Topic: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (Read 13701 times)

I think this is the same problem that arose last May. My guess is the forum's image proxy has another IP address now. I've asked l suchmoon (who's donated loyce.club's hosting for the past 5 years!) to have a look, I don't have access to that part of the hosting.

Update: images work again.

The images aren't showing! All of them looks dead to me! 

Bump well suited and now reinforced. It's always good for everyone, regardless of how long they've been on the forum and been dealing with the trust list, to reread this topic.



_{@LoyceV the OP's images are broken.}

You may like this post:

You naiIed that post! I love every word in that post and stand behind every word. I love freedom and the  right to express your feelings openly.
But  i was insecure and not myself at the beginning and i took it out on others and that's wrong, now I am back to track.

Thank you Loyce for explaining in a way so it's getting easy to understand,

Best regards
BabyB

I prefer to add Reference links with compelling evidence.

This is a very good guide for new comers to the forum.

I have read the OP. And it answers the most questions. To my wonders..

Positive: You should only leave positive if you think the user would not scam anyone, right? But do you need to add a reference link with some kind of proof? Or is it enough to have a strong feeling?
Is it better if you do a trade with a user and first leave Neutral and when you have done more trades you can update to positive?
 
Neutral:  Other comments??? So neutral you can say what you think and want for example "BabyBandit is a idiot and I hate him" without reference link? That's fine for me because everyone have right too express their opinion.

Negative: If you want to bust a scammer then should it be with reference link with solid proof and not any "maybes"? Because if you gonna accuse someone for being a scammer at least I think you should have solid proof, if you don't have proof but know it's a scammer, maybe its better to start with neutral and when you got proof's change to negative.

And last how important is a reference link? For me if you giving someone negative feedback you must leave a reference link, because if someone come and read it maybe 6 months later he should have a chance to understand why the feedback is there. Without reference link the Feedback don't tell anything at least in my opinion.
But with neutral feedback a reference link is not needed at least how I have understand it.

Also I  have swiped my Trust list and have added the people I trust and distrusted the people I don't think belong in DT in my trust list. Is that something you think is good or bad?

I hope you take my questions serious and don't see me as a "troll" because I am far away from that I just want to learn how things work, my start here was not so good I had a bad attitude against reputable members without any valid reasons, and I will stop act like that and start showing respect.

Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas.

Hello LoyceV,  here's the link of the pidgin translation of your topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/loycevs-beginners-guide-on-how-to-use-the-trust-system-correctly-5475913

No need to ask for permission, that's why I posted this:

Just keep a link to the original topic in your translation.

Note:

Good day I want to inform you that I will like to translate this topic to my local board "naija board" pidgin language, which I checked the translation list and my country is not there. Am seeking your permission.

You're making things up again. Excluding one user out of 100 doesn't mean they exclude "anyone". Besides, there's this:
Thanks for the context. Too much drama for me though.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
[LoyceV's note: I didn't break the "multiple posts in a row"-rule, Ratimov deleted his post in between mine]

It's pretty obvious GazetaBitcoin and 1miau are taking their vendetta against Ratimov out against anyone who "trusts" Ratimov or is trusted by...

https://bpip.org/TrustLog?&trusted=light_warrior&chtype=All



https://loyce.club/trust/2023-09-30_Sat_05.07h/3462000.html

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Sad really (not to mention untrustworthy)

Role model should be the better word to replace them if that is the case.
However to me I feels they are reputable and mostly do love their judges and ways of evaluation..
Thank you for your feedback, I wasn't that fully loaded with trusting information until I was ref to this thread and I think everything is okay with me now.

No, it's up to you. For reference:

Usually, a mentor knows they're a mentor. Maybe you mean role model. Either way, it sounds weird to say about an anonymous forum account.

Hello LoyceV
I created my trust list few days ago.. and I added few users whom I feels they are meant adding to my list and I do love their judgement.
Does it means is wrong for me to do that?
I didn't add them because they gave me positive feedback or I didn't add them because we intiated business dealings but I do add them based on their judgement and, I choose those people to be my mentor.
Hope is nothing wrong to do so?

User hopenotlate is included by yahoo62278, who is included by suchmoon, who is included by you.
That puts suchmoon on your Depth 0, yahoo62278 on your Depth 1 and hopenotlate on your Depth 2. See Trust Depth viewer, I haven't updated it in a while, but it shows the large recursive implications of adding someone to your Trust list.

I suppose I should know the answer to this question, because I have been familiar with the trust system for some time, but I am not entirely clear about it, and the question is why I see hopenotlate's feedback as, apparently, he is not in DT.

I went to leave neutral feedback on a non-collateralized loan on the HedgeFx profile, as he requested, and saw the feedback left by hopenotlate on a previous loan. My first thought was that if hopenotlate is on DT I would let him write the tag on the current loan, but I just checked on bpip.org and he doesn't show up as on DT. I also checked on bpip.org only  two members who are not in DT1 have included him.

So, I am not 100% clear why I see his feedback, because I don't have on my trust list any of the two that have included him.

NP, delete.
Yeah, that's weird for me and you but people are very positive about that feature. Absolutely everything depends on how you inspire people. If you tell people that there is a scientific research that it will grow your hair on bald head if you wash head in Cow's urine, believe me, people will do that without checking the validity of the information. This is why broscience is more popular than actual science
So, people find that feature cool because algorithm automatically chooses posts/topics that are in their interest. People don't have to manually look for them. That's cool, right? But we think that by doing so, they understand more about us, use us for their statistics and provide an information that at some point throws us in an informative vacuum: You only hear what you want to hear.

CYBER_COWBOY got his account tagged and claims to be hacked (which I don't believe). I don't expect any translations from him, so I'll delete the last few posts in this topic next time I bump this topic.

So many people want a commercial algorithm to decide what they read, instead of making their own choices. Weird times.

If anything, Swedish board will be even dead in future. If this forum continues to become dependent on enthusiast users and forum owner won't try to use forum funds to develop new software, new UI, add new features, do some radical changes and so on, then this forum will only lose popularity. There is almost no way to attract young people on this forum after Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok.

I am smart today, braindead2k lol, how could I forgot the quote thing

Most of us understand English yes, but some people maybe don't find this out, and the most people just come and advertise, and if they see something more maybe they want to check in the other things in the forum to.
But yeah you have right, prob not needed.

Congratulations in advance to 24k posts!