said you have started with such claims  and also, no proof of your point on false accusations by the names as mentioned by you.  I would advise you to let the bygone be bygones. Like as @little mouse has said, that forum does not moderate trust feedback and I think it would be difficult getting them banned for the tag on your account but you can still appeal your tag if you insist.

JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.


If a user continue to use trust feedback to spam a user continuously, moderator will moderate that as it has happened in the past, someone showed me a link like that but I do not see the link again. But we can think that moderators do not moderate trust feedbacks, it is true because they do not interfere with it at all, just that spam exceptional case only was interfered. 

If you are talking about the false accusation/feedback on your profile, for your info, forum doesn't moderate trust feedback. So, don't expect any of them getting banned for tagging you. However, I have seen your other thread and for sure one more thread on the same topic isn't going to bring you any good result.

In regards of my other thread, which ain't completely the same (you can find all the info over there) these people make false accusations and therefore don't belong here or does bitcointalk approve of sending out fake news?